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What's your looks rating and success with foreign women?

Postby Deformed » Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:53 pm

Ive noticed most people here don't talk about their own looks out of 10.
I think most people have a pretty good idea of how attractive they are. like you know it if your tall handsome, short, bald average etc...

So as a veteran puahater, id like to know for 1: your looks rating out of 10 and 2: the looks rating of your foreign gf/10. because I know most us coupes are either hypergamous or looksmatched.
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Postby zboy1 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:06 am

I can say I'm a 7 to 7.5, in terms of looks. I've been told I'm handsome by some people--even though I don't feel particularly studly or anything...I know I'm no Ken Watanabe or Chow Yun Fat kind of Asian handsome, though.

I'm about 5'11 and over 200 pounds. I'm kind of big boned and slightly chubby--for an Asian. I would rate my foreign girlfriend about a 7/7.5 as well.
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Postby In2dadark » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:31 am

This isn't gay..
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Postby The Professor » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:41 am

I'm below average looking. I never had any luck overseas with women and I tried. I even got rejected by uglier women. I'm tall and anglo.
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Postby HouseMD » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:41 am

In2dadark wrote:This isn't gay..

Balls aren't touching, last I checked. But the nohomo quota is far below par, so, guess it could go either way.
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Postby mguy » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:54 am

In the USA i would be a 5.

In the Philippines I am a 7.

It has to do with the "local standard of beauty" and I'm a closer approximation of it in my environment.

I wrote about it here:

http://3rdworldhero.blogspot.com/2013/0 ... s-and.html
"So never refuse an invitation, never resist the unfamiliar, never fail to be polite and never outstay the welcome. Just keep your mind open and suck in the experience. And if it hurts, you know what? It's probably worth it."

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Postby Deformed » Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:35 am

your value to women is determined by looks money and status in the following order looks>money>status.

your looks fall into 3 categories aswell
signs of masculinity:
6'2 and above, muscular body, large wrist size, deep voice, wide shoulder to waste ratio, long fingers, shoe size 12 and above.

health and vitality:
-straight teeth (crooked teeth with gaps signify poor bone development)
-no glasses (glasses show a vision impairment, mothers don't want to pass that onto their offspring
-little to no moles(moles show high cancer risk0
-tan skin (pale skin is a sign of anemia)
-10 percent bodyfat

youth and fertility:
- no balding

certain facial ratios
compact midface, left/right symmetry, square jaw, high cheekbones.



money explains itself. Ppl on this forum are alittle obsessed with it and its partly the reason you guys are so successful with foreign women. your money is worth more in other countries.

Status is how socially sharp you are. The more "alpha" you are, the higher your status. also status can equal popularity in high school as well as fame. some popular ugly kids get laid lots in hs but are losers outside of high school because they are no longer in a confined place that allows them to have lots of status( I know a few guys like that)
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Postby HouseMD » Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:59 am

Deformed wrote:your value to women is determined by looks money and status in the following order looks>money>status.

your looks fall into 3 categories aswell
signs of masculinity:
6'2 and above, muscular body, large wrist size, deep voice, wide shoulder to waste ratio, long fingers, shoe size 12 and above.

health and vitality:
-straight teeth (crooked teeth with gaps signify poor bone development)
-no glasses (glasses show a vision impairment, mothers don't want to pass that onto their offspring
-little to no moles(moles show high cancer risk0
-tan skin (pale skin is a sign of anemia)
-10 percent bodyfat

youth and fertility:
- no balding

certain facial ratios
compact midface, left/right symmetry, square jaw, high cheekbones.



money explains itself. Ppl on this forum are alittle obsessed with it and its partly the reason you guys are so successful with foreign women. your money is worth more in other countries.

Status is how socially sharp you are. The more "alpha" you are, the higher your status. also status can equal popularity in high school as well as fame. some popular ugly kids get laid lots in hs but are losers outside of high school because they are no longer in a confined place that allows them to have lots of status( I know a few guys like that)

Eh, I wouldn't say looks are primary. Status really does win the day. The guy I know that has gotten more p***y than anyone I have ever met is obese, poor, balding, and almost 35. And this is in America of all places. But the guy just has a presence- he's the sort of man you're proud to know and associate with, the kind of guy that hosts 200+ person parties and has a solid personality. This guy goes home with a new college age girl basically every other night and has slept with well over 1,000 women. He's just alpha as f**k, guess he was born with it.

