Why Asian men and White women are NOT naturally compatible

[jamesbond]

White women will flirt with asian guys at work in order to get them to do stuff for them. The picture below says it all.

[green1976]

Somebody have heard about Yu Masaki?
This Asian guy who killed a man and seriously injured a woman near a fitness center.

http://www.halfsigma.com/2012/01/asian- ... -rage.html

Asian omega-male rage?

Asian man shoots two at fitness center, one man dead. Driven to rage by unrequited love (or lust)?

Masaki reportedly had been a member of the fitness club and also a “wannabe boyfriendâ€￾ of McCombs, a witness told police. He even presented her with a gift at some point, but she was not interested, the witness said. The club had asked him to stop coming there because he had made “extremely aggressive advances,â€￾ not just toward McCombs but other women there, a police report said.

Photos show Yu Masaki as a very short youngish-looking Asian with a buzz cut and gangbanger-style clothing. It’s a rather unusual style for a nerdy Asian, but one hypothesis is that Masaki read some PUA stuff about women liking alphas, and then tried to overcompensate with the gangbanger style


This person qualify as the asian guy who could not get a chick, been less than a beta,been almost nothing for the opposite sex.

Also he wanted to be somebody he is not by following the PUA credo,playing the gangsta but the success was not there,so he snipped and ended up using a firearm.

What a receipe for an incoming disaster but he lacked the global vision to see he was only a tool for the cynical system who is built on a pure schizophrenic pattern.

A typical case of sexual,affective frustration,another product of a society like the US.

They are various report regarding James Holmes as a case of beta male rage also.
He too was quit lonely,and was confined to prostitutes.

He got rejected many times few days before the killing.

http://www.halfsigma.com/2012/07/the-la ... -post.html

[Rayn]

White women will flirt with asian guys at work in order to get them to do stuff for them. The picture below says it all.

If one goes with the do-something-for-me-first mindset, such outcomes can be easily avoided.

[fightforlove]

There is a simple logical explanation why Asian male/White female couples are generally rare and fundamentally mismatched. (which all statistics on interracial relationships confirm)

A White female is more masculine, rough and independent than a typical Asian female from Asia. They need a guy who is more masculine than them, or at least is taller and looks more masculine. A typical Asian guy looks way too meek and feminine to them. They are not masculine enough for them, nor sexually attractive to them either. Asian males look nothing like what her DNA-driven mating instinct looks for. This is why most White women treat Asian men as asexual and do not consider them for any type of romantic relationship.

On the other hand, a typical white female, especially an American white female of Anglo/Germanic/Scandinavian descent, is not feminine enough for an Asian male. NE Asian women in China and Japan are 1000x more feminine than White women are, even those in Europe, in every way. There is no doubt about that. A modern white woman is more rough, thick-skinned and masculine, compared to a typical Asian female. Therefore, a typical super feminine Asian woman is no doubt more naturally suited for an Asian man, who is not as rugged and masculine looking as a White male is. This is why white women who go to NE Asian countries have a lot of trouble finding decent quality Asian men to date, and often complain about it on the internet.

These are the fundamental reasons why Asian males and White females are not naturally suited for each other and have a very low success rate in long-term relationships. It makes perfect logical sense, don't you think?

But on the other hand, White males and Asian females are far more common, have a higher success rate, and are more naturally suited (as long as both are open minded about interracial relationships), because a more masculine looking white male and a super feminine female are a viable match. However, I've noticed that the types of White males that get along best with Asian women are not the rugged, red neck or macho types, but the low key, mellow types with less testosterone, and are more open minded and intellectual about other cultures. Some of these white guys (such as Rock) seem to have "Asian souls and personalities", hence we call them "eggs" - white on the outside, yellow on the inside. lol

What do you all think? Does this make sense?

A few observations:

1) Feminist women (of any race) DO NOT look for a man who is more masculine than them. They often look for passive/feminine men whom they can dominate.

2) I personally have several asian male friends/acquaintances who date or are married to white women. AMs and WFs are more compatible than you think. One thing all of my white-fever asian buddies have in common though: they're highly Americanized. Some of them defy the asian stereotype (nerdy, introverted, obsessed with video games, etc). I think the reality of why we don't see as many AM/WF couplings is because many asian men naturally are FOBs and fall into the aforementioned stereotypes. My Korean buddy thinks its even simpler: asian men simply don't ask out white girls as often as white men ask out asians. Moral of the story for asian men: if you can americanize yourself (fluent english, cool hobbies, get out of your asian neighborhood bubble, etc) and start asking white women out, you're bound to find success like my friends apparently have.

3) I'm an egg!! Yep, it's pretty true. Most of us white guys with asian girls are pretty nerdy/intellectual/introverted compared to the average american white guy. A lot of us are engineers and other nerdy types. The extroverted, socially skilled white guys will not date asian since they were always popular in school and thus had no problem always getting the attractive white women. The white guys who end up with asian women are usually the left-overs/late-bloomers and I think asian women like the nerdy/intellectual personality since it reminds them of their fathers, brothers, etc.

