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Why living in Canada sucks

Discuss culture, living, traveling, relocating, dating or anything related to North America. For those looking to relocate within the US or Canada, discuss your experiences and pros/cons of each domestic region.

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Re: Why living in Canada sucks

Postby Sarx121 » Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:18 pm

I know this post us quite old but I am so surprised at all the negative comments. You guys have it good unlike 95 % of the world. I left Toronto a few months ago but I grew up in South Africa, having lived in Europe too. South Africa has sooo many problems you cannot even begin to imagine how hard it is for the whites to live there. There are so many racial tensions and yes even in the bigger cities you get spoiled white British/ anglo-Saxon people. Anyway I do agree to an extent that I found Canadians very distant - it was a challenge to really break into any existing social groups, at least in Toronto. Having a czech name and South African british accent did not help either. I found the Torontonians very plain and awfully styled, especially the women. They really need to learn proper fashion from the Italians, French and Greeks. I also found that many Canadians are seriously ignorant of other countries that may be better than theirs in many ways. Anyway overall Toronto was exciting for me the first couple of months, but that wore off very quickly. I definitely prefer Montreal - everything from cuisine, fashion shopping, clubbing and people are so much better than Toronto. Toronto is way too over-emphasized on being se great city but in all seriousness its boring ( especially in downtown on the weekends where we were living ). I don't count baseball as anything special and attending the Rogers Cup two times in a row was just do weird, as Canadians tend to sit instead of cheer like most Europeans do. Lastly the men are very strange. I actually was surprised at the lack of good looking men like what you get in France and North Italy.
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Re: Why living in Canada sucks

Postby Sarx121 » Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:51 pm

AlecK967 wrote:Oh Dear, This is troubling. I'm coming to Canada to study engineering soon. I'm 18 years young and socially inept.

I'm a high functioning autistic (IQ 147), I'm awkward and tend to say inappropriate things at times (Much to my regret) I often find myself cross analyzing the words that I blurt out after the fact and usually end up regretting opening my mouth in the first place as my meaning or intent is often misconstrued, I really can't help myself and am afraid of having my life ruined by a vindictive narcissist (people with no semblance of critical thought or pension for abstraction, Idiots who can't see past their own biased noses)

These comments certainly offer fresh perspective on things, No where's perfect though.

I'm Albanian, Ethnically Slavic and from an Islamic cultural background.

I was planning on staying in Canada to work after completing my education, English is my 2nd language but I'm proficient in it as I've been studying in English throughout my education. I have a slight Slavic accent though.

How are minorities treated here ? I'm Ethnically Eastern European so will I experience any discrimination based on my Cultural identity/Religious background ?
How will this effect my employment opportunities ?

I'm planning on going into research and development and Canada seems like my golden ticket as my Native Albania simply doesn't have the resources or institutions necessary for my endeavor. (I've been offered a full ride at a Ivy league institution in Canada)

Is Islamophobia an issue in Canada like it is in the USA ? I don't want people harassing me or insulting my culture for no reason other than to hurt me. I'm especially worried as I'm usually perceived to be a soft target, perhaps this is somewhat based on my calm demeanor which is often mistaken for submissiveness.

I never felt hate in my life Until reading YouTube comments sections, The bigotry I encountered there has recently strengthened my sense of Islamic cultural identity, Watching our countries being systematically destroyed and seeing the West demonize all Muslims based off the actions of a few criminals is somewhat disheartening.

Up until very recently I never felt that we were being persecuted and targeted for a genocide but now I think Western imperialists want to do to us, what they did to the Native Americans.

Libya had the highest GDP in Africa prior to the intervention, Now it's considered a failed state.

Syria was one of the most developed countries in the Middle East, It was a secular democracy with a HDI rivaling Israel's. It was the fastest growing economy in the Middle East. After the USA supported ISIS there, It's now a failed state.

Iran was a secular democracy until USA's illegal operation Ajax that literally toppled a democracy and instated a dictator that pandered to Western interests.

Afghanistan was practically Marxist prior to the USA's intervention, They funded right wing nut jobs to topple the soviet friendly regime (that won the popular vote at the time I might add)

Less than 0.1% of Muslims are terrorists, Compare that to USA, Where over 50% of the population supports torture, War crimes and genocide.

