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Alex Jones and Joel Skousen--Surviving post America collapse

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Postby zboy1 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:28 am

The whole whiny, insecure, and hypocritically-racist minority role is so cliche and tiresome to deal with, at this point. I can't wait to put thousands of miles between myself, and all of these double-standard having dicks, once and for all.


Well, to be fair, aren't there a lot of White people freaking out that Obama got re-elected because the huge minority vote and are disillusioned as a result? All 'm seeing now when I turn on the T.V., listening on the radio, or reading forums all over the Internet is that the White race is dying off, minorities are racist, or the minorities are taking over the country. It seems kinda insecure and whiny to me? Or am I wrong? All the conservatives and Republicans I see on T.V. like Bill O' Reily moaning about how traditional 'White America' is disappearing--isn't the same kind of defeatist talk that you find tiresome among minorities?

BTW, I'm not trying to start a fight, just trying to initiate a conversation with you Disillusioned.
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Postby FreeYourMind » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:46 am

zboy1 wrote:
The whole whiny, insecure, and hypocritically-racist minority role is so cliche and tiresome to deal with, at this point. I can't wait to put thousands of miles between myself, and all of these double-standard having dicks, once and for all.


Well, to be fair, aren't a lot of White people freaking out that Obama got re-elected because the huge minority vote and are disillusioned as a result? All 'm seeing now when I turn on the T.V., listening on the radio, or reading forums all over the Internet are that the White race is dying off, minorities are racist, or the minorities are taking over the country. It seems kinda insecure and whiny to me? Or am I wrong? All the conservatives and Republicans I see on T.V. like Bill O'Reily moaning about how traditional 'White America' is disappearing is the same kind of defeatist talk that you find tiresome among minorities?

BTW, I'm not trying to start a fight, just trying to initiate a conversation with you Disillusioned.


Why should Whites be happy to see the U.S. and the West become non-White dominated? What election was it that Americans ratified this radical change in demographics? That's right, there was no election, the methodical changing of the racial composition of the country is supported by both Democrats and Republicans and has been underway since the passage of the Immigration Act of 1965 that made immigration 90% non-White, and it's gotten to the point where it's practically been criminalized for a White person to speak honestly about it. Certainly not a single White politician in the United States will speak out in favor of White rights. Average White people have been totally sold out and dispossessed by their so-called "leaders."

Name a Black or an Asian country that has deliberately changed its racial composition in such a manner. It wouldn't be tolerated because it's only White elites (mostly Jews actually) that push the globalist, one world, one people one race agenda. It's only Whites who are slowly but surely being made minorities in their own lands, and further are supposed to welcome it otherwise they're smeared as "racist."
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Postby zboy1 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:01 am

FreeYourMind wrote:
zboy1 wrote:
The whole whiny, insecure, and hypocritically-racist minority role is so cliche and tiresome to deal with, at this point. I can't wait to put thousands of miles between myself, and all of these double-standard having dicks, once and for all.


Well, to be fair, aren't a lot of White people freaking out that Obama got re-elected because the huge minority vote and are disillusioned as a result? All 'm seeing now when I turn on the T.V., listening on the radio, or reading forums all over the Internet are that the White race is dying off, minorities are racist, or the minorities are taking over the country. It seems kinda insecure and whiny to me? Or am I wrong? All the conservatives and Republicans I see on T.V. like Bill O'Reily moaning about how traditional 'White America' is disappearing is the same kind of defeatist talk that you find tiresome among minorities?

BTW, I'm not trying to start a fight, just trying to initiate a conversation with you Disillusioned.


Why should Whites be happy to see the U.S. and the West become non-White dominated? What election was it that Americans ratified this radical change in demographics? That's right, there was no election, the methodical changing of the racial composition of the country is supported by both Democrats and Republicans and has been underway since the passage of the Immigration Act of 1965 that made immigration 90% non-White, and it's gotten to the point where it's practically been criminalized for a White person to speak honestly about it. Certainly not a single White politician in the United States will speak out in favor of White rights. Average White people have been totally sold out and dispossessed by their so-called "leaders."

Name a Black or an Asian country that has deliberately changed its racial composition in such a manner. It wouldn't be tolerated because it's only White elites (mostly Jews actually) that push the globalist, one world, one people one race agenda. It's only Whites who are slowly but surely being made minorities in their own lands, and further are supposed to welcome it otherwise they're smeared as "racist."


