The danger of vaccines that is being covered up

[odbo]

you read our posts, but you're just waiting to talk. you listen but you don't really hear.

math, science is not the problem. but there are errors in interpretation, falsified data, etc.
you're putting too much faith in something to the point where you lost any common sense

what was US intelligence was doing during this? when bin laden was on the FBI most wanted list for multiple US embassy bombings 2-3 years prior


what was bin laden's brother doing here?
this isn't some crackpot making a video, it's cbc, a canadian government owned network


what equation can explain why there was no airplane wreckage at the Pentagon?? (because THERE WAS NO PLANE). no footage of it hitting either? in fact no footage of any of the hijackers getting on any of the doomed flights. i'd also like to see the odds that of all the people who were killed in the pentagon it was in large part the same accountants who were tracking this missing money:



and yes i'd like to see some unbiased experts address the collapse of the 3 towers. you are not an expert! i could care less about your calculations. and i didn't build the towers, i'm not a structural engineer so i'm not here to proof read your figures. my opinion doesn't matter. but you don't see blatant lies that a 3 year old would question in other areas of the event.

like i said have a nice life. i dont enjoy talking to brick walls. i tried, maybe not hard enough but i tried to get you to think. you aren't able to think outside of your programming. for starters your emphasis on this overblown concept of islamic extremism and an asinine disinterest for zionism. but it goes deeper than that. you've got a serious case of stupid but you're too busy calling other people dumbass to address it. (i took that from Idiocracy)

[globetrotter]

you read our posts, but you're just waiting to talk. you listen but you don't really hear.

I hear what you say. I simple see the flaw instantly and I do not agree.

The problem is that you cannot understand criticism; your Religion immediately places all criticism under the category of 'Wrong, brainwashed. NLP programmed sheeple'. You also have ignored, for the 4th time, my point that I have read and seen all of your proof and found it all lacking. That's why I know so much about your CT Faith System - I considered your ideas, researched them, and found so many flaws that I have literally lost count of them.

The only way you would recognize someone listening to you and hearing what you say is if they agree with you.

I posted you/Adama/Winston would do this and you did:

Or, you will once again...make another meta-criticism.[/quote}

Why do you think it is that I can predict what you do before you do it?

You don't address what I write, you dismiss it out of hand, you post no logical rebuttal, and then you do what I posted you would:

You post something that states:

"Yeah, well what about THIS?!..." Posting another 'source', webpage, video or idea. Yet you guys can never argue on your own intellect - you must ALWAYS pull in an 'expert' or an outside source? Why is that? Can't you debate on your own? And why is it that you do this and I continue to predict it ahead of time?

This constant avoidance of addressing another's arguments gets tedious. You never address my points, you simply ignore what I write, and then you toss out another CT.

If I destroy the multitude of arguments above, you will simply do what you have demonstrated that you will do, what you have done in this entire thread:

You will ignore what I post, and then you will toss out some more CT that I am incumbent to disprove. Of course since you cannot debate in good faith and cannot recognize logic or defeat when you see them, you will simply continue posting more and more CT until someone simply gives up, then you will claim victory.

Then you will ignore the flaws I find in THOSE points you make, and then you will simply add another, and another, and another.

You guys (Winston, LO, Adama, any and all CT'ers) do this like clockwork. It is predictable as the sun risinig.

LO why do you think that is? Why do you think that I have been predicting your responses ahead of time? Luck?

There is nothing wrong with math interpretation that disproves my calculations. There was enough energy in WTC 1 or 2 to take down WTC 6 or 7 with ease. It's a matter of known physics. You simply ignore it, and then state 'Well, it's not right because it can be interpreted wrong'. This is the copout of the critical theory relativist.

I am curious, why do you need the math to be interpreted? Can't you do it for yourself? It's simple enough.
Either there was enough PE in the WTC towers to greatly exceed the bomb blast that WTC 6/7 were designed to survive, or there was not.
It isn't open to interpretation. The known design limit is X. If the PE is > X, then the building fails. It is that easy to calculate, so let's see your math right here, right now.

what was US intelligence was doing during this? when bin laden was on the FBI most wanted list for multiple US embassy bombings 2-3 years prior?

