I would argue the opposite is going on. Eating meat has a much higher correlation to raising your estrogen than eating plants. Besides that meat and eggs naturally contain estrogen from the animal itself, in the form of estradiol, the same main estrogen in humans, it's injected into meat as a growth hormone. Most cows today have estradiol mixed with trenbolone (an androgen, like testosterone) to accelerate their growth. Besides this, many people are concerned about the phytoestrogen content of soy, however, most soy is used for animal feed, and most for that purpose is GMO at that. The soy animal feed arguably can cause excess estrogen build up in the meat, too, without directly applying hormones as used for beef. This is of course neverminding the fact again, that animals contain estradiol that's identical to human estradiol.Winston wrote:I think I know why the establishment is encouraging vegetarianism. It's because not eating meat lowers testosterone and raises estrogen. Their agenda is to feminize men and masculinize women. They do this because they want America to be androgynous society where there is no distinction between men and women. It's really sick. But that might be why they would be pro-vegetarianism.MrPeabody wrote:I can't recommend a diet because I'm not a vegetarian. They do seem to have pull and the fanaticism needed to expand their beliefs. After all, they convinced Clinton to become a vegan.Winston wrote:MrPeabody,
Yeah but why is the establishment promoting vegetarianism? Aren't there lobbyists from the meat industry paying off Congressmen and Senators?
Is the mainstream media promoting vegetarianism too? I don't notice that they are.
Most of the health experts I read said that you can be healthy eating meat as long as you eat organic meat from grass fed cows on the free range, and not processed meat from factory farms.
What if I keep my vegetarian diet but stop eating grains and wheat? Would that solve the weight problem?
Also, vegetarianism and animal rights is popular with liberals, and in America you are not allowed to be anti-liberal. So they've had to go along with it to appease them.
And as far as the "cholesterol turns into testosterone" myth, again, that's not particularly true either, it has the same problem DHEA (the precursor steroid your body uses to make other steroids, one step up from cholesterol, the precursor of all hormones) supplementation in men has, after a certain level it starts turning into estrogen with no more gains in testosterone. In women, though, DHEA does the opposite, it turns to testosterone. We're eating more meat than we ever ever have in the past, as the government subsidizes meat pricing and has regulations in place allowing hormones to be used to make feeding and growing meat cheaper. So under these circumstances, emasculated men and masculinized women are much more common, as exogenous hormones added to meat end up in our bodies, and we have way too many hormonal precursors (cholesterol and saturated fat) in our bodies.
Nowadays I would argue "the establishment" is actually pushing against a vegetarian diet. Everyone is concerned about how much protein they need even if they only sit on the couch and do nothing all day. You have mainstream newspapers espousing low carb diets, saturated fat, eating paleo, etc. I would argue even that grain growers would want more people eating more meat, as if they eat more meat, they make more money as large majority of grain produced is used entirely for feeding animals.
Keep in mind, I still do eat animal products and am not a strict vegetarian, but I've vastly curtailed the amount I eat and feel much better. Obviously everyone probably should eat a little bit of animal products just to keep sanity/variety/etc just like moderate alcohol consumption is proved to be better than none, but to argue for eating massive amounts of meat is idiotic.