Money is a solid but undependable thing, as it cannot guarantee you quality women. It'll get you women, sure, but gold diggers abound. And looks... Looks are important for one night stands, but beyond that, they have diminishing returns. I've been with enough women to be happy, 3 of which were personal 9's. And I'm not a good looking dude, perhaps a 6 or 5.5 (though research pretty much shows that women have a binary rating scale where 10% of men are hot and 90% are average) but I've had a lot of success because I'm shameless, wild, and interesting.

In summary, looks are good for ONSs with random girls, money is good for hooking up with desperate women and gold diggers, but personality and status can help you across the board. Status is not equal to money, and is largely personality dependent, though looks and money make achieving a high status easier.
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Postby Deformed » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:23 am

HouseMD wrote:
Deformed wrote:your value to women is determined by looks money and status in the following order looks>money>status.

your looks fall into 3 categories aswell
signs of masculinity:
6'2 and above, muscular body, large wrist size, deep voice, wide shoulder to waste ratio, long fingers, shoe size 12 and above.

health and vitality:
-straight teeth (crooked teeth with gaps signify poor bone development)
-no glasses (glasses show a vision impairment, mothers don't want to pass that onto their offspring
-little to no moles(moles show high cancer risk0
-tan skin (pale skin is a sign of anemia)
-10 percent bodyfat

youth and fertility:
- no balding

certain facial ratios
compact midface, left/right symmetry, square jaw, high cheekbones.



money explains itself. Ppl on this forum are alittle obsessed with it and its partly the reason you guys are so successful with foreign women. your money is worth more in other countries.

Status is how socially sharp you are. The more "alpha" you are, the higher your status. also status can equal popularity in high school as well as fame. some popular ugly kids get laid lots in hs but are losers outside of high school because they are no longer in a confined place that allows them to have lots of status( I know a few guys like that)

Eh, I wouldn't say looks are primary. Status really does win the day. The guy I know that has gotten more p***y than anyone I have ever met is obese, poor, balding, and almost 35. And this is in America of all places. But the guy just has a presence- he's the sort of man you're proud to know and associate with, the kind of guy that hosts 200+ person parties and has a solid personality. This guy goes home with a new college age girl basically every other night and has slept with well over 1,000 women. He's just alpha as f**k, guess he was born with it.

Money is a solid but undependable thing, as it cannot guarantee you quality women. It'll get you women, sure, but gold diggers abound. And looks... Looks are important for one night stands, but beyond that, they have diminishing returns. I've been with enough women to be happy, 3 of which were personal 9's. And I'm not a good looking dude, perhaps a 6 or 5.5 (though research pretty much shows that women have a binary rating scale where 10% of men are hot and 90% are average) but I've had a lot of success because I'm shameless, wild, and interesting.

In summary, looks are good for ONSs with random girls, money is good for hooking up with desperate women and gold diggers, but personality and status can help you across the board. Status is not equal to money, and is largely personality dependent, though looks and money make achieving a high status easier.


true said. can you provide photos of this guy, can you tell me more about him? if you don't mind.
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Postby Maverick » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:49 pm

I've been rated, facially, about an 8.5 to 9 on dating sites. However, I'm quite short (5'6). So I guess it all balances out in the end.


HouseMD wrote:
Deformed wrote:your value to women is determined by looks money and status in the following order looks>money>status.

your looks fall into 3 categories aswell
signs of masculinity:
6'2 and above, muscular body, large wrist size, deep voice, wide shoulder to waste ratio, long fingers, shoe size 12 and above.

health and vitality:
-straight teeth (crooked teeth with gaps signify poor bone development)
-no glasses (glasses show a vision impairment, mothers don't want to pass that onto their offspring
-little to no moles(moles show high cancer risk0
-tan skin (pale skin is a sign of anemia)
-10 percent bodyfat

youth and fertility:
- no balding

certain facial ratios
compact midface, left/right symmetry, square jaw, high cheekbones.



money explains itself. Ppl on this forum are alittle obsessed with it and its partly the reason you guys are so successful with foreign women. your money is worth more in other countries.