I agree with you, FreeYourMind. Why should only White countries accept immigrants and not anyone else? It's totally hypocritical and destructive. I was just pointing out that Disillusioned was complaining about minorities using the race card and complaining, when I found it kinda funny that all over the media and the Internet, Whites were doing the same thing in the U.S. after the election. It was almost hysterical in nature--reading all the blogs, forums, and radio shows and their responses (although for good reasons).
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Postby Disillusioned_American » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:45 am

zboy1 wrote:Well, to be fair, aren't there a lot of White people freaking out that Obama got re-elected because the huge minority vote and are disillusioned as a result? All 'm seeing now when I turn on the T.V., listening on the radio, or reading forums all over the Internet is that the White race is dying off, minorities are racist, or the minorities are taking over the country. It seems kinda insecure and whiny to me? Or am I wrong? All the conservatives and Republicans I see on T.V. like Bill O' Reily moaning about how traditional 'White America' is disappearing--isn't the same kind of defeatist talk that you find tiresome among minorities


Well, I tend to think that all of this whining you are hearing on Faux News and the rest of the controlled media is simply a staged attempt to cushion the blow for disappointed White Americans so that they will somehow accept their fate of being railroaded into submission and then oblivion in the near future. Another reason they are bitching and complaining on the news may be some kind of psy-ops attempt by the media moguls who want to get minorities stirred up against white people after they hear about how broken-spirited we allegedly are over the whole issue (again, divide and conquer tactics of the elite who love to distract us by keeping the races at each others' throats).
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Postby Jester » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:53 pm

lone_yakuza wrote:LMAO. Joel Skousken talks about China and Russia being "evil" killing "millions" and "not minding it."

"Even though western culture does not have it because of its anglo and christian roots"

He then says that the west and "anglos" and "christians" actually "value life."

Is he f***ing kidding me. The "west" and "christianity" do not value life at all and are the greatest perpetrators of mass genocide and death in the world.

The billions killed by western germ warfare from the 1500s until the 1700s, used to massacre all the American Indians, destroying Inca and Maya and sending them all smallpox that the conquistadors perpetrated.

Slavery of Africans, Hispanics/mixed people, and Asians from the 1600s until the late 1800s.

Western Imperialism in the 1800s- mid 1900s, taking over the world, destroying cultures around the world including Eastern Asian culture.

Colonialism, raping, massacres. Persecuting non-whites in AMerica, and even Irish or non-Anglo Saxon whites.

And the persecution of non-whites continues to this day in the private sector despite non-whites being protected by law.

America joins and becomes an imperial power in the late 1800s, taking over the phillipines, bullying China and Japan, helping Britain force opium into China and destroying society even more. Then they take over regions and port cities in China and f**k the country up even more.

Then in the 1900s until present day, they destroy governments and countries, redraw lines to sow chaos, and then install puppet rulers that are pro-west or pro-American.

Who the f**k is the terrorist here? Who are the real "devils"? Who are the ones that are really "mad?"

And they think they are the righteous and good people? These guys are f***ing delusional.

If a NWO means the end of the continuation of western imperialism and white supremacism, I am all for it. Maybe the NWO is what is needed to rebalance the world so that there is NO superpower going around the world and bullying everybody.


Sounds like you should stay put then. The PTB are doing exactly what you want. Stay here and enjoy it.
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Postby Jester » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:59 pm

Disillusioned_American wrote:
...Luckily, I am fairly well travelled, and I realize that outside of this country, there are many places where I am far less likely to encounter angry guys such as yourself, who hate me and hold me accountable for all of the world's flaws just for my being a "white" guy. I bet you would probably just look at me with total contempt if we happened to cross paths somehow (BTW, are you prepared to make the distinction between whether or not I am Irish or Anglo based on site alone? Didn't think so). You probably just wish you could use your tough-guy martial arts expertise to teach us weak, racist honkeys all a lesson, huh? :roll:

The whole whiny, insecure, and hypocritically-racist minority role is so cliche and tiresome to deal with, at this point. I can't wait to put thousands of miles between myself, and all of these double-standard having dicks, once and for all.


I know... I am SO OPEN to intermarrying with whatever race... JUST AS LONG AS I CAN GET AWAY FROM THESE TYPES. Chip on the shoulder, they follow you around insulting you, and what they really crave is... BEING YOU.