Americans intentionally target civilians in the Middle East already, The numbers speak for themselves, 80% of drone strike victims are civilians, 20% of them are children under the age of 9, Imagine what you would do if you were in their place ?

Yet people have the audacity to blame Muslims or Islam for terrorism, Terrorism is a recent phenomenon, Islam is 1'700 years old. Also Muslim does not equal Arab, I have blonde hair and blue eyes. Most Muslims aren't even Middle Eastern, They're more ethnic Indian Muslims in India than they are Muslims in the Middle East. The Middle east has a population less than 1/2 that of Europe, It breaks my heart seeing what happened to Syria, I am now seriously considering taking political action. I believe that if things continue all Muslim nations should boycott the West and strengthen ties with one another and with useful allies such as China and Russia, We should establish a gold based currency and invest in our own countries, Western backed Traitors like the Gulf states should be overthrown and put on trial in an international court and summarily executed, I believe that all our countries should be secular and focus on our nation's shared interests, Mecca and Medina should be made an Islamic autonomous zone similar to the Vatican in Italy. Arabs have no right to them, They belong to all Islamic peoples from Albania to the Philippines. We should also develop our military infrastructure and develop our own technology and manufactories. Education and equality should be our upmost concern. We should also address the Israel/Palestine issue, Why should a Jewish person without a drop of Middle Eastern blood claim Middle Eastern land ? That's like me claiming Arabia because I'm Culturally Islamic !!!

I'm an atheist but am proud of my people and our cultural heritage. I doubt that I'll ever date a person from a non-Islamic-Slavic background.

Sorry for the rant :\

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated

I know the Greeks aren't fond of the many Albanians there. When I was in Athens, my Greek. Male friends kept on complaining that Albanian men were taking their girls.

Anyway you should be fine in Canada
It's a country with so many different types of people and religions.
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Re: Why living in Canada sucks

Postby Kradmelder » Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:40 pm

I spent a few years in Canada in the 80s while studying.I finished my post graduate degree and was so glad to leave I was on the first plane out. I can't describe the joy I felt when leaving. I couldn't even be bothered waiting for graduation. I have only been back once since in 1992 and vowed never again because it was even worse. I can't imagine what kind of PC multiculti cesspool it is now.

Never mind the horrid weather, the people are cold and boring with no identity. I hated the place. It is a white nation busy genociding itself via third world immigration. In the cities whites are becoming a minority. It is like a modern Soddom and Gommorah building a Tower of Babel with the multitude of languages and cultures all mixed together. If they were a Christian nation they would realise this multiculti babel so angered God he dispersed them, each people to their own nation.

Like, how does it make sense? For a white to immigrate to canada you need a skill in demand, a job, money. Yet non-whites come in with nothing and get hand outs. Europe is no different. In canada there is not even a resistance to this cultural invasion of hordes from the Third World. Every European nation has a nationalist resistance to this multiculti invasion. Not Canada. They are supine and just take it. They even make PC laws to silence anyone that wants to speak out. PC police everywhere making sure you don't say or do anything to offend some liberal weak sister.

They have no identity. Like everyone can visualise different european cultures. Even Americans have a culture, even if it so plastic it amkes you want to puke. But Canada? What do you think off except multiculti PC run amok? I cannot define what canadian culture is, except trying to say they are not like americans and claiming to represent every liberal value that jews have foisted on society. No one even dares speak out for fear of being branded 'racist', 'nazi', 'homophobic', ''chauvinist' 'anti-semitic' or all the usual labels of cultural marxism. yet they claim to have free speech. what a joke. Personally I would rather live as a free white man, live and mix amongst my own culture, and not be forced to integrate.

The Million invaders currently overrunning Europe, they should dump them all in Canada. The PC brainwashed Canadians would not say peep. It may not be such a bad thing if Canada suicides itself and they become a minority in their own nation. No big loss to the white world.

The only people that want to move there are turd worlders because they made their own nations such dung heaps and the west is quite willing to give them free housing and money to come on over and loiter.

