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Not All Women Want An Alpha Male

Postby Taco » February 21st, 2012, 4:20 am

I’m slowly coming to the conclusion that something is wrong with a culture if the women explicitly prefer alpha males. It makes illogical sense from a biological and humanitarian standpoint that a woman would go after men who will not provide or take care of them.

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Postby momopi » February 21st, 2012, 7:39 am

Some women will go after alpha males to bear their children (knowing that the high status male wouldn't stick around), then marry a beta male husband to raise the child.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1dIEadU6Fg&feature=related[/youtube]
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Re: Not All Women Want An Alpha Male

Postby OutWest » February 21st, 2012, 8:12 am

Taco wrote:I’m slowly coming to the conclusion that something is wrong with a culture if the women explicitly prefer alpha males. It makes illogical sense from a biological and humanitarian standpoint that a woman would go after men who will not provide or take care of them.

Not All Women Of The World Want An Alpha Male
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I note in the link as well as other comments, that it is even difficult to find a definition of "Alpha Male" here.
the default, (and most likely fallacious) definition seems to be a thuggish type brute who bullies his way into getting what he wants...
gangster thug types with brutal tendencies and capricious character.

That seems to be the model these days and it is telling for that to be the case. I would suggest this is misguided.
What is perceived here as "alpha" is just bad boy behavior that if kept in check, might allow the man a chance for a job in a security detail for the
alpha male he will be guarding. A genuinely powerful male does not need to display thuggish behavior. He likely has learned to not put himself at risk
He has money and power. The little BS dramas are handled by subservient employees.

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Re: Not All Women Want An Alpha Male

Postby Winston » February 21st, 2012, 8:32 am

OutWest wrote:
Taco wrote:I’m slowly coming to the conclusion that something is wrong with a culture if the women explicitly prefer alpha males. It makes illogical sense from a biological and humanitarian standpoint that a woman would go after men who will not provide or take care of them.

Not All Women Of The World Want An Alpha Male
http://www.rooshv.com/not-all-women-of- ... um=twitter


I note in the link as well as other comments, that it is even difficult to find a definition of "Alpha Male" here.
the default, (and most likely fallacious) definition seems to be a thuggish type brute who bullies his way into getting what he wants...
gangster thug types with brutal tendencies and capricious character.

That seems to be the model these days and it is telling for that to be the case. I would suggest this is misguided.
What is perceived here as "alpha" is just bad boy behavior that if kept in check, might allow the man a chance for a job in a security detail for the
alpha male he will be guarding. A genuinely powerful male does not need to display thuggish behavior. He likely has learned to not put himself at risk
He has money and power. The little BS dramas are handled by subservient employees.

Outwest


A bad boy type is not what is meant by "alpha male". Bad boys are just fun and exciting and challenging to some women, esp American women. Also, what you consider a "bad boy" and what an AW considers a "bad boy" are different, as Steve Hoca explained. An alpha male is simply one who is in the upper status of the hierarchy in terms of money, power, social status, looks, or some combination of those traits.

Usually though, he has to "look" alpha male as well, by being tall, handsome, strong and fit. So someone like Albert Einstein, even with his prestige, accomplishments and intelligence, is still not going to be seen as an "alpha male" by mainstream women, though nerdy girls may like him.
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Postby Winston » February 21st, 2012, 8:36 am

momopi wrote:Some women will go after alpha males to bear their children (knowing that the high status male wouldn't stick around), then marry a beta male husband to raise the child.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1dIEadU6Fg&feature=related[/youtube]


Wow she's hot. Who is that? That's the ideal looking brown skinned girl I talk about when I say that only some women look good with dark skin. lol
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Re: Not All Women Want An Alpha Male

Postby davewe » February 21st, 2012, 9:07 am

Winston wrote:
OutWest wrote:
Taco wrote:I’m slowly coming to the conclusion that something is wrong with a culture if the women explicitly prefer alpha males. It makes illogical sense from a biological and humanitarian standpoint that a woman would go after men who will not provide or take care of them.

Not All Women Of The World Want An Alpha Male
http://www.rooshv.com/not-all-women-of- ... um=twitter


I note in the link as well as other comments, that it is even difficult to find a definition of "Alpha Male" here.
the default, (and most likely fallacious) definition seems to be a thuggish type brute who bullies his way into getting what he wants...
gangster thug types with brutal tendencies and capricious character.

That seems to be the model these days and it is telling for that to be the case. I would suggest this is misguided.
What is perceived here as "alpha" is just bad boy behavior that if kept in check, might allow the man a chance for a job in a security detail for the
alpha male he will be guarding. A genuinely powerful male does not need to display thuggish behavior. He likely has learned to not put himself at risk
He has money and power. The little BS dramas are handled by subservient employees.