Have you learned about these concepts?
-Errors
-Mistakes
-Goofs
-Failures

Are you aware of those ideas?

Answer this simple question:

Is US intelligence capable of making a mistake?
Is the FBI capable of making a mistake?

These are yes or no questions.

Please answer.

[globetrotter]

You are too stupid to realize that you are stupid.

I not only realize it, i have admitted it to myself and others many times. i see it as a strength.

It isn't.

Your stupidity makes your arguments wrong.

[globetrotter]

what equation can explain why there was no airplane wreckage at the Pentagon?? (because THERE WAS NO PLANE). no footage of it hitting either? in fact no footage of any of the hijackers getting on any of the doomed flights. i'd also like to see the odds that of all the people who were killed in the pentagon it was in.

Sigh. We have been over this.

what equation can explain why there was no airplane wreckage at the Pentagon??

There was, your belief system simply refuses to acknowledge any evidence to the contrary. There was wreckage, I have seen the photos. It's all over the scene. Video wreckage, too. Eye witnesses, efc. First responders. Also at those velocities, debris is going to be very small due to the energies involved.

Fallacy: The wreckage must be large or of a certain size, a size that you must state 'This is ok' for the wreckage to be considered visible airplane wreckage.

(because THERE WAS NO PLANE). no footage of it hitting either?

Saw the video of the plane impact and photos the various debris, like second stage impellor blades as explained here:

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/co ... 0265.shtml

That blade is an interior compressor impellor, not the first, largest, exterior fan intake on a turbo-fan plane engine.

Fallacy: The footage from the security camera is fake and discarded. There are not enough witnesses, so that is discarded. No one has footage of the plane entering the Pentagon, therefore it did not, therefore there was no plane. All images are fake, all videos are fake. You did not see it first hand therefore it never happened.

If you knew WDC you would know that area near the Pentagon receives little traffic and has few or no pedestrians and there would be no reason for anyone to take a photo or video from that location. It is an area of large open green space with big buildings and few people.

in fact no footage of any of the hijackers getting on any of the doomed flights.

No footage of anyone getting on any flight. Ever see security cameras at the ticket counter at the ramp when you board? No? That's why.

Fallacy: There must be video footage of hijackers getting on to the planes or else there were no hijackers at all.

I predict that you will ignore these rebuttals, again. I predict that you will post more evidence of more aspects of this or other Conspiracies, but you will not refute one word of what I have posted.

You DEFINITELY will not post any math, or your calculations.

A list of your known fallacies to date:

A) You only want people to think for themselves if they agree with you. If someone does not agree with you, then they are not thinking for themselves.
B) Anyone who does not agree with you cannot think outside of their programming, is brainwashed, a sheeple or restricted by their NLP
C) Islamic Extremism predates Zionism by over 1,290 years but Zionism is always the cause
D) Dunning-Kruger Aspirant
E) Dismisses math, physics, science and the scientific method
F) The Scientific Method is a belief system, but your philosophy is not
G) Dismissal or ignorance of the scientific method
H) Conflation of coincidence/correlation as causative
I) Spiritual intuition, gut feeling are reality and all else is not
J) One must be an expert to criticize
K) Ignores or dismisses points made
L) Introduces another CT theory without addressing prior points
M) Assumes that there is no such thing as coincidence
N) All government agencies are infallible
O) If a government agency makes a mistake it MUST be due to a concerted effort of the Unseen Hand. It MUST be a Conspiracy.
P) Dismisses logic as irrelevant
Q) Statement of an unproven belief
R) False Dilemma Fallacy
S) Occam's Razor
T) There must be multiple videos of an event or it did not occur
U) The existing videos, however, are all fake and cannot be used as evidence, except when they support the CT position
V) All photos are fake and cannot be used as evidence, except when they support the CT position
W) Posts hip internet meme images, but offers no intelligent rebuttal
X) Lacks the ability to recognize advanced concepts, so assigns them metaphysical properties such as Magic, Belief, Opinion or Delusion

[odbo]

[globetrotter]

A, B, K & W.

