Why Asian men and White women are NOT naturally compatible

[Enticer]

For the most part Winston is right...

We are all animals....no matter what you feel about a human soul or not. There is a dominance order among any group of 2....so, when a M/F get together, it must be properly balanced or else it will fail...

This is why short men should NOT try to date tall women....most taller than him type women do not see him as a strong enough man to protect her. She may deny this but again, the mate selection process is subliminal...

[vanatos]

lel such a stupid OP.

Im an asian guy and have no problem going out with white chicks, so let me tell you how it is generally for white women (exceptions everywhere)

Masculinity attraction in men has VERY little to do with your physical appearance so long as your not substantially shorter then a woman
or are anorexic.

Now if your thin and sickly looking, eat more and go to the gym, but you can still land girls, and funnily enough, usually fat girls (dont ask me why they like dating thin geeky types).
If your a manlet (below 5'6) then yes its tough, best to go for girls of your own height, sorry no cures here.

Masculinity has everything to do with being outward and confidant, which really just means being able to talk casually to a girl, if you cannot achieve this, then
you will find it hard to date girls of any ethnicity anywhere.

i lol at these 'asians generally look feminine' bullshit excuses, women seriously don't care that much, and if you look at any long-term successful relationships anywhere, you might notice its always
relatively ugly women with ugly men, hell you can look at the successful asian men/white woman relationships posted in this thread, you would think they would have to be porn star quality drop dead gorgeous to get over some perceived ethnic physical hurdle, but their not.

If you really want to get scientific, studies have long found men find more attractive in a realistic scenario, women with 'realistic' figures (ie what you would consider a bit chubby), not your porn star/movie star figure, even though this is what they might like to look at for pr0nz.

In the same token, women might fantasize about lets say, teh black man with rippling muscles and a 10 inch dick, but fantasy!=what your brain really wants in reality, strange i know, but consider that im sure most of our imagined fetishes is much more arousing then if it were reality (which it would be a huge turnoff).

So about the dating scene for women, yes you might (it is actually rare) run across women who are absurdly picky, these women are only out there to have a good time (not serious relationship possibility) and have (a very misguided notion) that they CAN be picky.

What happens to these women is that they may get into relationships, but it always ends badly, they turn 40 and suddenly (if your a man) no matter how ugly you are, if you are at least somewhat
financially/career stable, any of these woman would go after you, its a well-known phenomenon where the dating game suddenly swing sharply to men and every woman post mid-30's jumps on them.

TLDR

1.attractiveness to women is you can talk to them casually (make them laugh, be at ease etc) and NOT be shorter then them (sorry guys)
2. Long term relationship potential for women is generally your financial stability and your personality clicks (dont underestimate the importance of your finance to women)
3. Generally women aren't really serious until their in there 30's+ years, these women are the loser women who are still single when their 40's and are desperate to land a man because
they increasingly cannot compete against younger women, why generally women waste their youthful beautiful years playing around is beyond me, but there you have it.

So really, don't worry guys, worse comes to worse, just wait till your 30+, and you won't be able to keep women off you.

[Anthropolonerd]

TLDR

1.attractiveness to women is you can talk to them casually (make them laugh, be at ease etc) and NOT be shorter then them (sorry guys)
2. Long term relationship potential for women is generally your financial stability and your personality clicks (dont underestimate the importance of your finance to women)
3. Generally women aren't really serious until their in there 30's+ years, these women are the loser women who are still single when their 40's and are desperate to land a man because
they increasingly cannot compete against younger women, why generally women waste their youthful beautiful years playing around is beyond me, but there you have it.

So really, don't worry guys, worse comes to worse, just wait till your 30+, and you won't be able to keep women off you.

This is the dumbest blue pill shit you're gonna find. The idea that women care more about "if you can talk to them casually" than "he looks like a model" is something I'm not going to even bother with.

Other than that, you seem to be talking about "women who are 30+" as if that's a good thing. How on earth is it a good thing to wait around while everybody else is having fun and you sit on the sidelines, waiting for the women to turn 30+ (and ugly) before you can have your "fun" (much fun an old and used up woman).

Worst advice ever.

OT Asian men just don't correspond to the ideas that white women have of their men, neither in terms of looks or personality. It's that simple. There are some Asian men who do correspond to those ideas (i.e. are tall, "act white", have a face that is compatible with her expectations etc). Those Asian guys are very rare but they can definitely date white girls if they wanted to.

[reallyredlips]

This supports the American fapdream of Asian women being submissive to ugly greasy white men.

