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Re: Are Utah Mormon girls a good option?

Post by MrMan » December 28th, 2017, 5:08 pm

Jehovah's Witnesses' beliefs are somewhat similar to Christian beliefs, except they do not believe in the deity of Christ. They also do not believe in Hell. They have some strange beliefs about the end times which they emphasize a lot. The 144,000 Jews in Revelation were supposed to be their group. But they grew to more than 144,000, so they said some of them would make it into that number. It doesn't make sense that they would be the 144,000 from reading the passage anyway. Jehovah's Witnesses are against saying the pledge of allegiance, getting blood transfusions, and celebrating Christmas or birthdays. They also may encourage people to cut contact with relatives outside of the organization, and they may shun people for odd reasons.

Mormons have much stranger beliefs in a lot of ways. They were started by a man named Joseph Smith who lived in the 1800's. He used to try to find treasure on people's property using divination stones or something along those lines. He supposedly found some gold plates. He never showed them to anyone except when they were wrapped in cloth. Then, he put a 'seer stone' in a hat, the story goes, and saw the translation to the plates which had writing on them in 'Reformed Egyptian.' From this, he translated the Book of Mormon, which tells of Israelites who settled in the new world before the white people got here. Some of them were 'white and delightsome' and were killed off by the Lamanites, who were cursed with dark skin. I suppose these were supposed to be the Indian tribes.

There are other Mormon beliefs that are kind of weird, too, like the idea that their Jesus and Lucifer and the rest of humanity were supposed to be spirit children and that their Jesus and Lucifer offered competing plans to be the savior of the world, and that when Lucifer lost, he rebelled. Those who joined his side were said to become demons. Those who joined their Jesus were supposed to have been born white, while those who were neutral, they say, were born black. They also say that their god is from or from near a star or planet named Kolob. Battle Star Galactica's planet Kobol is based on this name.

Smith claimed he got a revelation in favor of polygamy, and that an angel threatened him with a flaming sword to follow that revelation. Smith's flaming sword problem got him in a lot of trouble. He would 'spiritually' 'marry women', some of them single, some of them married. He had at least one young teenage girl. In one of his books, he has these prophecies demanding his wife forgive him. One book says it was wrong for David and/or Solomon to be polygamous, and a later book says it was not. There were more books in their canon than the book of Mormon. Before he died, for some reason a mob had him tied up for some infraction (I'm guessing related to his flaming sword issue), and tried to convince his doctor friend to castrate him. He got out of it, somehow.

A newspaper there in the town he'd fled to with lots of Mormons after being persecuted in Ohio printed some bad things about him after the near castration incident. He declared martial law and shut down the papers. The territory he was in charged him with a crime. After they got him into custody, I think, they changed the charge to a death penalty treason charge. He was kept under arrest in a certain house that was being used as a prison. But some of his friends or relations got him a pistol. He and certain others died in a shootout with a mob that gathered outside. Some Mormons leave the part out about the gun in his hand, and make him into a martyr.

He had allegedly prophesied that his son Joseph Smith would lead the church, but his son was quite small. The larger group went with one of the church leaders Brigham Young, and another faction of Mormons followed his son. Brigham Young went out to Utah. I've read Young claimed other men as his wives if they had been 'spiritually married' to Joseph Smith. He'd keep the wife and send the husband away on a mission. Brigham Young had lots of wives. During Young's time, some settlers on their way to Oregon were attacked by some Indians, then the white Mormons came and killed off the men.

The main group of Mormons were officially polygamous until just before the turn of the 20th century when the Congress required that they be nonpolygamous to be a state. So officially they opposed polygamy, though it apparently took a while for them not to be polygamous. Splinter groups formed around polygamy, and some of these groups have gotten media attention in recent decades.

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Re: Are Utah Mormon girls a good option?

Post by Adama » December 29th, 2017, 3:25 am

Maverick wrote:
December 25th, 2017, 8:51 pm
I spent about a year as a Mormon. I attended church regularly and made friends there. I dated there. I just wanted to see what this was like.

Ultimately, as discussed above, I found that the women are no better (and sometimes actually worse) than the typical AW.

So I don't go to church anymore. Haven't been in a few months now.
There is a book on sociopathy written by a woman who describes herself as a sociopath. Her name is M. E. Thomas. It is on Amazon. She claims to be a Mormon and she describes how she treats people in that book. People to her are tools to be used. They go into one of two categories: don't hurt them, and play with them. She has different names for the categories though. Basically if they are family, she won't try to mess with them. But as for almost anyone else, she works mischief against them for her personal pleasure.

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