Outwest


A bad boy type is not what is meant by "alpha male". Bad boys are just fun and exciting and challenging to some women, esp American women. Also, what you consider a "bad boy" and what an AW considers a "bad boy" are different, as Steve Hoca explained. An alpha male is simply one who is in the upper status of the hierarchy in terms of money, power, social status, looks, or some combination of those traits.

Usually though, he has to "look" alpha male as well, by being tall, handsome, strong and fit. So someone like Albert Einstein, even with his prestige, accomplishments and intelligence, is still not going to be seen as an "alpha male" by mainstream women, though nerdy girls may like him.


Actually EInstein was quite the playa, having gone from woman to woman before and after he became world famous. His exploits were pretty well known and not just with nerdy girls. His treatment of his wives and children was less than stellar.

Don't know if that makes him Alpha. As Outwest said I too have never read a plausible definition of what is an Alpha. But ol Albert took his skills, fame and wealth and did pretty well for himself and on multiple continents. Gotta respect that!
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Postby xiongmao » February 21st, 2012, 9:56 am

Alpha men don't just have big biceps. In the UK many politicians are ugly as f**k, yet women are drawn to them like you wouldn't believe. It's the same in France, and of course Italian politicians are the worst of the lot.

To be alpha you need confidence, money, looks or power.

As far as having kids, men are usually cads or dads.
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Postby emh » February 21st, 2012, 3:51 pm

I'll just relate my experience. First off, I want to say that unlike many people here, I don't hate American women. I have two sisters, lots of female cousins, and lots of female friends. Many of them are married to great guys.

As for me, I'm basically the definition of beta. I'm short (about 5'6 or 5'7), bald (though decent looking), shy, introverted, nonassertive, etc. You can just imagine how little success I've had with American women.

So here are my experiences in other countries:

Philippines: I dated a girl who was 8-10 years younger than me. She had a master's degree, worked for an American company, made enough money that she paid the mortgage on her parents' house, paid for her brother's education, traveled internationally, etc. And she insisted on paying every other time we went out.

Colombia; I dated two girls. First was a 22 year old law student, 19 years younger than me. Physically she was a 7 or 8 depending on your type (a bit chubby, but huge breasts and a great face). She lived with her parents in the best part of Medellin. (dad was a lawyer, mom an accountant).

Second girl was a 24 year med student, 17 years younger than me. She lived with her brother in a nice apartment in a nice area of Medellin. Her parents paid for the apartment plus everything else in her life so obviously her parents had some money. Physically she was about a 6 or 7.

Peru I dated a 31 year old, 11 years younger than me. Physically she was about an 8. She had the least education of any of the women I've dated (basically an associates in graphic design). That being said, she taught herself how to speak english and her family also lived in a nice place in a nice part of Lima.

Two other things.

1) I met all of these women through "natural ways". None of them were on dating sites desperately looking for a gringo to "save them".

2) While dating these women, I wasn't doing much with my life. In the Philippines, I was volunteering about 10-20 hours a week. In Colombia I was taking about 10 hours a week of spanish lessons. In Peru, I was doing nothing with my life, just hanging out. None of that mattered to these women. All they cared about was that I was a nice guy who treated them well.
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Postby momopi » February 22nd, 2012, 5:10 am

Winston wrote:
momopi wrote:Some women will go after alpha males to bear their children (knowing that the high status male wouldn't stick around), then marry a beta male husband to raise the child.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1dIEadU6Fg&feature=related[/youtube]


Wow she's hot. Who is that? That's the ideal looking brown skinned girl I talk about when I say that only some women look good with dark skin. lol


@_@

Her name is right there in the title of the YT video.
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Postby Voice of Reason » February 24th, 2012, 6:36 am

emh wrote:I'll just relate my experience. First off, I want to say that unlike many people here, I don't hate American women. I have two sisters, lots of female cousins, and lots of female friends. Many of them are married to great guys.

As for me, I'm basically the definition of beta. I'm short (about 5'6 or 5'7), bald (though decent looking), shy, introverted, nonassertive, etc. You can just imagine how little success I've had with American women.

So here are my experiences in other countries:

Philippines: I dated a girl who was 8-10 years younger than me. She had a master's degree, worked for an American company, made enough money that she paid the mortgage on her parents' house, paid for her brother's education, traveled internationally, etc. And she insisted on paying every other time we went out.

Colombia; I dated two girls. First was a 22 year old law student, 19 years younger than me. Physically she was a 7 or 8 depending on your type (a bit chubby, but huge breasts and a great face). She lived with her parents in the best part of Medellin. (dad was a lawyer, mom an accountant).