[zboy1]

TLDR

1.attractiveness to women is you can talk to them casually (make them laugh, be at ease etc) and NOT be shorter then them (sorry guys)
2. Long term relationship potential for women is generally your financial stability and your personality clicks (dont underestimate the importance of your finance to women)
3. Generally women aren't really serious until their in there 30's+ years, these women are the loser women who are still single when their 40's and are desperate to land a man because
they increasingly cannot compete against younger women, why generally women waste their youthful beautiful years playing around is beyond me, but there you have it.

So really, don't worry guys, worse comes to worse, just wait till your 30+, and you won't be able to keep women off you.

This is the dumbest blue pill shit you're gonna find. The idea that women care more about "if you can talk to them casually" than "he looks like a model" is something I'm not going to even bother with.

Other than that, you seem to be talking about "women who are 30+" as if that's a good thing. How on earth is it a good thing to wait around while everybody else is having fun and you sit on the sidelines, waiting for the women to turn 30+ (and ugly) before you can have your "fun" (much fun an old and used up woman).

Worst advice ever.

OT Asian men just don't correspond to the ideas that white women have of their men, neither in terms of looks or personality. It's that simple. There are some Asian men who do correspond to those ideas (i.e. are tall, "act white", have a face that is compatible with her expectations etc). Those Asian guys are very rare but they can definitely date white girls if they wanted to.

In Asia, I see that a lot of the White women are interested in Asian men--and I've seen a fair number of White women with Asian men in this part of the world (not abundant but they exist)--so I suggest Asian men looking for attractive White women come to Asia. Don't bother getting White women back in the States or the Anglo world.

[Enticer]

This is the dumbest blue pill shit you're gonna find. The idea that women care more about "if you can talk to them casually" than "he looks like a model" is something I'm not going to even bother with.

No....YOU'RE wrong. Women find confidence the #1 attraction in men. I have done studies and polls AROUND THE WORLD on this....and he is right. If you cant talk to a woman without being nervous and acting like an asshole, you're out. If you can hold her interest with something intelligent...AND make her laugh....you hit the tri-fecta.

In my polls and studies, on a world wide basis, the top 3 attractors for women when they look at men were:

1. Confidence
2. Intelligence
3. Sense of Humor

Initial attraction...that first 10 seconds, IS based somewhat on height and appearance....which shorter men sometimes do have problems with. But from there, its the top three listed above. The above Asian man's post was spot on...

[RickyRetardo]

Not all women like tough, masculine guys. Most do, sure, but some women like soft men.

I've seen white girls with thin, soft-looking Asian guys in long-term relationships. Is it common? No, of course not. But it happens; it isn't a needle in a haystack thing.

And not all Asian guys are soft. If an Asian guy works out in the gym and pushes himself hard and gets a good diet, he will eventually start to look pretty tough.

[DanielleNguyen]

Winston, I am a white american woman married to a vietnamese man. We are actually rather happy together and expecting a baby boy come late September. Appearance has nothing to do with it. I was drawn to my husband because he treated me right. We were able to laugh together and talk for hours. I was head over heels. Even now, yeah we have out arguments but all it takes is one hug from him and suddenly I'm not mad anymore. Yeah asian men/white women are uncommon. But it has nothing to do with appearance. It's more of some women don't want to cross that cultural borderline. I use to be one of them. I use to be omg what if I say something offensive? Omg he's looking at me.... should I smile...dang it too late. Ughhhh... I missed my shot.

[Bao3niang]

Isn't this forum supposed to be on international dating (or for most of you men on here, screwing around overseas)? Why have most of the recent posts been on stuff related to the Anglosphere?

[Yohan]

Yeah asian men/white women are uncommon. But it has nothing to do with appearance.
It's more of some women don't want to cross that cultural borderline.

Not really so uncommon - at least not here in Tokyo within the German speaking expat community, the number of those couples (woman from Europe, man from Japan) is clearly growing every year. We are often surprised how many they are, but nobody shows up with any racial objections.

The problem is about Anglosphere and racial discrimination. Of course there will be always some people everywhere in this world who do not like foreigners, or do not like mixed race marriages, or dislike mixed race children etc., but it is nowhere like in USA.

Another point I see in USA is the aggressive behavior of the Chinese minority, who are also often known for racial discrimination.
I noticed that they never say 'Chinese' about themselves, but always 'Asian-American'. However not every Asian-American is a Chinese, but they do not respect that. Just acting if every Asian-American is thinking like they do.