Status is how socially sharp you are. The more "alpha" you are, the higher your status. also status can equal popularity in high school as well as fame. some popular ugly kids get laid lots in hs but are losers outside of high school because they are no longer in a confined place that allows them to have lots of status( I know a few guys like that)

Eh, I wouldn't say looks are primary. Status really does win the day. The guy I know that has gotten more p***y than anyone I have ever met is obese, poor, balding, and almost 35. And this is in America of all places. But the guy just has a presence- he's the sort of man you're proud to know and associate with, the kind of guy that hosts 200+ person parties and has a solid personality. This guy goes home with a new college age girl basically every other night and has slept with well over 1,000 women. He's just alpha as f**k, guess he was born with it.

Money is a solid but undependable thing, as it cannot guarantee you quality women. It'll get you women, sure, but gold diggers abound. And looks... Looks are important for one night stands, but beyond that, they have diminishing returns. I've been with enough women to be happy, 3 of which were personal 9's. And I'm not a good looking dude, perhaps a 6 or 5.5 (though research pretty much shows that women have a binary rating scale where 10% of men are hot and 90% are average) but I've had a lot of success because I'm shameless, wild, and interesting.

In summary, looks are good for ONSs with random girls, money is good for hooking up with desperate women and gold diggers, but personality and status can help you across the board. Status is not equal to money, and is largely personality dependent, though looks and money make achieving a high status easier.


Personally, I technically don't even have looks (due to my height), but I have no trouble having one night stands with average to hot women in the US (from bars, that is...I strike out with online dating). I find it nearly impossible to find a girl that is girlfriend material. And, on the few occasions that I have found one, she is not interested in me. Just something to consider.

I definitely agree that status matters most though. I've known guys as short as me, fat, and facially ugly that have cleaned up with girls because they were fun and popular (which led to them having tons of friends and having status). In my experience (when comparing the three qualities mentioned), looks are a distant second and money doesn't matter at all (unless the guy is INSANELY rich....I've never met someone like this in person so I have no basis of comparison).
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Postby HouseMD » Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:58 pm

Maverick wrote:I've been rated, facially, about an 8.5 to 9 on dating sites. However, I'm quite short (5'6). So I guess it all balances out in the end.


HouseMD wrote:
Deformed wrote:your value to women is determined by looks money and status in the following order looks>money>status.

your looks fall into 3 categories aswell
signs of masculinity:
6'2 and above, muscular body, large wrist size, deep voice, wide shoulder to waste ratio, long fingers, shoe size 12 and above.

health and vitality:
-straight teeth (crooked teeth with gaps signify poor bone development)
-no glasses (glasses show a vision impairment, mothers don't want to pass that onto their offspring
-little to no moles(moles show high cancer risk0
-tan skin (pale skin is a sign of anemia)
-10 percent bodyfat

youth and fertility:
- no balding

certain facial ratios
compact midface, left/right symmetry, square jaw, high cheekbones.



money explains itself. Ppl on this forum are alittle obsessed with it and its partly the reason you guys are so successful with foreign women. your money is worth more in other countries.

Status is how socially sharp you are. The more "alpha" you are, the higher your status. also status can equal popularity in high school as well as fame. some popular ugly kids get laid lots in hs but are losers outside of high school because they are no longer in a confined place that allows them to have lots of status( I know a few guys like that)

Eh, I wouldn't say looks are primary. Status really does win the day. The guy I know that has gotten more p***y than anyone I have ever met is obese, poor, balding, and almost 35. And this is in America of all places. But the guy just has a presence- he's the sort of man you're proud to know and associate with, the kind of guy that hosts 200+ person parties and has a solid personality. This guy goes home with a new college age girl basically every other night and has slept with well over 1,000 women. He's just alpha as f**k, guess he was born with it.

Money is a solid but undependable thing, as it cannot guarantee you quality women. It'll get you women, sure, but gold diggers abound. And looks... Looks are important for one night stands, but beyond that, they have diminishing returns. I've been with enough women to be happy, 3 of which were personal 9's. And I'm not a good looking dude, perhaps a 6 or 5.5 (though research pretty much shows that women have a binary rating scale where 10% of men are hot and 90% are average) but I've had a lot of success because I'm shameless, wild, and interesting.

In summary, looks are good for ONSs with random girls, money is good for hooking up with desperate women and gold diggers, but personality and status can help you across the board. Status is not equal to money, and is largely personality dependent, though looks and money make achieving a high status easier.


Personally, I technically don't even have looks (due to my height), but I have no trouble having one night stands with average to hot women in the US (from bars, that is...I strike out with online dating). I find it nearly impossible to find a girl that is girlfriend material. And, on the few occasions that I have found one, she is not interested in me. Just something to consider.

