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Best International Dating Sites?

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Re: Best International Dating Sites?

Postby Voyager1 » March 25th, 2017, 10:03 am

Could ukrichard be the owner of this site? Winston, what's his IP address?
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Re: Best International Dating Sites?

Postby ukrichard » March 27th, 2017, 7:30 am

Hi Guys
I am actually a client of theirs, a very happy one. I have been through the ringer over and over with schemes and fake profiles and over a period of two years paid well over the 5K they are charging. It may seem a lot but work it out realistically. It costs a fortune to maintain a verified database of genuine women, they interview each one. The staff requirements to manage all the offer ris aspects of the services they offer is large.
These are actual people who meet you at the airport, bus you around, interact with you, hell we even had dinner with the owner who spent a few hours with us, made us feel really at home.
Sure, its not for everyone but come on, complaining about the price?? Look at the top end sites in the US charging 25K plus. Remember this is a service for professionals who expect a certain level of service. It exists because of the need in the marketplace, I was just trying to make others aware it was out there as they don't advertise.
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Re: Best International Dating Sites?

Postby Voyager1 » March 29th, 2017, 9:23 am

So what now ukrichard, you're such a happy client you are now involved in promotion for them? I don't think anyone is buying your bullshit.
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Re: Best International Dating Sites?

Postby Winston » March 29th, 2017, 10:46 am

ukrichard wrote:Hi Guys
I am actually a client of theirs, a very happy one. I have been through the ringer over and over with schemes and fake profiles and over a period of two years paid well over the 5K they are charging. It may seem a lot but work it out realistically. It costs a fortune to maintain a verified database of genuine women, they interview each one. The staff requirements to manage all the offer ris aspects of the services they offer is large.
These are actual people who meet you at the airport, bus you around, interact with you, hell we even had dinner with the owner who spent a few hours with us, made us feel really at home.
Sure, its not for everyone but come on, complaining about the price?? Look at the top end sites in the US charging 25K plus. Remember this is a service for professionals who expect a certain level of service. It exists because of the need in the marketplace, I was just trying to make others aware it was out there as they don't advertise.


Which US dating site or company charges 25k? Come on. Thats a fictitious comparison. I dont know of any dating site that charges that much. eHarmony, the most successful dating site in the US, only charges around 100 dollars.

Of course 5k is a lot. Why would a database or staff of workers cost that much to maintain in the Philippines? The average salary in the Philippines is about 6 dollars a day, or 300 pesos. You could hire a gazillion employees in the Philippines and not come anywhere near 5,000 USD in terms of cost.

So come on. The numbers dont add up. Give me a logical reason besides pure greed, for charging 5k.

Also, at the 5k package you dont even get hotel or airfare? Wtf? Why not? Give us a valid reason please. That seems very unprofessional. Where does all that 5k go exactly? Whos the owner? Whats his name?

What do you get for 5k exactly? Introductions to 10 girls? How are those girls screened exactly for quality and sincerity? How do you know they arent just random girls? How are they better than the ones at ChristianFilipina.com?
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Re: Best International Dating Sites?

Postby ukrichard » March 29th, 2017, 1:13 pm

Hi Winston

Not sure what part of society you move in but here is one site that charges up to 75K (US$), and google will give you five others in no time.
kelleher-international(dot)com

You get what you pay for. Keep in mind these aren't online dating websites. How is it that people can go out and blow 3000 dollars on dinner in New York for a night out with a few friends and then complain about 5000 for a partner for the rest of your life. I've seen western men in the Philippines blow 10K in one night. The info I received on each girl I met was over 8 pages long for each lady, all their info and I mean everything. Personal pedigree, health, children, likes, dislikes, medical conditions, education, financial status, the works.

It's not greed, its service in a way that only a foreign company can understand and I would have happily paid twice that for the service I have had over the last few months. You are made to feel at home and your even need is taken care of, from the moment you arrive. Its the difference between purchasing a Ford or an Aston Martin. In terms of the owners information, he is an international businessman with interests in Europe and the Philippines. Message him from the website and ask him what you want to know. Hope that helps. I won't post here anymore, Voyager One seems to have ulterior motives, I simply wanted to let people know there was an alternative to the online sites, if someone hadn't helped me I would still be stuck on them.
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Re: Best International Dating Sites?

Postby Voyager1 » March 29th, 2017, 3:13 pm

What a crock of shit. 5k does not guarantee you will get "a partner for the rest of your life". This guy claims his 3rd date he is getting married to.

"In terms of the owners information, he is an international businessman with interests in Europe and the Philippines." Sounds very sketchy to me.

ukrichard is the f***ing owner trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Doesn't work here scam artist.

"I've seen western men in the Philippines blow 10K in one night." Have you seen that Winston? What a f***ing scam artist.
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Re: Best International Dating Sites?

Postby Winston » March 29th, 2017, 3:33 pm

Ukrichard,
Are you a successful client of this company? If so can we see photos of you and your wife or fiancee? And photos of other successful couples too?

Btw your figures are way off. I dont know anyone who spends 3k USD on dinner in one night. Even star atheletes who are multimillionaires report spending only a few hundred dollars on dinner for them and their friends.

Nor have i seen anyone spend 10k USD in the Philippines in one night. Do you mean 10k in pesos or dollars? Lol. Tell me exactly how this guy spent 10k in one night in the Philippines. Did he withdraw 10k in cash and throw it at a crowd in public? Lol

Any guy can make up numbers. I'd like to see real evidence. There isnt much evidence on your site.

Btw you said that all your clients needs are taken care of like VIP customers. If thats so then why doesnt the 5k include accommodations, meals or airfare? Lol. Hmmmmmm.

Come on man. Money isnt that easy. I know you're hoping for easy money in large amounts but reality isnt like that unless you are truly blessed.
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Re: Best International Dating Sites?

