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I just completed a 7 day water fast

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Re: I just completed a 7 day water fast

Post by starchild5 » April 13th, 2017, 3:38 am

Winston wrote:What do you all think of this lemon juice fast? An expat friend of mine recommended it to me. It consists of drinking concoctions of lemon juice, maple syrup, and cayenne pepper. And a daily flush using it unionized sea salt too. I dont know why though. Hows this better than water fasting?

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First of all...You SHOULD NEVER JUICE ANYTHING...

I have read 1000s of articles on ancient Indian ayurveda, met Ayurvedic Doctors and the One thing they always tell me is to NEVER JUICE anything...It removes all the fibres from fruits, food which are very much needed in your body to act with the Juice you are having.

Juicing is a Jewish billion dollar business, to prolong the life of food in their super markets.

Only a JEW could come up with JEWcing...Diabolical, Satanic beyond belief...Who was the first guy ever who concieved the Diabolical Idea that...ohhh..lets just drink the Juice away and throw rest of it :shock: :shock:

Lemon is VERY GOOD but you need to make a Pickle of Lemon and eat whole Lemon itself....

Lemon Juice is fine but not the best...Stay away from this Juice Business...

Apple Juice is BAD..Whole Apple is VERY GOOD

Orange Juice of Multi Billion Corporations is VERY BAD....Orange is Good.

Grape juice is Bad...Grape is Good.

Just Eat the whole damn thing....Common People...Its Common Sense Even...It immediately should make sense in your brain without any scientific proof...eating whole food should be better than juicing it out

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Re: I just completed a 7 day water fast

Post by Winston » April 13th, 2017, 10:05 am

But starchild,
There are two kinds of juicing. One is like you said, it removes liquid from the fruit or vegetable. The other is more powerful and involves an expensive juicer machine that will grind the WHOLE fruit or vegetable, including the skin where most of the nutrients are, into liquid form. And yes that includes the pulp and fiber as well.

The latter is supposed to be the better option. And i think most guys here are referring to that. Havent you seen the Juice Man infomercials with that 90 year old passionate man who is selling them? He claims it does wonders. You can get a comparable version of it in the retail store today for around 100 dollars. They even have it at Walmart and Target now.

By drinking your food in liquid form, it puts less work on your digestive system so your immune system can get to work cleaning out toxins in your body, so the theory goes. Doesnt that make sense? Some people claim they get a lot healthier when they do this.
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Re: I just completed a 7 day water fast

Post by MrMan » April 13th, 2017, 10:47 am

Winston,

If fiber is good for you, it doesn't make sense that drinking juice instead of eating the whole fruit will help you. We need the lower parts of our digestive systems to function, too. The non-fiber juice is the part that has the sugars in them.

I've also heard the argument that if you drink juice, the vitamins get into your system faster. Who cares? Does it matter if the vitamins get there in 2 minutes or 10 minutes? Most of us aren't going to die from scurvy or rickets in 10 minutes.

I saw a video debunking 'detox.' I hear it takes about 7 years for the cells in your body to replace themselves. The idea that you can drink a bunch of juiced broccoli and wheat grass, or whatever, and clean all the fat, margarine tar and nicotine out of your system in a weak is silly. It's healthy to eat vegetables, but a weak of a good diet, or too much of a good thing, isn't going to replace all the junk in our cells. Maybe we can clean out our colon or something simple like that with a certain diet.

There is a bunch of bunk health advice on TV.

Our teeth are a natural tool for chewing food. I don't think it's any healthier to blend a whole fruit at drink it than it is to just eat it. Our digestive systems usually do a pretty good job if we are healthy. It does make sense to have a juicer for convenience or taste. If you like orange mango juice, or orange, pineapple, and strawberry all together or whatever, a juicer is good for that. It's also a way of sneaking some spinach into a little kid's diet mixed in with some fruit juice.