I definitely agree that status matters most though. I've known guys as short as me, fat, and facially ugly that have cleaned up with girls because they were fun and popular (which led to them having tons of friends and having status). In my experience (when comparing the three qualities mentioned), looks are a distant second and money doesn't matter at all (unless the guy is INSANELY rich....I've never met someone like this in person so I have no basis of comparison).

Money matters much more for relationships than sex in the western world. Women will rarely marry men of lower socioeconomic status, and such marriages have significantly increased rates of divorce. This all becomes sort of moot when you go abroad, as your economic and social status is nearly always going to be higher than the majority of locals. Extra income abroad doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot though, for varying reasons. Most westerners in SEA seem to be treated as if they are wealthy regardless of income, and expected to pay higher prices and support families because of this illusion of wealth. South Americans that I have dated weren't all that interested in income, as they were middle class girls and made wages that could pass as decent even by American standards. Eastern Europeans are often looking for more of a societal or social change than an economic one. I was never even asked what my career was by girls in EE or SA, aside from one girl who asked a couple weeks into our travels together. These are generalizations though, I would be curious about other men's feelings on the matter.

More income will not make you more attractive, per se, but it can increase your marriage opportunities both by allowing you to appear of higher status (drive around in a Ferrari or Porsche convertible and you'll see what I mean), and by increasing the number of women in your potential dating market that earn less than you do. It is also hard to earn wealth without also earning status, which affords you attendance at exclusive events, a high status social circle, and opportunities to meet high status women. Wealth+status = or > looks, if you have both in appreciable quantities and you have a solid personality. I feel like most men who have wealth that can't get laid are suffering from a deficit in social and networking skills more than anything else.
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Postby Deformed » Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:24 am

HouseMD wrote:
Maverick wrote:I've been rated, facially, about an 8.5 to 9 on dating sites. However, I'm quite short (5'6). So I guess it all balances out in the end.


HouseMD wrote:
Deformed wrote:your value to women is determined by looks money and status in the following order looks>money>status.

your looks fall into 3 categories aswell
signs of masculinity:
6'2 and above, muscular body, large wrist size, deep voice, wide shoulder to waste ratio, long fingers, shoe size 12 and above.

health and vitality:
-straight teeth (crooked teeth with gaps signify poor bone development)
-no glasses (glasses show a vision impairment, mothers don't want to pass that onto their offspring
-little to no moles(moles show high cancer risk0
-tan skin (pale skin is a sign of anemia)
-10 percent bodyfat

youth and fertility:
- no balding

certain facial ratios
compact midface, left/right symmetry, square jaw, high cheekbones.



money explains itself. Ppl on this forum are alittle obsessed with it and its partly the reason you guys are so successful with foreign women. your money is worth more in other countries.

Status is how socially sharp you are. The more "alpha" you are, the higher your status. also status can equal popularity in high school as well as fame. some popular ugly kids get laid lots in hs but are losers outside of high school because they are no longer in a confined place that allows them to have lots of status( I know a few guys like that)

Eh, I wouldn't say looks are primary. Status really does win the day. The guy I know that has gotten more p***y than anyone I have ever met is obese, poor, balding, and almost 35. And this is in America of all places. But the guy just has a presence- he's the sort of man you're proud to know and associate with, the kind of guy that hosts 200+ person parties and has a solid personality. This guy goes home with a new college age girl basically every other night and has slept with well over 1,000 women. He's just alpha as f**k, guess he was born with it.

Money is a solid but undependable thing, as it cannot guarantee you quality women. It'll get you women, sure, but gold diggers abound. And looks... Looks are important for one night stands, but beyond that, they have diminishing returns. I've been with enough women to be happy, 3 of which were personal 9's. And I'm not a good looking dude, perhaps a 6 or 5.5 (though research pretty much shows that women have a binary rating scale where 10% of men are hot and 90% are average) but I've had a lot of success because I'm shameless, wild, and interesting.

In summary, looks are good for ONSs with random girls, money is good for hooking up with desperate women and gold diggers, but personality and status can help you across the board. Status is not equal to money, and is largely personality dependent, though looks and money make achieving a high status easier.