The women from there? No thank you. They have too much to say and it their values that emasculated their men and made the place such a liberal dung heap.
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Re: Why living in Canada sucks

Postby Taco » Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:10 am

I think I can safely say, in general, Canadian men are seriously stressed out. You see, Canada is a butt freezing cold, workaholic, sausage fest country. Any guy that thinks Canadian woman are "normal" will be a heavy drinker.

The price of oil dropped 2 years ago which caused the suicide rate to explode after all the oil industry refugees lost their high paying gigs.

Anything good you've heard about Canada is probably a lie. Although, Vancouver does have a fantastic airport.

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Re: Why living in Canada sucks

Postby Slick » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:42 am

Will N. Dowd wrote:Most people owe a huge amount of money, and think this is completely normal. The government is to blame because they regulate the banks and allow people with pathetic jobs to get impossible mortgages and lines of credit, which those people use to buy thing they don't need, with the money they don't have. Although the banking system here is very secure and highly regarded, it is inherently fraudulent and one day will get a wake up call. Most people here owe 50% more than what they have. So for every $1 they have they owe $1.50.

That is the main cause of the financial meltdown in the U.S. back in 2008. Since then, it hasn't improved much. One day, it might happen to Canada and everyone there would be screwed and I bet most won't be prepared.

Many of these anglo-saxon countries like the U.S., Canada, Australia and the U.K. rank the highest of top countries of the world. I don't understand the appeal and how they got placed so high.

One question, do Canadian girls like Asian guys? Sure as hell AW's don't.
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Re: Why living in Canada sucks

Postby frozenass » Sat Dec 24, 2016 10:08 pm

I have been living in Canada for the past 3 years (in Montreal). I am gay and came here originally to study a masters. I have to say that the one thing I don't regret about being in Canada is the fact that I met an amazing guy who also comes from abroad. I hate being here and can't wait to complete my program in order to go back to my country. Everything is coated with fake sweetness and it is suffocating. I would be unfair to say that everyone sucks and that every interaction I have had is negative. I have good sensible friends, but there are many things I don't agree with and that have made me determined to leave as soon as I can. The most important thing being the disgustingly frigid weather followed by their obsession with identity politics.

For many, Canada is a gay paradise: rights everywhere, respect, tolerance, fooling around, and all that jazz. For me it was torture... Not because I miss living in the shadows, but because it seems like I have to live up to the stereotypes Canadians watch on TV and be a fierce activist. My female friends want me to go shopping with them, and it is almost as if everyone was expecting me to colour my hair, like Madonna, have a gym body, and understand every single pop culture reference. I was also expected to sleep around. If I chose not to, I had internalized homophobia and a prude outlook on sexuality. The dating scene: a nightmare. Sex is expected on the first date, and be careful not to say that you dislike the scene; because what's wrong with it? Relationships tend not to last, and people like to play complicated games. Individualism rules, so being on an relationship is more of a title than a real commitment. I have heard friends complaining about their partners wanting to be with them. Why would you be on a relationship with someone you don't want to be with? STI's are rampant in the Canadian gay scene; and I am not talking about HIV. Most of the gay Canadians I know have had an sexually transmitted infection - HPV, gonorrhoea, chlamydia... Way to go! We fight for respect by making a fool of ourselves and validating the stereotypes. In addition, given the extreme political correctness environment, you will never truly know who hates you until you are back stabbed. I am seen as a contradiction as I am conservative and gay.

Canada has a sick social structure. Specially among the younger generations (< 35 years old) This was nurtured by the government behaving more like a bad, permissive parent, instead of as an authority. Most people act like spoiled brats. Second generation immigrants act just as spoiled as any other white Canadian. This sector of the population is particularly pathological, as they have a love-hate relationship with their parents. They resent them because they have rules and limits at home, while their friends run wild and sleep with every single living being since they are 14 while they fry their neurons with weed. Drug and alcohol abuse is common and out in the open. Everyone wants to lecture you about how healthy it is to be a pot head. Is this why people tend to be slow and inefficient? You can be jailed for giving your child a corrective spankspirine, but I have seen children slapping their mothers. At schools and even in universities, accommodation has become something ridiculous. I am all for giving students with disabilities the chance of studying, but this has escalated to the point in which a blind student received so much accommodation that she became a medical doctor. The lady in question then went to California to do a fellowship and was rejected. This person then proceeded to sue her home university for giving her false hopes (if she won or not, is irrelevant). Reasonable accommodation also implies that if you are a crying baby that needs to get straight As in your exams and suffer of anxiety, all you need to do is talk to the office of student disabilities, get a doctor's note stating that you have anxiety, and you will be able to have special arrangements for your exam.