Oh, and your photos from The Simpsons and The Matrix?:
H, I, M.

[odbo]

A list of globetrotter's known delusions to date:

A) You only want people to think for themselves if they agree with you. If someone does not agree with you, then they are not thinking for themselves.
B) Anyone who does not agree with you cannot think outside of their programming, is brainwashed, a sheeple or restricted by their NLP
C) Islamic Extremism predates Zionism by over 1,290 years but Zionism is always the cause
D) Dunning-Kruger Aspirant
E) Dismisses math, physics, science and the scientific method
F) The Scientific Method is a belief system, but your philosophy is not
G) Dismissal or ignorance of the scientific method
H) Conflation of coincidence/correlation as causative
I) Spiritual intuition, gut feeling are reality and all else is not
J) One must be an expert to criticize
K) Ignores or dismisses points made
L) Introduces another CT theory without addressing prior points
M) Assumes that there is no such thing as coincidence
N) All government agencies are infallible
O) If a government agency makes a mistake it MUST be due to a concerted effort of the Unseen Hand. It MUST be a Conspiracy.
P) Dismisses logic as irrelevant
Q) Statement of an unproven belief
R) False Dilemma Fallacy
S) Occam's Razor
T) There must be multiple videos of an event or it did not occur
U) The existing videos, however, are all fake and cannot be used as evidence, except when they support the CT position
V) All photos are fake and cannot be used as evidence, except when they support the CT position
W) Posts hip internet meme images, but offers no intelligent rebuttal

[globetrotter]

Add another:
X) Lacks the ability to recognize advanced concepts, so assigns them metaphysical properties such as Magic, Belief, Opinion or Delusion

LO,

I am done here.

You lack intelligence and therefore you are unaware of concepts that exceed your intellectual abilities to recognize them as they occur.

Thus, as I have posted before, you see logic, reason, debate and science as Opinion, Belief, Magic or Delusion.

Why?

Because you are not smart enough to comprehend when they exist.

Goodbye.

[Winston]

Vaccination - The Hidden Truth: A documentary about vaccinations and documents how vaccinations are causing more problems than they are helping.

[Winston]

Wow this is a very shocking and disturbing film about vaccines!

Description:

If you have care about Kids and your Pets, you must see this documentary. Discover what the experts say as they reveal the damage we unknowingly do to our children. Learn about mercury, formaldehyde and aluminum that some vaccines contain and the autism, asthma and neurological damage they can contribute to.

Most of the individuals who make the decisions about the vaccines kids receive have a financial stake in the drug companies that hold the patents? This reasoned yet brilliant expose is one that the pharmaceutical community hopes you won't see, but is must viewing for all. Easily one of the most important documentaries you will ever see.

[Winston]

[Mr S]

http://vactruth.com/2012/04/29/monkeys-get-autism/

Monkeys Get Autism-like Reactions to MMR & Other Vaccines In University of Pittsburgh Vaccine Study
By Catherine J. Frompovich | April 29th, 2012 |

A University of Pittsburgh study showed vaccines altered the behavior in monkeys.

Someone did perform safety studies the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) should have mandated be performed and vetted BEFORE numerous vaccines were released into the public sector for mass vaccinations.

Lead investigator Laura Hewitson, PhD, probably dropped a bombshell when she and her colleagues completed a macaque monkey (primates) study of the very same vaccines given to children during 1994-1999, i.e., the Measles-Mumps-Rubella (MMR) vaccine and several Thimerosal mercury-containing vaccines injected into children during that time frame when the autism spectrum disorder skyrocketed.