Like feminists.
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Postby lone_yakuza » Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:36 am

FreeYourMind wrote:
zboy1 wrote:
The whole whiny, insecure, and hypocritically-racist minority role is so cliche and tiresome to deal with, at this point. I can't wait to put thousands of miles between myself, and all of these double-standard having dicks, once and for all.


Well, to be fair, aren't a lot of White people freaking out that Obama got re-elected because the huge minority vote and are disillusioned as a result? All 'm seeing now when I turn on the T.V., listening on the radio, or reading forums all over the Internet are that the White race is dying off, minorities are racist, or the minorities are taking over the country. It seems kinda insecure and whiny to me? Or am I wrong? All the conservatives and Republicans I see on T.V. like Bill O'Reily moaning about how traditional 'White America' is disappearing is the same kind of defeatist talk that you find tiresome among minorities?

BTW, I'm not trying to start a fight, just trying to initiate a conversation with you Disillusioned.


Why should Whites be happy to see the U.S. and the West become non-White dominated? What election was it that Americans ratified this radical change in demographics? That's right, there was no election, the methodical changing of the racial composition of the country is supported by both Democrats and Republicans and has been underway since the passage of the Immigration Act of 1965 that made immigration 90% non-White, and it's gotten to the point where it's practically been criminalized for a White person to speak honestly about it. Certainly not a single White politician in the United States will speak out in favor of White rights. Average White people have been totally sold out and dispossessed by their so-called "leaders."

Name a Black or an Asian country that has deliberately changed its racial composition in such a manner. It wouldn't be tolerated because it's only White elites (mostly Jews actually) that push the globalist, one world, one people one race agenda. It's only Whites who are slowly but surely being made minorities in their own lands, and further are supposed to welcome it otherwise they're smeared as "racist."



Your whole arguement is that America is a white country. That is false. From the beginning it was NOT a 'white' nation.

Read up America's history. There were many Chinese, Hispanic/mixed-race, and other Asians on America's west coast LONG before white America took over the USA.

The Americas were also home to the Amerindians/Native Americans of many different ethnicities before being wiped out by intentional biological warfare on the part of the Europeans who came here along with conventional warfare by the consquitadors in South America and the Anglo-Saxon colonists in North America.
One example:


""You will do well to try to inoculate the Indians, by means of blankets, as well as to try every other method that can serve to extirpate this execrable race." — Jeffery Amherst[6]"

^ Dowd, Gregory Evans (2004). War under Heaven: Pontiac, the Indian Nations, and the British Empire. New York: The Johns Hopkins University Press.
^ a b c d Ewald, Paul W. (2000). Plague Time: How Stealth Infections Cause Cancer, Heart Disease, and Other Deadly Ailments. New York: Free.



The USA was originally envisioned as a country for all immigrants of all races/colors/creeds.

You can read it on the inscription on the Statue of Liberty.

"Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

But of course, the prejudices of the common, uneducated man would bring about passings of laws such as the many Chinese Exclusion Acts, Japanese Exclusion Act (Gentleman's Act), etc. over the decades (in the 1800s). The Asian population in the USA would be MUCH higher if it were not because of those laws artificially keeping Asian immigrants from coming to the USA.

Also, remember that California, New Mexico, Texas, and much of the SouthWest was the land of Mexico and of hispanics -> mixed raced and many with significant American Indian heritage.

So white Americans in those states trying to kick out Hispanics and Asian immigrants are the ones in the wrong.

Take a look at discrimination against Chinese and Asians in the USA since it's founding.

http://www.zakkeith.com/articles,blogs, ... meline.htm

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Early Chinese Settlers in the Americas
When did the Chinese arrive in America?

*Genetic evidence found in Amerindians’ (maternally inherited) mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) supports the theory of pre-Columbian multiple genetic founding populations migrating from Asia. The evidence suggests the migration was by sea and not via ice-age land routes as previously assumed.