[Jester]

I'm sure there are issues in these against-the-tide pairings. But they are still very do-able.

My attractive, slender, submissive, polite, considerate, intelligent, helpful blonde Slovakian assistant is pregnant by her husband who is from... Vietnam. They live in an apartment and share a car. He is building a straight-commission multi-level financial planning practice, so he is not a high-flying top-tier-corporate type. Just a hardworking guy. And they met over here in the U.S. - it's not like he rescued her from some backward village. So she chose him over non-Asian American men.

His secret? I'm not sure. I'll ask him if and when I meet him. But let me hazard a guess.

I bet he went after her.

Faint heart never won fair lady.

[RichardLee]

Asian men and White women are naturally compitable

Asian Husband/White wife 219,000 couples.
slightly over 37 percent of Asian men have white female partners.

[Winston]

Richard Lee,
Sorry but all stats show that interracial dating/marriage has a LOWER success rate than same race couples. Asian guys and White girls can hook up in the short term, but not long term.

Anyone can post pictures of exceptions, but they are still not the norm. You are thinking in a narrow manner if you believe that a few exceptions change a norm.

Where does your 37 percent stat come from?

[RichardLee]

Richard Lee,
Sorry but all stats show that interracial dating/marriage has a LOWER success rate than same race couples. Asian guys and White girls can hook up in the short term, but not long term.

Anyone can post pictures of exceptions, but they are still not the norm. You are thinking in a narrow manner if you believe that a few exceptions change a norm.

Where does your 37 percent stat come from?

I'm not denying that Wiston Wu, but it still proves there are plenty of White women who will go for Asian men, and many Asian men can also hook up on long term just as much as short term The pictures are proves that even Asian men can get very beautiful white girls. At least you dated girls, I've never even landed an kiss on any girl in my entire life but you don't see me losing hope. It's not like the difference in ratio between Asian men/White women and White men/Asian women is 1: 100 or 1:10. For every Asian men white women couples you will 3 to 4 times more white men and Asian women.

Here in the U.K for every Chinese man I've seen with an an white women there's always 2 to 4 White men with Asian women (Chinese, and Thai).

Slightly over 37% of Asian-American men cohabited with white women before.

The source is here http://www.modelminority.com/joomla/ind ... &Itemid=56



It's time we start acting more positive. Many white girls are getting more into Japanese culture and many white girls are developing an fetish for Korean boybands. You can this video, East Asian boybands from Asia are the first type of men to attract internation fan girls from Europe to Latin America.


Thousands of White french girls cheering for Asian boyband 2pm



Thousands of German white girls cheering for Asian boyband Beast Kpop



International fan girls support for Asian boyband

[RichardLee]

http://anepigone.blogspot.co.uk/2009/05 ... -race.html
2000 Census showing cohabitation and marriage statistics by race and gender.

Asian men white women = 26.5% Cohabit
Asian men Black women = 1% Cohabit
Asian men Latina women = 5.5% Cohabit
Asian men other women = 4.1% Cohabit


However there is still about 10% ( or 700,000 Asian America men single)





Asian women white men = 39.7% Cohabit
Asian women Black men = 5% Cohabit
Asian men Latin men = 5.5% Cohabit
Asian women other men = 4.4%

[momopi]

Richard Lee,
Sorry but all stats show that interracial dating/marriage has a LOWER success rate than same race couples. Asian guys and White girls can hook up in the short term, but not long term.
Anyone can post pictures of exceptions, but they are still not the norm. You are thinking in a narrow manner if you believe that a few exceptions change a norm.
Where does your 37 percent stat come from?

As I've already stated in the "Don't be an Angry Asian" thread:
viewtopic.php?p=70817&sid=c62a1cd90694b ... ce0ae74cc1

"...there was an article published in 2008 that claimed AM/WF couples are 59% more likely to divorce [8]. Upon closer inspection, we find that their study had a sample size of 1,606 men and 4,070 women with a small % of Asians.

A much larger study published in Feb 2009 with sample size of 23,139 couples (46,278 people) showed that AM/WF and WM/AF divorce rates were roughly equal. Asian/White marriages are more prone to divorce than AM/AF couples, but less likely to divorce than WM/WF couples [9].


Souce:
[8] http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 0491.x/pdf
[9] http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 582.x/full


In other words, the 2009 study showed that AM/WF married couples are less likely to divorce than WM/WF married couples. This refers to married couples only, and not unmarried BF/GF couples.

I'd also point out that in the US, when you say "Asian", people tend to think East Asian, versus in the UK (where Richard Lee is) when you say Asian, people think "Indian" or "Pakistani".