There is an Indonesian fruit that translates as 'dutch eggplant' which is kind of like a sour passion fruit. It's edible but doesn't taste good at all if you eat it. But if you blend it with some sugar and cream, it's really good. Some of the Indonesian passion fruit varieties aren't good unless you mix them with some sugar, and a blender is good for that. Guava makes a really good juice, too, and you can strain the seeds. But this is good for enjoyment and actually getting yourself to eat the fruit (seeds in guava can be a hassle). If you've got a maid who makes guava juice in a blender and strains the seeds, it's better than just eating guava straight. (Having a maid isn't that uncommon in Indonesia.)

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Re: I just completed a 7 day water fast

Post by starchild5 » April 14th, 2017, 4:33 am

Winston wrote:But starchild,
There are two kinds of juicing. One is like you said, it removes liquid from the fruit or vegetable. The other is more powerful and involves an expensive juicer machine that will grind the WHOLE fruit or vegetable, including the skin where most of the nutrients are, into liquid form. And yes that includes the pulp and fiber as well.

The latter is supposed to be the better option. And i think most guys here are referring to that. Havent you seen the Juice Man infomercials with that 90 year old passionate man who is selling them? He claims it does wonders. You can get a comparable version of it in the retail store today for around 100 dollars. They even have it at Walmart and Target now.

By drinking your food in liquid form, it puts less work on your digestive system so your immune system can get to work cleaning out toxins in your body, so the theory goes. Doesnt that make sense? Some people claim they get a lot healthier when they do this.
Yes. That is fine...I was only saying about just taking the Juice...if you can juice out the whole thing......It should be good.

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Re: I just completed a 7 day water fast

Post by Cornfed » January 10th, 2018, 8:27 am

I'm nearing the end of my fourth day on a water fast and hunger pains aren't too bad although I'm feeling a bit lightheaded. It is indeed boring. It seems that food and alcohol do break the monotony. Does anyone have any experience with prolonged fasts? It would be good to starve right down to a super lean weight, which in my case I imagine would take about a month.

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Re: I just completed a 7 day water fast

Post by gsjackson » January 10th, 2018, 10:43 am

Cornfed wrote:
January 10th, 2018, 8:27 am
I'm nearing the end of my fourth day on a water fast and hunger pains aren't too bad although I'm feeling a bit lightheaded. It is indeed boring. It seems that food and alcohol do break the monotony. Does anyone have any experience with prolonged fasts? It would be good to starve right down to a super lean weight, which in my case I imagine would take about a month.
What happened to the lift every day phase of a few years back?

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Re: I just completed a 7 day water fast

Post by Cornfed » January 10th, 2018, 11:20 am

gsjackson wrote:
January 10th, 2018, 10:43 am
Cornfed wrote:
January 10th, 2018, 8:27 am
I'm nearing the end of my fourth day on a water fast and hunger pains aren't too bad although I'm feeling a bit lightheaded. It is indeed boring. It seems that food and alcohol do break the monotony. Does anyone have any experience with prolonged fasts? It would be good to starve right down to a super lean weight, which in my case I imagine would take about a month.
What happened to the lift every day phase of a few years back?
I suffered injuries, probably not because of the lifting but just bad luck.

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Re: I just completed a 7 day water fast

Post by gsjackson » January 10th, 2018, 10:37 pm

Cornfed wrote:
January 10th, 2018, 11:20 am
gsjackson wrote:
January 10th, 2018, 10:43 am
Cornfed wrote:
January 10th, 2018, 8:27 am
I'm nearing the end of my fourth day on a water fast and hunger pains aren't too bad although I'm feeling a bit lightheaded. It is indeed boring. It seems that food and alcohol do break the monotony. Does anyone have any experience with prolonged fasts? It would be good to starve right down to a super lean weight, which in my case I imagine would take about a month.
What happened to the lift every day phase of a few years back?
I suffered injuries, probably not because of the lifting but just bad luck.
Zounds, man, there must be different types of resistance training, including lifting, and different angles at which the muscles can be hit, that the injuries will allow. I've been working around sports injuries for 45 years. Think of your image and how you want to present in the world. You're the Corndog -- hell-for-leather, take-no-prisoners, unrepentant, kick-ass MFer. Do you really want to starve yourself down to a little wisp of a thing?

