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Back in Saudi

Post by ladislav » February 2nd, 2015, 1:30 pm

I am back in Saudi Arabia after a 5.5 year break. Compared different jobs in the US and again the Saudi package wins hands down.

I am in Dammam now. Just as you get here, the wealth of the place, the general prosperity strikes you immediately. The quality of the roads, the houses, the shiny malls, and the smiling people all make you feel good.

It's a happy society by and large and it rubs off on you.

This is what it looks like:



Note the quality of the houses. Thick stone, very sturdy.



Not all is well, though. There have been attacks on Westerners so you have to be careful. Anyway, my plan is to stay one year inshallah.
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Re: Back in Saudi

Post by E Irizarry R&B Singer » February 2nd, 2015, 3:12 pm

I wish you luck. I'm glad to know that you're back there.
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Re: Back in Saudi

Post by Moretorque » February 2nd, 2015, 9:08 pm

Thanks for the info.
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Re: Back in Saudi

Post by Hero » February 3rd, 2015, 1:10 am

What did you do with your house in Akron?

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Re: Back in Saudi

Post by ladislav » February 3rd, 2015, 12:21 pm

If you guys need money and want to experience an Arab equivalent of Palm Springs and Newport Beach, then this place is for you. I always enjoy its total silence, its great service and most superb infrastructure.

As far as my house is Akron, I am renting downstairs and now looking for a tenant for upstairs, too.
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Re: Back in Saudi

Post by Hero » February 3rd, 2015, 2:14 pm

ladislav wrote:If you guys need money and want to experience an Arab equivalent of Palm Springs and Newport Beach, then this place is for you. I always enjoy its total silence, its great service and most superb infrastructure.
What credentials do you need? If I got an Oxford certification but had no experience, could I get a job there?

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Re: Back in Saudi

Post by Jester » February 4th, 2015, 8:43 am

Congratulations, Lad!!

PS I would love to see any video or pics of what the inside of an expat compound is like.

Clothes drying over the bathtub?
Or luxury apartments?
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Re: Back in Saudi

Post by Cornfed » February 4th, 2015, 9:04 am

But for those of us with puny qualifications, will they hire us?

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Re: Back in Saudi

Post by ladislav » February 4th, 2015, 11:33 am

People with an unrelated 4 year degree who want to teach in Saudi may take this route.

They get a CELTA certificate and do a year in China, Korea, Japan. Some do it concurrently, some do it before or after, etc.
Then, they get a low end job in Oman- do a year.

Now, you are ready to apply in Saudi.

Takes 2 years.

Some people are lucky to get a job in Saudi right away. Some- after 2 years of teaching elsewhere. Some do it after 1 year. It depends.

There may be jobs in Saudi in your profession so you don't need to be an ESL teacher. There were jobs for HVAC instructors some time ago. Start visiting expat boards.

Clothes drying over the bathtub?
My a##!

Free laundry. You can also hire a houseboy and pay him $10 to clean and iron everything on a weekend. Ever damn thing! Your apartment will sparkle, your clothes will be pressed and clean.
Or luxury apartments?
F***ing aye, dude!


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Life on a compound looks like in one of those 55+ gated communities in AZ, CA, NM. These are some views:

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English teachers may be housed in apartment buildings, though. These usually look like this:

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I am in this one but can walk to the bigger compound:

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This is a restaurant at the compound:

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This is a bowling alley:

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Some stay in apartment buildings but get access to the compound nearby and can just walk there.

So, it's not bad at all.

Remember that it's all free. Every f**king thing is free. Except the food. No rents ( no deposits) or utilities need to be paid, no furniture/utensils/beddings need to be bought. Cable and Wi FI are complimentary. Gym is free. Transportation to work is free. Vacation tickets are paid by the company.
No taxes. Yeah, read my lips! No taxes.
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Re: Back in Saudi

Post by Hero » February 4th, 2015, 12:36 pm

ladislav wrote: They get a CELTA certificate and do a year in China, Korea, Japan. Some do it concurrently, some do it before or after, etc.

No taxes. Yeah, read my lips! No taxes.
It has to be CELTA?

Don't you still have to pay U.S. taxes?

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Re: Back in Saudi

Post by Jester » February 5th, 2015, 2:42 am

Hero wrote:
Don't you still have to pay U.S. taxes?
Not unless you're self-employed.

But if the job is on the books, as Lad's clearly is, you're NOT self-employed.
Very peachy indeed.
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Re: Back in Saudi

Post by Jester » February 5th, 2015, 2:43 am

Great photos, Ladislav, thanks.

I really had no idea!

Are those interior shots from your apartment?
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Re: Back in Saudi

Post by Cornfed » February 5th, 2015, 6:08 am

ladislav wrote:People with an unrelated 4 year degree who want to teach in Saudi may take this route.

They get a CELTA certificate and do a year in China, Korea, Japan. Some do it concurrently, some do it before or after, etc.
Then, they get a low end job in Oman- do a year.

Now, you are ready to apply in Saudi.
I'll look into teaching in Oman. What do they require as verification of your experience?

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Re: Back in Saudi

Post by ladislav » February 6th, 2015, 1:35 pm

Those are just Google image shots from other expat apartments. Mine looks very similar. You don't pay taxes if the income is under 90K something. Most people who work in Saudi save at least 20K a year. As far as Whether it has be be CELTA or not is open to disputes. I would go with CELTA as the safest route. In Oman, they didn't verify my experience. I don't think it is required for the visa. They may or may not spot check but what people normally do is they get letters of reference and numbers/emails of people to contact. Like any place else.
For all of you who have military experience, you should google "jobs in the Middle East for ex military".
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Re: Back in Saudi

Post by abcdavid01 » February 6th, 2015, 4:29 pm

Wow, that's pretty cool. My job has me meeting with people from all over the world. Met a guy from Saudi the other day, most polite customer I've had yet. I'll store this in the back of my head as an idea.
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