[helloworld]

Guys like Winston are the type of Asian guy that fail at dating white women themselves or just have low self esteem in general, so therefore instead of blaming themselves they immediately play the race card. "It's not me, it has to be my ethnicity!" Guys like this are pathetic. They usually end up writing these "woe is me" type posts on anonymous forums that either paint themselves as a victim or that adopt the very same racist/prejudice attitudes too often spouted by ignorant and close minded people. Often these posts claim objectivity, but in reality are just faux posts that wallow in self hatred. I see these types of guys not only among Asians, but other groups of color as well. It's disgusting.

Moreover, some of the posts on this thread are just dripping with white and Asian male insecurity. A handful of the posts are just downright racialist, backwards, false/speculative, ignorant and obvious signs of rationalizing to fit a particular world view or narrow personal opinion. Some of the ideas being thrown around about "masculine" and "feminine", as if these aren't manufactured social constructs, is laughable. Yes there are some "physical" and many "cultural" differences between "ethnicities" but these are largely superficial and are by no means inherent or static in nature. Nor are any given traits only particular to one ethnic group. The notions of "masculinity" and "femininity" differ from culture to culture, but to imply that a whole group of people are either less or more masculine or feminine is preposterous. Props to the people making rational and sensible comments though.

The reality is, Asian men and white women, black women, Hispanic women, etc. are perfectly compatible. Especially in areas of the US (I'm personally from the US so I can only speak from the Asian American male perspective) that have high concentrations of Asians. In particular Asian men and white women that are educated and that are of a higher socioeconomic bracket have been long seen in the urban areas of the US as being highly compatible. This isn't really a new development. Yes, the "stereotypical" pairing is wm/af, but am/wf is getting a lot more traction in the main stream these days and attitudes are slowly starting to catch up with the reality on the ground.

Ultimately dating patterns will be dictated first and foremost, by accessibility and socio-economics. Sure, race is still a factor, but it's not the end all be all for a lot of people these days. Demographics are changing and the world is globalizing. Though of course, xenophobia, racism, backwards thinking, and attitudes brought on by "racial" insecurity still abound (as evidenced by some of the posts in this thread), but those kinds of people will eventually have to change and adapt or they'll just stay bitter and be left behind.

note: I personally happen to be an Asian American male married to an American white woman, but this post isn't some chip on the shoulder post, but rather just a response to dumb people and their insecure rants on the internet. Don't believe a lot of the haters floating around the web. They are almost always speaking from a negative and narrow perspective, not to mention an anonymous one.

[Intolerant]

1/2 of Asian-American women marry out of their race; 1/3 of Asian-American men marry out of their race. The 1/6th difference is due to many Koreans and Filipinas marrying non-Asian men.

[copacetic]

Guys like Winston are the type of Asian guy that fail at dating white women themselves or just have low self esteem in general, so therefore instead of blaming themselves they immediately play the race card. ... The reality is, Asian men and white women, black women, Hispanic women, etc. are perfectly compatible.
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note: I personally happen to be an Asian American male married to an American white woman, but this post isn't some chip on the shoulder post, but rather just a response to dumb people and their insecure rants on the internet. Don't believe a lot of the haters floating around the web. They are almost always speaking from a negative and narrow perspective, not to mention an anonymous one.

On one hand, I agree with you, helloworld, in that wallowing in self-pity about something we don't like about ourselves (whether it be our race, education, sex, some kind of disability, etc.etc.) is the bigger issue. I think there are many people who don't realize that it's not so much about the outer appearance but the inner traits (e.g. attitude, behavior, conduct, mannerism, etc.) that's at the heart of the issue. The problem is that it's not easy to self-identify weaknesses or flaws in our inner traits like low-self esteem, but very easy to pick apart something we don't like about our outer appearance.

On the other hand, I wouldn't completely disregard the arguments that Winston and others like him address. Racial tension is a very real thing, whether intended or unintended. I don't agree with how Winston is using his statistics as a weapon to browbeat his critics because he hasn't shared with us the source(s) of his statistics, the sampling size of his statistics, etc., but I would argue that you may be guilty of the very thing you're accusing Winston of being guilty. If you're accusing him of using a broad racial brushstroke that refuses to accept AMWF relationships as anything other than failure, then you may be using the same broad brushstroke of accusing everyone who does use the race card as insecure, low-self-esteem, etc.

Just my two-cents, for what it's worth.

[RichieBoy]

Haha, I love that last sentence where you said they have 'Asian Souls', I must have an Asian Soul being an Asian lady...I definitely love Asia because of the traditional culture which still exists in some more remote areas where the hectic pace of modern life hasn't taken over.

I saw an overweight white female with an Asian boyfriend a while ago in Pattaya, I say good on her if she can find someone

[In2dadark]

Maybe the question should be 'who does want American (white) women'...?