Try getting something done in less than an hour; be it hiring a new internet connection, seeing a doctor, or applying for a passport. Everything is covered in red tape and useless back and forth, so if you need to fill a prescription of omeprazol because you have reflux, you can expect to spend the whole day at the walk-in clinic. Ironically, you can have access to marihuana, and even some harder drugs in less time. Everything requires certification and special permissions from the government (except doing drugs). You want to be a travel agent? You need to sit an exam. In university, you need to take special courses on the dangers of lab work. They do not even teach you how to handle the chemicals, they just state the obvious: some can burn your skin, some are toxic, some explode.

The country's economy is fuelled by immigration, but make no mistake, you will have to pay a kidney in order to have your credentials validated, otherwise, you are not eligible to work here. Once you paid around 3000 bucks (maybe more than this if you want to become a medical doctor in Canada), you will enter a ruthless job market in which you will face the hypocrisy of Canadian diversity - "We are sorry, but we are looking for someone with Canadian experience." As if every other country was Mars. I once went to a job interview at a research site; I was competing for a job where I needed to take 24-hour food recalls. Something I had done extensively in my home country. I am fluent in French and English, but one of the persons who interviewed me was weary of me because I might not be familiar with the Canadian food choices (poutine?, cretons? anything that a google search won't solve?). My partner has a Canadian masters degree, he was born in Canada but grew up elsewhere. After 6 months of job hunting and a couple of unsuccessful job interviews at mediocre places, he landed another mediocre job at a call centre. Other qualified friends do unpaid internships, and finance their lives as waiters or uber drivers. There are simply no jobs unless you have juicy connections. This is why everyone will hate you if you make the big bucks or even if your parents help you. The school system is horrible. Nobody really learns anything, and every student is obsessed with getting As. I used to be a teaching assistant, and got grilled by several self-entitled students for giving them an A- after I had been a generous marker. Assignments are purposeless and involve doing useless critiques about the work of someone else... I guess this is true for all millenials: narcissistic and with a "whatever you do I can do better" attitude. I would like to see how the students and the teachers would do the same job they are critiquing. When professors demand work from the students, the students bully the professors and make rants. Students also stab each others backs and go on power trips whenever they can: teaching assistants' marking is ridiculously stringent. I guess that's what happens when you are a resented geek from highschool.

Family life is non-existent. Listen to how the Britney wannabes talk to their mothers on the phone. Go to a hospital and see the amount of elderly patients spending nights alone and the amount of people coming on their own to the ER. If you are lucky to have the support of your parents, you will be looked down on. You are expected to move out from your parents' home as soon as you are about to go to college. White girls won't like you if you receive financial support from your parents; not that you are dying to be liked by shaved or greasy haired, tattooed, gap hoody wearing, polyamorous and stinky feminazis. "Warrior" single mothers are everywhere bragging about how much they work to support her 4 children from 3 different fathers. They do receive alimony from the 3, though. Teenage pregnancies are common, and having an abortion is easier than getting seen by an oncologist if you have cancer. This ridiculous mindset can be exemplified in the fact that one day I saw a bunch of med students getting a petition signed so that they are taught to perform abortions. One of the advocates was saying that she was looking forward to learning how to do this, and that they made it a reserved act of OB/GYNs. (Of all the things you could be excited about when in medschool).