When you wrote about the lift-every-day routine I did it for a while, but with the heaviest weights I could move through a range of motion of only about 3-4 inches. Couldn't see doing it every day with a normal range of motion. Had some remarkable results very quickly in size and strength, but eventually it seemed to be straining my wrists too much.

Avoiding injury really becomes the name of the game as you get older. I recommend the forum on a site called transformetrics, which focuses on isometrics and other "physical culture" approaches from the days before the financially lucrative business of weightlifting pushed everything else out. The 65 year old who runs the site, John Peterson, is as fit and jacked as anyone, and I do mean anyone.
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Re: I just completed a 7 day water fast

Post by fschmidt » January 10th, 2018, 11:30 pm

Cornfed wrote:
January 10th, 2018, 8:27 am
I'm nearing the end of my fourth day on a water fast and hunger pains aren't too bad although I'm feeling a bit lightheaded. It is indeed boring. It seems that food and alcohol do break the monotony. Does anyone have any experience with prolonged fasts? It would be good to starve right down to a super lean weight, which in my case I imagine would take about a month.
I fast a few days each week. I have fasted up to 6 days. To make it less boring, I suggest seltzer, coffee, and various teas. I also exercise while fasting which breaks boredom.

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Re: I just completed a 7 day water fast

Post by Cornfed » January 12th, 2018, 10:59 pm

I'm at almost a week and feeling OK. I'm leaning up in the face and upper belly, but of course the belly fat is always the last to go. Another week should make a big dent. Does anyone have experience with longer fasts?

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Re: I just completed a 7 day water fast

Post by Cornfed » January 14th, 2018, 7:53 am

I broke my fast after 8 days after losing all extraneous fat everywhere by the belly, which though unfortunate was not unexpected. Becoming perfectly athletic in one go is a bit much when your body is not adjusted to fasting. I will go on a low carb diet for a while and then finish the job.

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Re: I just completed a 7 day water fast

Post by Moretorque » February 14th, 2018, 12:13 am

Corny get back in the gym and work on that 135 pound press, listen to your body and do not over do it so you will not get injured....
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Re: I just completed a 7 day water fast

Post by Cornfed » February 14th, 2018, 2:42 am

Moretorque wrote:
February 14th, 2018, 12:13 am
Corny get back in the gym and work on that 135 pound press, listen to your body and do not over do it so you will not get injured....
You know in the context you keep quoting, I was talking about overhead press, not bench press, right? And 10 reps of good overhead (military) reps @ 135 lps is not too shabby. Most normal men can't do that. To be honest, my bench press was never that great either, but obviously a lot better than that.

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Re: I just completed a 7 day water fast

Post by gsjackson » February 14th, 2018, 3:50 am

Cornfed wrote:
February 14th, 2018, 2:42 am
Moretorque wrote:
February 14th, 2018, 12:13 am
Corny get back in the gym and work on that 135 pound press, listen to your body and do not over do it so you will not get injured....
You know in the context you keep quoting, I was talking about overhead press, not bench press, right? And 10 reps of good overhead (military) reps @ 135 lps is not too shabby. Most normal men can't do that. To be honest, my bench press was never that great either, but obviously a lot better than that.
10 reps at 135 for the military press is quite good. All these people who threaten the Corndog with life and limb maybe don't want any part of him in non-virtual life.

Careful with those militaries and the back, though. Moretorque is actually right.

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Re: I just completed a 7 day water fast

Post by Cornfed » February 14th, 2018, 4:16 am

gsjackson wrote:
February 14th, 2018, 3:50 am
Careful with those militaries and the back, though. Moretorque is actually right.
Possibly a bit late for that advice. Also too long hunched over the computer screen. An accident waiting to happen that I will be paying for for goodness knows how long. :(

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