Personally, I technically don't even have looks (due to my height), but I have no trouble having one night stands with average to hot women in the US (from bars, that is...I strike out with online dating). I find it nearly impossible to find a girl that is girlfriend material. And, on the few occasions that I have found one, she is not interested in me. Just something to consider.

I definitely agree that status matters most though. I've known guys as short as me, fat, and facially ugly that have cleaned up with girls because they were fun and popular (which led to them having tons of friends and having status). In my experience (when comparing the three qualities mentioned), looks are a distant second and money doesn't matter at all (unless the guy is INSANELY rich....I've never met someone like this in person so I have no basis of comparison).

Money matters much more for relationships than sex in the western world. Women will rarely marry men of lower socioeconomic status, and such marriages have significantly increased rates of divorce. This all becomes sort of moot when you go abroad, as your economic and social status is nearly always going to be higher than the majority of locals. Extra income abroad doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot though, for varying reasons. Most westerners in SEA seem to be treated as if they are wealthy regardless of income, and expected to pay higher prices and support families because of this illusion of wealth. South Americans that I have dated weren't all that interested in income, as they were middle class girls and made wages that could pass as decent even by American standards. Eastern Europeans are often looking for more of a societal or social change than an economic one. I was never even asked what my career was by girls in EE or SA, aside from one girl who asked a couple weeks into our travels together. These are generalizations though, I would be curious about other men's feelings on the matter.

More income will not make you more attractive, per se, but it can increase your marriage opportunities both by allowing you to appear of higher status (drive around in a Ferrari or Porsche convertible and you'll see what I mean), and by increasing the number of women in your potential dating market that earn less than you do. It is also hard to earn wealth without also earning status, which affords you attendance at exclusive events, a high status social circle, and opportunities to meet high status women. Wealth+status = or > looks, if you have both in appreciable quantities and you have a solid personality. I feel like most men who have wealth that can't get laid are suffering from a deficit in social and networking skills more than anything else.


Drug dealers and sociopaths believe it or not get high quality women. if you ever watch crime documentaries you will always see these people with 7's and 8's even if they are average themselves. I wish it wasn't true but it is.

Here's one sort of example there are better ones. However they seem to have slipped out of my mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzjqV5QcdXg
16:45 of true life im addicted to sex.
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Postby Halwick » Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:17 am

Deformed wrote:your value to women is determined by looks money and status in the following order looks>money>status.

your looks fall into 3 categories aswell
signs of masculinity:
6'2 and above, muscular body, large wrist size, deep voice, wide shoulder to waste ratio, long fingers, shoe size 12 and above.

health and vitality:
-straight teeth (crooked teeth with gaps signify poor bone development)
-no glasses (glasses show a vision impairment, mothers don't want to pass that onto their offspring
-little to no moles(moles show high cancer risk0
-tan skin (pale skin is a sign of anemia)
-10 percent bodyfat

youth and fertility:
- no balding

certain facial ratios
compact midface, left/right symmetry, square jaw, high cheekbones.



money explains itself. Ppl on this forum are alittle obsessed with it and its partly the reason you guys are so successful with foreign women. your money is worth more in other countries.

Status is how socially sharp you are. The more "alpha" you are, the higher your status. also status can equal popularity in high school as well as fame. some popular ugly kids get laid lots in hs but are losers outside of high school because they are no longer in a confined place that allows them to have lots of status( I know a few guys like that)



Very well stated. I've also heard women summarize the above criteria in a man as the "3 H's": Height, Handsome and High Income.
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Postby Maverick » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:43 am

Deformed wrote:
HouseMD wrote:
Maverick wrote:I've been rated, facially, about an 8.5 to 9 on dating sites. However, I'm quite short (5'6). So I guess it all balances out in the end.


HouseMD wrote:
Deformed wrote:your value to women is determined by looks money and status in the following order looks>money>status.

your looks fall into 3 categories aswell
signs of masculinity:
6'2 and above, muscular body, large wrist size, deep voice, wide shoulder to waste ratio, long fingers, shoe size 12 and above.

health and vitality:
-straight teeth (crooked teeth with gaps signify poor bone development)
-no glasses (glasses show a vision impairment, mothers don't want to pass that onto their offspring
-little to no moles(moles show high cancer risk0
-tan skin (pale skin is a sign of anemia)
-10 percent bodyfat

youth and fertility:
- no balding

certain facial ratios
compact midface, left/right symmetry, square jaw, high cheekbones.



money explains itself. Ppl on this forum are alittle obsessed with it and its partly the reason you guys are so successful with foreign women. your money is worth more in other countries.