The results of that pilot study were published as a Research Paper in Acta Neurobiological Experimentals in 2010 and titled “Influence of pediatric vaccines on amydgala growth and opioid ligand binding in rhesus macaque infants: A pilot study.� [1] Even though there was alleged controversy revolving around Hewitson’s monkey studies, e.g., charges of conflicts of interest since she filed a claim with the vaccine court on behalf of her child, [2] the information generated needs to be revisited and duplicate studies need to be undertaken. Why haven’t they? Is there too much influence from vaccine makers not to do them? Parents need to make demands on the U.S. Congress to require such safety studies on monkeys be duplicated immediately, plus suspend all mandates on vaccinations until the study results are in. Did Dr Hewitson become another professional persona non-grata because she may have been on the right track?

Congress needs to consider seriously the Hewitson, et al. report that stated:

“Vaccine-exposed and saline-injected control infants [monkeys] underwent MRI and PET imaging at approximately 4 and 6 months of age, representing two specific timeframes within the vaccination schedule. …

“These results suggest that maturational changes in amygdala volume and the binding capacity of [11C]DPN in the amygdala was significantly altered in infant macaques receiving the vaccine schedule.� [1]

That alone should be the explicit reason for duplicating the monkey study with independent non-pharmaceutical industry conflict of interest scientists.

In this author’s opinion, no one has bigger conflicts of interest in study outcomes than the pharmaceutical makers who routinely perform them. Those are the very studies that should be subject to the same criticism as Dr Hewitson’s. Why aren’t they? Good question?

For those keeping track data, ASD went from 1 in 5,000 in the 1990s to the recently acknowledged [March 2012] figures of 1 in 88 along with 1 in 6 children in the USA having developmental disabilities. These stats were generated for data in the years 2006 to 2008. [3] There’s a 4 to 6 year lag time. Could ASD be 1 in 50 by now at the rate it is escalating?, especially since there’s a heavier push on mandates for vaccinations.

According to the Hewitson, et al. research study, biological changes and altered behaviors did occur in vaccinated monkeys, which resembled and were similar to those observed in ASD diagnosed children. However, there were no such symptoms showing or present in unvaccinated monkeys. Don’t you just gotta love those little monkeys! Guess what else the ASD monkeys came up with, and Dr Wakefield is gonna like this one: Gastrointestinal problems manifested in vaccinated macaques such as “many significant differences in the GI tissue gene expression profiles between vaccinated and unvaccinated animals.� [3] It’s been a deeply debated topic within medicine that vaccinated children who contract ASD also have GI tract issues. Personally, I gotta wonder how the British Medical Journal is going to deal with encrusted dried egg on its face when duplicate studies confirm the Hewitson monkey results. Perhaps the infamous BMJ retraction of the Wakefield article and Doctor’s professional evisceration, commonly referred to as the “Wakefield Syndrome,� euphemistically speaking is medicine protecting its vested interests.

Those little monkeys, however, came up with some other significant information that led former National Institutes of Health director Dr Bernadine Healy to voice some bon mots like:

“I think public health officials have been too quick to dismiss the hypothesis as ‘irrational,’ without sufficient studies of causation…without studying the population that got sick.�

“I have not seen major studies that focus on 300 kids who got autistic symptoms within a period of a few weeks of the vaccines.� [4]

Perhaps the most on-point quote regarding the monkey study came from Scott Bono, the National Autism Association chairman, i.e., something those who are accused of being against vaccinations have been questioning and demanding:

“To date, the CDC has conducted no safety testing on the possible harmful effects of simultaneously administering multiple vaccines to infants, and has steadfastly refused to state a preference for mercury-free vaccines to be given to children and pregnant women. It’s time for HHS and Congress to step in and take vaccine safety away from the CDC.� [4]

This author’s retort to Mr. Bono’s remark is that vaccine safety should be taken away from the Food and Drug Administration too! I’d like to remind readers that Congress is more at fault than anyone in this vaccine debacle. Congress has oversight and it has dropped the ball big time, probably due to all the lobbyists from Big Pharma who prowl the halls of Congress with deep pockets and nice expensive luncheon dates.