If the accounts of the Chinese Buddhist monk Hui Shen (a.k.a. Huishen, Hoie-schin) who visited a land he called Fusang are anything to go by, then the Chinese traveled along what can only be the West Coast of America, from present-day British Columbia down to Baja California around 450 A.D. If you believe in the theories of Gavin Menzies as put forth in his book, 1421, or Henriette Mertz' Perl Ink (1953), or the findings of Col. Barclay Kennon (who served on the US North Pacific Surveying Expedition in 1871), or Charles Godfrey Leland (1824-1903) or Sinologist Karl Friedrich Neumann (1793-1870), the Chinese have been in the Americas for centuries, perhaps even millennia, and certainly long before the first European settlers arrived. There is genetic evidence to support this.*


According to European records, the Chinese came to the Americas from the onset, alongside some of the first European explorers, traders and settlers:

Between 1541 and 1746: Spanish records show the existence of Chinese shipbuilders in present-day southern California.

In 1565, Chinese sailors arrived in the Americas aboard Spanish ships: A number of Chinese and Filipino crewmen jumped ship after being forced to work as slave labor on the Manila Galleons, transporting cargoes of Chinese luxury goods to Acapulco, Mexico. Some of these Chinese former sailors became small-store owners in Mexico by the 1600s; some allegedly moved north towards modern-day Louisiana; Chinese shopkeepers were already in Los Angeles when the first Anglo-Americans arrived.

1600s: A number of Chinese former sailors establish themselves as small-store owners in present-day Mexico and some begin moving north towards modern-day Louisiana. Chinese shopkeepers are well-established in Los Angeles by the time the first Anglo settlers arrive.

The Manchurian Qing Dynasty comes to power in China after deposing the Ming. Ming loyalists and disfavored classes flee to coastal areas such as the Pearl River Delta in Canton, which becomes a hotbed of anti-Qing activity. In constant fusion with foreign traders for the next 200 years, a new rebellious middle-class of innovative and entrepreneurial merchants (all racketeers as far as the Qing government is concerned) arise. It is from Toishan, in this region, that the majority of Chinese immigrants to America will come.

In 1785, the ship Pallas, skippered by John O'Donnell, left stranded in the city of Baltimore, Maryland, a crew of 32 East Indian lascars (Asians) and 3 Chinese seamen named Ashing, Achun and Aceun.

In 1788, Chinese sailors arrived in Hawaii serving under Captain John Meares onboard the British ship Iphigenia Nubiana, which was engaged in the lucrative black-market fur trade between the northwest coast of America and racketeers/merchants on coastal China. Within years the Chinese former sailors establish sugar plantations in Hawaii and export sandalwood to China. Captain Meares also brought Chinese sailors to worked in Nootka Sound — located on the west coast of Vancouver Island, British Columbia.

While in general the Chinese certainly fared better than Native Americans and African slaves, a grey-zone distinction was made in many American states to class the Chinese tentatively as fellow-immigrants with very limited rights.

The questions that beg to be asked are:
Why were the Chinese—who were arguably just as “entitledâ€￾ as Europeans were to the New World, and who could be argued to have had just as manifest a destiny as the “whites,â€￾ if not more—subjected to such a level of persecution? Does their being part of a minority group explain everything?


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You talk about changing American demographics to "non-white" as some kind of conspiracy when America was never white in the first place (American Indians) and we are all living on stolen land. And then you also ignore the fact that America has passed many Asian Exclusion Acts to ENSURE that America stay's a "white" country despite the fact that there was already a significant Asian presence on the west coast WAAAY before Anglo Saxon Americans even got there.

Don't forget that Anglo Saxon Americans brought African slaves to the US, used American Indian/Amerindian slaves, and also treated Chinese railroad workers and gold miners basically as slaves and cannon fodder to carry TNT and do the most dangerous jobs yet their contributions in building the transcontinental railroad is NEVER mentioned in mainstream US history.

1863: construction of the Central Pacific Railroad begins in Sacramento, California.
1865: The Chinese in California number about 50,000, of which 90% are young men of working age.
1865: In March, the Central Pacific employs 50 Chinese workers to work between Auburn and Clipper Gap, to break a strike by white workers. Initially believing the Chinese to be far too delicate for the tough work, their superintendent refuses to have them, but his superior insists on hiring them with the argument that the race of people who built the Great Wall can surely build a railroad. The Chinese workers, who are paid less, turn out to be far more efficient than their Caucasian colleagues. Leland Stanford temporarily changes his opinion about the Chinese to that of a positive one in order to promote a drive to employ more Chinese workers.

These Asians were here BEFORE most of the Russians and Eastern Europeans who came AFTER 1900, YET the Eastern Europeans and Russians are viewed as MORE American just because they look "white."