Status is how socially sharp you are. The more "alpha" you are, the higher your status. also status can equal popularity in high school as well as fame. some popular ugly kids get laid lots in hs but are losers outside of high school because they are no longer in a confined place that allows them to have lots of status( I know a few guys like that)

Eh, I wouldn't say looks are primary. Status really does win the day. The guy I know that has gotten more p***y than anyone I have ever met is obese, poor, balding, and almost 35. And this is in America of all places. But the guy just has a presence- he's the sort of man you're proud to know and associate with, the kind of guy that hosts 200+ person parties and has a solid personality. This guy goes home with a new college age girl basically every other night and has slept with well over 1,000 women. He's just alpha as f**k, guess he was born with it.

Money is a solid but undependable thing, as it cannot guarantee you quality women. It'll get you women, sure, but gold diggers abound. And looks... Looks are important for one night stands, but beyond that, they have diminishing returns. I've been with enough women to be happy, 3 of which were personal 9's. And I'm not a good looking dude, perhaps a 6 or 5.5 (though research pretty much shows that women have a binary rating scale where 10% of men are hot and 90% are average) but I've had a lot of success because I'm shameless, wild, and interesting.

In summary, looks are good for ONSs with random girls, money is good for hooking up with desperate women and gold diggers, but personality and status can help you across the board. Status is not equal to money, and is largely personality dependent, though looks and money make achieving a high status easier.


Personally, I technically don't even have looks (due to my height), but I have no trouble having one night stands with average to hot women in the US (from bars, that is...I strike out with online dating). I find it nearly impossible to find a girl that is girlfriend material. And, on the few occasions that I have found one, she is not interested in me. Just something to consider.

I definitely agree that status matters most though. I've known guys as short as me, fat, and facially ugly that have cleaned up with girls because they were fun and popular (which led to them having tons of friends and having status). In my experience (when comparing the three qualities mentioned), looks are a distant second and money doesn't matter at all (unless the guy is INSANELY rich....I've never met someone like this in person so I have no basis of comparison).

Money matters much more for relationships than sex in the western world. Women will rarely marry men of lower socioeconomic status, and such marriages have significantly increased rates of divorce. This all becomes sort of moot when you go abroad, as your economic and social status is nearly always going to be higher than the majority of locals. Extra income abroad doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot though, for varying reasons. Most westerners in SEA seem to be treated as if they are wealthy regardless of income, and expected to pay higher prices and support families because of this illusion of wealth. South Americans that I have dated weren't all that interested in income, as they were middle class girls and made wages that could pass as decent even by American standards. Eastern Europeans are often looking for more of a societal or social change than an economic one. I was never even asked what my career was by girls in EE or SA, aside from one girl who asked a couple weeks into our travels together. These are generalizations though, I would be curious about other men's feelings on the matter.

More income will not make you more attractive, per se, but it can increase your marriage opportunities both by allowing you to appear of higher status (drive around in a Ferrari or Porsche convertible and you'll see what I mean), and by increasing the number of women in your potential dating market that earn less than you do. It is also hard to earn wealth without also earning status, which affords you attendance at exclusive events, a high status social circle, and opportunities to meet high status women. Wealth+status = or > looks, if you have both in appreciable quantities and you have a solid personality. I feel like most men who have wealth that can't get laid are suffering from a deficit in social and networking skills more than anything else.


Drug dealers and sociopaths believe it or not get high quality women. if you ever watch crime documentaries you will always see these people with 7's and 8's even if they are average themselves. I wish it wasn't true but it is.

Here's one sort of example there are better ones. However they seem to have slipped out of my mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzjqV5QcdXg
16:45 of true life im addicted to sex.


I think we define "high quality" differently. High quality girls, according to my definition, would not date drug dealers and sociopaths.

There's more to quality than looks, my friend. Way more.
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Postby Ghost » Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:26 pm

I'm a 5 or 6 I suppose. I'm also fat, but tall. My hair is also thinner than it used to be. Asian women on dating sites almost always tell me I'm handsome. And when asked why, they usually say it is because of blue eyes, white skin, "pointy" nose, height, etc. My weight doesn't seem to be a big issue to any of them. And I go from average to attractive, although even in the States several years ago I would occasionally get compliments that I'm handsome.
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