One of the issues I feel Congress has been remiss about is that it has not demanded safety studies and interaction of multiple vaccines studies BEFORE being placed into the marketplace. According to common and accepted knowledge, no such safety research or studies have been done on the current childhood vaccination regimen, except until the Hewitson ‘monkey business’ that was funded by independent, private money, for which everyone, I think, should be eternally grateful. However, the study had to be shot down since it was not favorable to vaccine makers. Why isn’t someone else duplicating the monkey studies? Are they afraid of becoming another victim of science? Why, when isn’t that what medical science should be all about investigating problems and theories, publishing results, and interacting with other sciences, NOT excommunication as if they were breaking some religious dogma. Or, do they, in some vested interests minds?
Current Vaccine Safety Activism in Congress

Now here is something every VacTruth reader should consider seriously: Supporting Congressman Dan Burton’s (R-5-IN) request to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Darrell Issa to hold hearings on the Vaccination Injury Compensation Program. Back on January 12, 2011, this writer filed a Whistleblower’s Complaint on Vaccines with Chairman Issa and has yet to receive an acknowledgement of that filing.

Isn’t about time to revisit, update, and do more extensive research into the Autism Spectrum Disorder pandemic that is spreading globally?

April 24, 2012 Congressman Burton posted a letter to The Hill’s Congress Blog titled, “It is time to re-engage on the autism epidemic.� He also wants to pass legislation to force the President to address the ASD epidemic and its impact on Americans. Burton is committed to helping millions of children, adults, and families afflicted with ASD. We need to support Congressman Burton ASAP and here’s how:

Contact the Canary Party to support their Facebook pages to hold Congressional hearings and a White House Conference on Autism. Contact News@CanaryParty.org.
Contact Congressman Darrell Issa at the Oversight and Government Reform Committee at 2157 Rayburn House Office Bldg., Washington, DC 20515 or preferably telephone your request for Autism Investigation Hearings to 202-225-5074.

For those who want to know about this information, the National Autism Association (http://www.nationalautism.org) will be holding a rally for toxin-free immunizations in Washington, DC on June 4, 2012, titled “Green Our Vaccines,� which this author thinks is an oxymoron. How can you green vaccines when every ingredient is toxic? Just check out the CDC’s PinkBook Vaccine Excipient & Media Summary at http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbo ... able-2.pdf.

Before I leave this article, I would like VacTruth readers to know that my colleague who also writes for VacTruth, Laraine C Abbey, RN (retired) and I co-edited a 150 page monograph in January 2011 titled Vaccines & Vaccinations: The Need for Congressional Investigation, which you can read in full on VacTruth at http://vactruth.com/vaccines-vaccinatio ... stigation/.

Apparently others have read it and agree.

Congressman Burton, Nurse Abbey and I congratulate you on taking the stand you have, and we offer you our resources in obtaining a Congressional investigation.

President Obama, Nurse Abbey and I respectfully request a White House conference on Autism, and we offer you our resources to effectuate a non-biased conference.

VacTruth readers, I charge you with spreading this information and article as far and wide as you possibly can so that we can get an investigation that ought to be open, not biased, and the scientific facts—nothing but the facts, like those the monkeys finally had to prove. It was not monkey business; it’s the real deal.

References:

[1] http://www.ane.pl/pdf/7020.pdf

[2] http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/0 ... ittsburgh/

[3] http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/data.html

[4] http://www.vaccineriskawareness.com/Inf ... n-Primates

[Winston]

Confirmed! Flu Vaccine INCREASES Risk of Serious Pandemic Flu Illness

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... _DNL_art_1

[Winston]

Freethinker George Jettison discusses vaccines and autism with some critical thinking. He concludes that the real disturbing purpose of vaccines is to CAUSE disease, not to prevent it.

[Intolerant]

But the thing is, 'autism' and 'aspergers' has always existed, we just haven't noticed it until very recently.

http://www.rdos.net/eng/asperger.htm

There isn't anything negative about having autism or aspergers, and people with aspergers' are just high-functioning autistics.

Ever wonder why most autistics are Eurasian and not Black?