Around 2000, about 15 years ago, those websites were very abusive, calling to beat up white men who are dating Asian women and raping Asian women who are in relationship with a white man. Most of these websites, calling themselves 'Angry Asian' or 'Angry Tiger' etc. are now closed or operating only against membership because of legal issues.

There are also Chinese-American owned prank-websites and 'professional complainer websites' in USA, which make fun out of mixed raced marriages between Asian women and white men.

http://www.bigbadchinesemama.com/

This is the owner of this website above.
http://www.giantrobot.com/martin/kristi ... ver-spent/
http://kristinawong.com/about/

She considers herself as a 'funny' artist, but it is not really funny.
http://kristinawong.com/about/press/

http://www.genders.org/g46/g46_hudson.html

Big Bad Chinese Mama
Asian cyber-feminism and subversive textual strategies

Masculine fantasies about Asian women, that have excited the imagination of both Western and Asian men, have often inscribed them as gentle, submissive, and servile — they are concubines, maids, flight attendants and prostitutes, among others.

Luckily nobody in my family has anything to do with all this non-productive hateful racist BS in USA... but as this example shows, some people make even a living out of it.

[Bao3niang]

Women from Europe and Japanese men? Come on, it's EUROPEAN women, not Anglo women. Europe and Asia have a lot more in common historically and culturally (Silk Road, sea routes etc.)

[Yohan]

Yes, correct, as I said , women from Central Europe, speaking German or German related languages, they are coming into Japan now much more frequently than ever before, and prefer to stay in Japan permanently - travel is now easier and cheaper than ever before.

There are also many more 50/50, European-Japanese mixed people than ever before living in both regions and of course they have children too, some prefer to live in Central Europe, but others prefer Japan.

I did not observe a similar trend between other countries, only Japan with Central Europe. Living standard is about the same, no major economic differences, and there are no problems like visa, working permits, health insurance etc. - even tourists might stay up to 6 months visafree in both directions.

The political situation of Germany-Japan is not like China-USA. Racism of the Anglosphere, a hateful movement, is very destructive, maybe worse than even feminism.

It's often said something like Northern America - Asia - Europe etc., but this is too simple, there are strong differences between those rrelated countries themselves and how they handle their relationship.

[DanielleNguyen]

But as for long term relationships between white women and asian men, it depends on your believes and morals. In America most couples are like if it's broken throw ir away I'm more of the if it's broken fix it type. I personally haven't seen any other couples like my husband and I. I'm sure they are out there somewhere. I just haven't ran into one yet.

[Yohan]

This is because USA - Vietnam related people often create ghettos and do not communicate well. This is quite different with German-Japanese people.

It's maybe one of the general mistakes to think, white women/Asian men are more or less the same regardless from which country they are coming.

If you work in international trade, law, shipping, insurance, translation services etc. in Tokyo, you will see many couples with EU-wife and Japanese husband, and in those offices typically about 1/4 of their staff are Central European women are in a relationship with Japanese men.

There are many more Japanese men married to a foreign wife, than Japanese women with a foreign man.

My daughters are 50/50 EU-Japanese, and both are married with Japanese men.

EU women are coming in frequently because of being exchange students, volunteers, secretaries from head offices of EU-related companies, staff for embassies, consulates etc. - some go back after a few years, but surprisingly many more stay in Japan for longer.

This is nothing really new here in Japan, I know couples in their 70s and 80s who are Japanese men with EU-wife. But now among young people there are many more in a relationship of Japanese man/EU women than ever before.

There are no racial issues (black/white), or religious issues (Islam, Hindu), or economic issues (poverty, 3rd world country) etc. between EU-Japan.

It seems the differences between EU-Japan are easily to overcome, regardless the gender.

[bob123]

I think people are drawn to cultural compatibility and not just physical compatibility. There are plenty of meek, quiet, boring white girls. These nice white girls have trouble dating because they are so quiet and passive that they usually end up the dating the first guy to ask them out. There are plenty of white girls that are shy and have low self esteem. You never meet them because they usually just stay home.

As for inter-cultural marriage, most people end up marrying someone of the same religion. Even if the husband and wife are different races, if they have the same religion, it will make marriage a lot more likely. This just makes it more "socially acceptable in their community" and personally compatible if they agree on the same lifestyle. In America, there are a lot of inter-racial marriage between catholics who are white and hispanic. Its often much easier to meet women at Church instead of at a bar. More and More Asian men are becoming christian and westernized. More Asian men are comfortable adapting to Western religion and lifestyles.

The reason there are fewer Asian-White marriages is simply because Asian men don't go to Church and other places to interact with white women. The more often an Asian man interacts with a White women, the increased likelihood that he will date her and marry her.