The last nail in the coffin has to be identity politics. Everyone, especially the younger generations, are so full of shit, as if they had all read the same "becoming a do-gooder for dummies" manual. Social Justice Warriors are waiting in every corner, policing what you say. They feel so guilty about having oppressed the aboriginals, that now they take shit from everyone as long as they are not white, gay, or female. If you are a muslim, you are in for special treatment, else, you must be an atheist. It is not cool otherwise... that is what they were taught in school: muslims = victims, other religions = archaic institutions. They know they are so similar to the Americans, that they want to differ in what they perceive is America's worst defect: racism. This is further fed by the liberal governments, which use identity to suit their political agendas. The climax of identity politics is electing a useless PM (better than Trump, of course) who only knows how to take selfies with oppressed minorities and cry in front of the cameras when talking about the refugees. This obsession has gone as far as people ADORING being victims. Everyone will tell you excitedly about this one health problem they have and how much it affects their lives. When there is no problem, they will become vegan/vegetarian/gluten free/sugar free or any other fad dieting (I have also heard people saying they are allergic to ridiculous stuff like pizza), and will force feed you with their dietary beliefs and will expect (and demand) to be accommodated, so if you are organizing a dinner, your gluten free friend will not bring his own food, instead he will text you asking for a gluten free option... FU if you don't know what that entails. The vegan won't ask you for an option, instead, he will demand you to have a vegan menu for everyone. Good luck doing the opposite when the vegan invites you.

Passive aggressiveness and two-faced attitudes are rampant in Canadian culture: everyone is so anxious about having negative thoughts, that they do reaction formation and go to the opposite. When something goes wrong, they will tell you that everything is great with a nervous smile, and then they will either start gossip, talk behind your back, rat you out, or silently giving you negative evaluations. They master the act of psychotically avoiding conflict. Conflict is sometimes necessary to set healthy boundaries and solve problems. Forget about this while in Canada. If you e-mail your boss to get feedback about a negative evaluation, your e-mail will go unanswered. Discussing negative outcomes is avoided and when absolutely necessary, it will be coloured with fake praise, awkwardness, and dissociative psychosis, i.e., "you are a great element and we love you, but we need to let you go."

I could write pages and pages about why I am not happy in Canada. Maybe it is my experience in a university plagued with spoiled social justice warriors, but I really really hope to leave soon and never be back. I feel quite guilty about having this opinions as I have also found great people here, but I am so tired of this bullshit.
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Re: Why living in Canada sucks

Postby Kradmelder » Sun Dec 25, 2016 4:51 am

Frozen Ness, except for the faggotry, I 100 % agree with you and know that feeling of wanting to get the fark out as quick as possible. The society is so isolating and so totally everything I despise that I chose to recluse myself from that tame house cat existence. I made friends with people I normally would not be friends with: a darkie from Kenya and a Chinaman from mainland China. Both students like me and both wanting to leave asap. I probably would have been friends with you as well.

I know the social justice warrior types there. The place was full of anti-apartheid demonstrations then, wtf do they know about it? They would run in terror if they ever had to take a drive through a black Township. You can imagine their look of disgust when I refused to sign their bs petitions and said I am going back there as soon as I can and I fully support my nation. One woman said to me I wish you die there. Wtf. All that hate. Meanwhile I'm thinking my soul is already dying here.

Happy christmas and hang in there. See it as prison and your sentence will end soon.
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Re: Why living in Canada sucks

Postby gsjackson » Sun Dec 25, 2016 5:45 am

[quote="Kradmelder"]? They would run in terror if they ever had to take a drive through a black Township. [quote]

Puts me in mind of some SJW friends from Denmark who came to visit me when I was in New Orleans. They wanted to see some authentic poverty representative of what Europeans (justifiably) refer to as "the United States of Inequality," so I took them around to one of the hard core projects. Man, did those car windows go up fast.
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Re: Why living in Canada sucks

Postby Kradmelder » Sun Dec 25, 2016 5:55 am

gsjackson wrote:
Kradmelder wrote:? They would run in terror if they ever had to take a drive through a black Township.

Puts me in mind of some SJW friends from Denmark who came to visit me when I was in New Orleans. They wanted to see some authentic poverty representative of what Europeans (justifiably) refer to as "the United States of Inequality," so I took them around to one of the hard core projects. Man, did those car windows go up fast.

LOL ja. Those liberals are hypocrites. There is a saying in SA what is the difference between a tourist and a racist? About 2 weeks.

That is how long it takes them to see reality and become racist :lol:
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