Anyways, your entire argument is idiotic because America was supposed to be a multiracial, multicultural country from the VERY BEGINNING.]


If you are arguing about keeping Europe, white, then I am all for that. But America is NOT a white country and NEVER WAS.
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Postby lone_yakuza » Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:03 am

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Postby Jester » Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:07 am

Someone is having quite the hissy-fit.
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Postby lone_yakuza » Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:22 am

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Postby zboy1 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:51 am

lone_yakuza wrote:
Jester wrote:Someone is having quite the hissy-fit.


I'm thinking that you can think of nothing to counter my argument so this is all that you can come up with.

Anyways, I think that most white (anglo saxon/old money) Americans are simply confusing "world re-balance" with people wanting to stomp down white people around the globe.

It's about creating a world where there is no longer one sole superpower like America or former Western European Imperialists going around and bullying people and pushing a white-Western European-supremacist (in this case, though it could be any race/ethnic bloc) agenda. Basically a world where there is no "racial hierarchy" created by artificial means (economic sabatoge, pollution, biological/chemical warfare, cultural propaganda/brainwashing, other underhanded tactics).

Is a world where all races just treat each other as motherf***ing human beings so wrong? Treating each other as equals and not judging based on appearance or culture alone. Is that so bad? Are some of you people so insecure that you cannot live without your privilege or cannot fathom and do not want to see your artificially/Hollywood/PsychOps created prestige diminish?

Whites in Europe have every right to kick out all non-whites. They are after all white countries, so I see nothing wrong with keeping them white. It is the idiotic governments in Europe letting all the immigrants in. Don't look at me and blame me for that. I'm American, aint anywhere near Europe.

America is a different story though. So maybe white (western European/Anglo) Americans should stop bitching and moaning about non-whites increasing in numbers in America, especially when America was originally a non-white land, and the west coast was dominated by Asians/Hispanics long before the Anglo Saxons got there. If they really hate other races so much, why don't they go back to Europe, just like how they LOVE telling Asian guys to "GO BACK TO CHINA" even if we aren't from China and were born and raised here in the states and even if we aren't ethnically Chinese.

All the different races in the US might have slightly different cultures or beliefs, but in the end we all came to America for two ideas -> the idea of a "free land" and a "democratic system" that will ensure "justice and liberty" (although this was clearly false advertising).


Being Asian, I can understand your anger and hostility towards White people lone_yakuza. I've been mistreated by Whites in the past as well. But just as I've met many White racists, I've also encountered many racist Black and Hispanic as well; in fact, when I was growing up, it was the racist Blacks and Hispanic kids that was always messing with me and the other Asian kids in school than the White kids. Anyway, like I mentioned many times before in the forum, the racial situation is fuc*ed up in the United States, and the best thing to do is to leave the country--whether your Black, Asian, White or whatever.
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Postby Jester » Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:03 am

Yeah, you're right. Let's throw down and settle this thing, fo-real.

Drifting!

You represent the Old-School West Koast ChiNeze Boyz, and I'll take the Desert Cowboys.

You bring a Toyota Chaser, and I'll bring a Dodge Charger.

Of course, I'll win -- since your turbocharger will be running on pure "hot air".
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Postby lone_yakuza » Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:39 am

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Postby zboy1 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:10 am

I guess I am lucky in a way that I don't view Asian women in a sexual manner at all and am not interested in Asian girls, or else I would be pretty damn pissed like some other Asian guys about how Asian women are the ultimate race traitors. They marry out at 4-5 times the rate of any other race of girls.

Asian girls -> easy to brainwash, easy to manipulate/easily suggestible, herd mentaliy, materialistic as f**k, not that intelligent, like to spread their legs at the smallest hint of prestige or wealth or status.

It's kind of funny that white guys think that they can insult me by trying to smear it in my face that they have an Asian girlfriend when it is easy as f**k to get an Asian girlfriend, considering all the Hollywood pro-anglo-white-male brainwashing and programming that has gone into the brains of Asian girls around the world.


Ain't that the truth. Many of the Asian male posters on this forum can attest to your comments. There are many threads relating to that very sad subject.
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Postby zboy1 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:25 am

Wow, I didn't realize how much this thread would get off-track and off-topic, LOL. Let's get back on topic, please. Interesting responses though...
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