tre wrote:djfourmoney wrote:Repatriate wrote:As I said before, sexual preferences across racial lines in America is based on stereotypes. Even a lot of the white anglo guys I meet in Asia have these hard wired racist beliefs a lot of time which come out in conversation. They secretly like the idea of having other races' women at their feet and shaming non-white men. Non-anglo whites are a lot different in this regard..they view sex as sex and might have kinks but the power component and shaming aspect of it is much less.
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This Asian women is clearly racist against white people. It seems that she dates white men only in an attempt to punish them. I have never in my life ever dated an Asian woman like this. I dated Asian and Latin women because I generally find them more attractive...period. Racism will only die when people stop hating on each other. I don't date other races because I want to "shame the men of that race". That's just pointless and frankly, pathetic.
I once went on a date with a black girl and it was disturbing. Why? It sure didn't have anything to do with the girl. I liked the girl and I still do (friends). What scared me is the threatening looks and comments that we got from black guys. I was on guard all night. She was used to the reaction we got (she'd dated white guys before). However, that night was a serious eye opener for me. This is the BS that pisses me off. A black guy can date any white girl he wants to....or any other color. Same goes for any race. People have different preferences...that's all. That is NOT being racist!
Terrible things have happened to people throughout history. My ancestors were brutally raped and murdered. That was history and the descendents of those offenders are nothing like their ancestors. It's no use having pointless resentments. The fathers of some white women today are racist as are a few guys on this board. However, younger generations are less and less racist. The only thing that complicates this is government involvement. That's nothing new though, government f***s everything up.
Why must a white man apologize for being a white man? I don't see myself as any better or worse than any other man due to color. Why should I? What do the bad decisions of white men in the past have to do with me?
Two, okay maybe three points here
1) FAR too many White People are complicit in this society. They see racism, they hear about racism. However they don't confront these people, never confront family members and never confront the media's double standards either.
Example -
Nia Long explicitly asked for a White Male love interest in the movie Best Man's Holiday. What's wrong with this picture? How come no White guys stood up and said "Don't use US as proxy for your war with Black men"? They didn't know likely and actually don't care because they stand to benefit (and they do) from a fractured Black Community. I don't say the average White man is actively involved I know that's not the case, but you are complicit with how society is structured and not trying to change it.
You just said what White men too often say, which is "my people suffered at the hands of the elites of my home country" (Claiming Victimhood). Then you claim its a pointless resentment. How the hell is it pointless???? Again White men trying to define what's important and what's not, arguing from the Winner's POV, my feelings are invalid, thanks.
Again another typical cop-out is saying "The youth will save us" WTF? What evidence do you got? The study in this thread of is of current college students = The Youth, Gen Y, Gen Next, whatever. They can be just as f***ed up as Gen X when it comes to racial issues. It was a White guy, maybe around 30 that stood up at a GOP function and said -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t-syVgkmyA
All White People generally say is "He's an idiot" or like you said these people DO exist. However he's not going to change and do you know why? You are not hitting where it hurts = Pocketbook. Men like this should be made POOR, not allowed to work in a multicultural society if he can't function in it properly, looking for scapegoats and pointing fingers at others for his problems.
As I said, you are not him (maybe) but you allow this sort of stuff to continue. Like the creation of a White Student Union, is there a reason to ask WHY there isn't one and wouldn't you think its a poke in the eye to minorities to even have one considering our racial past in this country? Just as the Germans try to distance from themselves from Hitler, White men don't try to distance themselves from it, they BLAME THE VICTIMS!
Of course you're going to get looks from stupid niccas; these are the same niccas they attack Tommy and others for pointing out bad behavior by Black Men and Women especially, since they give birth to children. Why would a Black women date a White guy? Is it because there no eligible Black Men?
Maybe its personal preference as you say, but there are other Black women married to White men instead of being happy with their relationship are still badgering Black men for not making the grade or something. Also many Black women are colorstruck, IE they want to eliminate the blackness from their offspring; this is especially the case with dark skin BW, because its likely they have been the victim of name calling and other issues growing up and even as an adult.
For instance "She looks good for a Dark Skin girl". Not wanting her children to experience that, they are very happy when they find a White guy that likes them. They've admitted as such on Tommy's show. Not shocking at all, it is what it is.
Most Black men who understand their value don't care if Black women marry White men, just don't imply a double standard saying its okay for you to marry a White man, but not okay for me to marry a White woman.
2) Demonizing "Government"
So you're saying the Government doesn't do anything right? In a Libertarian world, everybody would be free to do what they want, even be racist if they want, its you Mr and Mrs Minority that must steer clear of this person's personal space and property, because in a
free society we don't impose multiculturalism on people that don't want it, is that your solution?
3) Nobody is asking White men or White People to apologize, that is misinterpretation of the actual problem.
Silence is complicity to social norms. If you like the idea of ignoring glaring problems in our society by claiming victimhood yourself, then don't come complaining to me when I call White men on the mat for their social shortcomings and call that racist my saying so.
Also that Asian woman isn't racist at all, she was telling it like it is. If that's not your experience then fine it doesn't make her's invalid, as I said, White men get to call what's valid and what's invalid according to how it portrays them...
As I said you are a cog in the structure, if you don't want to be a cog, then challenge these views held by people. Say something about Jew's and that person is never seen again in the media or rarely seen. Say something negative about Blacks and Faux News, Rush Limbaugh and others will have you on Speed Dial.
None of this stuff bothers me actually or prevents me from what I want to say or do. However I will not let White men get away with claiming victim-hood.
You can't claim victim if you won't own Slavery and Jim Crow especially, it wasn't that long ago (40-50 years ago) that Jim Crow was pervasive. People like to point fingers at the Deep South for their attitudes, but its becoming more are more known that Northerners benefited greatly from the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade and while didn't bring Jim Crow up north, they put Blacks into sections of town later known as Ghettos and have always had an overt police presence in those areas.
Some of the safest places in Latin America are 100% Black areas, so I am suppose to believe that Blacks are inherently angry or prone to violence????
I highly suggest instead of going woe is me, pick up Joan Walsh's book "What's The Matter With White People" or go to YouTube and watch her speak about her own experiences and the book. She is not a hick from the South, she grew up in typical Northeastern Middle Class setting, but the way she describes it, it could be any Southern City during Jim Crow.
Finally I will close with what happen to Henry Louis Gates because of a White woman neighbor thought that man who lived in the area for over a decade was an anonymous Black man trying to break into a house. The police were called and when they got their they confronted Gates and as man trying to get into his own house, he wasn't about to have a bunch of White bread policemen try disrespect him, so when he basically told them to go f**k themselves, he was arrested.
Sorry Tre but that shit doesn't happen to White men, especially not a Harvard Professor.