Second girl was a 24 year med student, 17 years younger than me. She lived with her brother in a nice apartment in a nice area of Medellin. Her parents paid for the apartment plus everything else in her life so obviously her parents had some money. Physically she was about a 6 or 7.

Peru I dated a 31 year old, 11 years younger than me. Physically she was about an 8. She had the least education of any of the women I've dated (basically an associates in graphic design). That being said, she taught herself how to speak english and her family also lived in a nice place in a nice part of Lima.

Two other things.

1) I met all of these women through "natural ways". None of them were on dating sites desperately looking for a gringo to "save them".

2) While dating these women, I wasn't doing much with my life. In the Philippines, I was volunteering about 10-20 hours a week. In Colombia I was taking about 10 hours a week of spanish lessons. In Peru, I was doing nothing with my life, just hanging out. None of that mattered to these women. All they cared about was that I was a nice guy who treated them well.


Western women take it in turns to be penetrated by "alpha" males...They are essentially groupies. All the while they will tell you what a bad person you are for dating foreign women. They would prefer you to be in America and trying to chase them, just so they can reject you, and then go on about how they have been sexually repressed.
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Postby jamesbond » February 24th, 2012, 9:24 am

emh wrote:1) I met all of these women through "natural ways". None of them were on dating sites desperately looking for a gringo to "save them".

2) While dating these women, I wasn't doing much with my life. In the Philippines, I was volunteering about 10-20 hours a week. In Colombia I was taking about 10 hours a week of spanish lessons. In Peru, I was doing nothing with my life, just hanging out. None of that mattered to these women. All they cared about was that I was a nice guy who treated them well.

Isn't it nice to live in a country where you can meet women naturally? Meaning, you don't have to go to bars and clubs to meet them, you can actually meet them in normal places like bookstores, grocery stores and shopping malls.

That alone makes traveling to foreign countries a good idea if you want to meet women. :D
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Re: Not All Women Want An Alpha Male

Postby All_That_Is_Man » March 5th, 2012, 1:30 am

Taco wrote:Not All Women Want An Alpha Male


A lot of women actually want a Grade A sucker. One who will inevitably become her ATM machine, her meal ticket, and her retirement plan, all while she witholds sex for the rest of his life. Think YOU've got what it takes to be the ideal mate of every American woman?...
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Postby Taco » March 5th, 2012, 2:03 am

emh wrote:As for me, I'm basically the definition of beta. I'm short (about 5'6 or 5'7), bald (though decent looking), shy, introverted, nonassertive, etc. You can just imagine how little success I've had with American women.

While dating these women, I wasn't doing much with my life. In the Philippines, I was volunteering about 10-20 hours a week. In Colombia I was taking about 10 hours a week of spanish lessons. In Peru, I was doing nothing with my life, just hanging out. None of that mattered to these women. All they cared about was that I was a nice guy who treated them well.


Yeah, I believe you. When I met my Filipina I was unemployed and suffering from depression but she didn't even care.
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Postby ExpeditionSailor » April 4th, 2012, 11:51 pm

Taco wrote:
emh wrote:As for me, I'm basically the definition of beta. I'm short (about 5'6 or 5'7), bald (though decent looking), shy, introverted, nonassertive, etc. You can just imagine how little success I've had with American women.

While dating these women, I wasn't doing much with my life. In the Philippines, I was volunteering about 10-20 hours a week. In Colombia I was taking about 10 hours a week of spanish lessons. In Peru, I was doing nothing with my life, just hanging out. None of that mattered to these women. All they cared about was that I was a nice guy who treated them well.


Yeah, I believe you. When I met my Filipina I was unemployed and suffering from depression but she didn't even care.


Then I should do OK in the Philppines. I'm moderately hearing impaired, have obstructive sleep apnea (treated), and Type 2 diabetes. Balding and a bit fat to boot, and not too good looking. In other words, I'm a wreck. 99% of Western women wouldn`t even touch me - they'd be just as likely to look at me (if they look at all) and go, 'eww'. I just wish I knew why Western women are so f***ing inhumane. They neither understand nor appreciate what men have done for them, nor the forbearance that men have shown.
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Postby E_Irizarry » April 5th, 2012, 12:01 am

Taco wrote:
emh wrote:As for me, I'm basically the definition of beta. I'm short (about 5'6 or 5'7), bald (though decent looking), shy, introverted, nonassertive, etc. You can just imagine how little success I've had with American women.

While dating these women, I wasn't doing much with my life. In the Philippines, I was volunteering about 10-20 hours a week. In Colombia I was taking about 10 hours a week of spanish lessons. In Peru, I was doing nothing with my life, just hanging out. None of that mattered to these women. All they cared about was that I was a nice guy who treated them well.


Yeah, I believe you. When I met my Filipina I was unemployed and suffering from depression but she didn't even care.


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