Postby nomadphilippines » March 30th, 2017, 1:23 pm

ukrichard is doing some solid trolling here

or he is just awful at life, i can't be sure which
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Re: Best International Dating Sites?

Postby Winston » March 30th, 2017, 2:18 pm

nomadphilippines wrote:ukrichard is doing some solid trolling here

or he is just awful at life, i can't be sure which


He's not trolling. He's just trying to sell a $5,000 service and trying to making it sound like it's not that expensive or that the price is worth it, and using bogus higher numbers to try to make 5k not look that much in comparison. These are the oldest sales/marketing tactics in the book. American marketers/sellers use such tactics too. I wouldn't call that trolling. Just standard misleading sales tactics. We've all seen them before. The trick is packaging it in a very attractive way that results in paying clients. That's what Mark Davis does so well.
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Re: Best International Dating Sites?

Postby Gold » April 25th, 2017, 10:53 am

If you want a Caucasian woman who is beautiful, intelligent, educated and at the same time holds family as her #1 priority in life, you cannot go pass Russian and Ukrainian women.

I know Winston has been to Russia and dated women there, stories of which he shared on my site Womenrussia.com some 15 years ago, and it didn't really work for him, so this forum tends to have an inclination toward Asian women. I agree Asian women are lovely, and there are lots of guys who prefer girls from Philippines or Thailand, and I have heard they make excellent wives.

Notwithstanding this, if you would like a European woman of the quality that is not available to you at home, go to Russia or Ukraine. Maybe also Belarus, Kazakhstan, and other post-USSR republics (they have lots of Russians who still live there, although there are some stunning Asian ladies as well, there were several Asian countries in the former USSR).

The advantage for men is an education in addition to strong family values.

Russia is still the country with the highest amount of people with degrees, and, for example, on Elenasmodels.com we have over 90% of women who have a college or university degree. Some of them are doctors of medicine or science, lots of lawyers, accountants, engineers, architects, etc. They are all there and really want a husband.

Their lifestyle is closer to that of western countries, so to me, Russian and Ukrainian women are more compatible with people who want more than just a loving housewife. Girls from the former USSR are on average more intellectual, well-read, and educated.

If you haven't been to Elena's Models for a while, this is what we have done since 2014:

1. Completely eliminated any agents. Now ALL women register directly with Elenasmodels.com.

2. Affordable flat-fee membership plans. You know exactly how much it will cost you upfront. Chatting and emailing to women is free on Gold, Platinum, and Ultimate membership, so you can communicate as much as you want (no payment per message). Platinum and Ultimate plans have unlimited contacts, on Gold you can talk to 50 women. You are free to share your direct contact details and date and talk off the site.

3. We only approve 30% of women who apply. As compared to other Russian dating sites with flat fee membership, which approve everyone instantly, and only then remove scammers on complaints. We screen applicants vigorously before approval, so it's a much better system to protect our members, which saves you lots of time and emotional investment.

4. All women are personally interviewed by phone or Skype. We increased the number of administrators to conduct pre-approval interviews, so now we talk to every lady. Women confirm their knowledge of English, that they have a passport to travel, the knowledge of our rules (no money requests for any reason), that they will be communicating with men on their own and that they registered themselves directly (no agents). Women also show us their documents during Skype interviews.

5. We approve 2 times more women than in 2014. Our Russian traffic has increased, as well as reputation in Russia. We now approve double the number of women as compared to 3 years ago.
6. NO women from PPL sites are accepted. "Pay per letter" (PPL) is cancer in the body of international dating, which should be cut before it destroys it for good and sincere people. I know these sites pay good commissions to websites who promote them but they do a very bad job for clients. Before 2014 we didn't have a block on PPL women to register, and as such, they used to grab clients on Elena's Models and then ask them to move to PPL sites and pay for messages there. PPL girls also came with their culture of "getting something from dating", causing problems for men who fell for them. Now we check vigilantly and any woman who was part of PPL systems is immediately refused. Even if she was there in the past. No people who were "paid to date" can register on our site.

7. Full-site HTTPS. Your communication and data are on secure servers, the whole of a membership website, to add an extra level of safety.

8. Integrity disclosure. This is part of our Terms of Use: "Elena's Models operate all member-to-member communications with the following guarantee:

No automated introduction messages are used by ElenasModels.com to induce communication between members.
No automated "Bots" are hard-coded into the website to simulate profile visits, photo likes, chat requests, emails, expressions of interest, or any other communication.
No agents or third parties provide any profiles (questionnaires, photos, videos) in exchange for a payment or commission.
No translators or other contractors are employed to simulate communication between users."

This is why we have lots of success stories from international couples, which you can read on EM (scroll down to "Success stories"). In fact, member complaints are at all times low, problem personages simply don't get through the initial checks. So, come to EM if you haven't visited lately and you just may find what you have been looking for.

If your age is 30-45, you will be highly popular, all the girls who are 25-35 and want kids and family will be after you. But in general, it's best to write to women first, because we are not PPL, so women have no financial incentive to start a chat with you. Russian girls really hold to that "hunter-prey" dating scheme, where a man is supposed to pursue a woman, so it's actually very easy to become her favourite—just be persistent.

I see some guys evaluate dating sites by the number of mails they received... on a PPL site you will always get lots of mails and chat requests, for sure. Because people have a financial incentive to start and keep a conversation—you are paying per message. Our girls and women do not have any intensives, except finding a good husband for themselves. But deep in their hearts they truly believe that a "real man" will pursue his chosen woman, and that's the only way to ensure she will find a loving husband who won't cheat on her. That's another reason why you get the best women when contact girls first.
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Re: Best International Dating Sites?

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Re: Best International Dating Sites?

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