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What do you think about concubines?

Postby Tsar » Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:34 am

According to Wikipedia, Polygyny is a form of plural marriage in which a man is allowed more than one wife. A man can not be legally married to multiple women in most countries, but a man could take unofficial wives and man take concubines. He can have multiple girlfriends that could live with him and he could support them as long as they remain de facto wives.

Would you take concubines if you had a girlfriend or wife that would accept it?

Do you think that it would be good to have both a wife and a concubine? Increased competition and healthy competition, and both know that they should keep you happy or risk you turning away for the other. It would also give them a friend ( each other) and allow you to keep tabs on each of them if you are away at work.

There shouldn't be any problems as long as both are treated equally and given equal time and affection. Being able to support them would also be something that would be a requirement of taking concubines.

A man is capable of loving two women equally. A women loves her first love the most and each time she has a new boyfriend or has sex with someone else, she becomes less and less able to bond or love. A man can always love two women equally.
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Re: What do you think about concubines?

Postby zboy1 » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:03 am

Tsar wrote:According to Wikipedia, Polygyny is a form of plural marriage in which a man is allowed more than one wife. A man can not be legally married to multiple women in most countries, but a man could take unofficial wives and man take concubines. He can have multiple girlfriends that could live with him and he could support them as long as they remain de facto wives.

Would you take concubines if you had a girlfriend or wife that would accept it?

Do you think that it would be good to have both a wife and a concubine? Increased competition and healthy competition, and both know that they should keep you happy or risk you turning away for the other. It would also give them a friend ( each other) and allow you to keep tabs on each of them if you are away at work.

There shouldn't be any problems as long as both are treated equally and given equal time and affection. Being able to support them would also be something that would be a requirement of taking concubines.

A man is capable of loving two women equally. A women loves her first love the most and each time she has a new boyfriend or has sex with someone else, she becomes less and less able to bond or love. A man can always love two women equally.


I may not condone polygamy, prostitution or concubines, but all of it should be legal...who cares what two consenting people do with their bodies--as long as their not hurting other people. Now, in the same way, I don't like mongers, but who am I to tell them what they can or cannot do with females in the bedroom...
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Postby Winston » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:03 pm

I wouldn't mind such an arrangement. But where can you get such an arrangement? Which countries allow it?
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Re: What do you think about concubines?

Postby OutWest » Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:21 pm

zboy1 wrote:
Tsar wrote:According to Wikipedia, Polygyny is a form of plural marriage in which a man is allowed more than one wife. A man can not be legally married to multiple women in most countries, but a man could take unofficial wives and man take concubines. He can have multiple girlfriends that could live with him and he could support them as long as they remain de facto wives.

Would you take concubines if you had a girlfriend or wife that would accept it?

Do you think that it would be good to have both a wife and a concubine? Increased competition and healthy competition, and both know that they should keep you happy or risk you turning away for the other. It would also give them a friend ( each other) and allow you to keep tabs on each of them if you are away at work.

There shouldn't be any problems as long as both are treated equally and given equal time and affection. Being able to support them would also be something that would be a requirement of taking concubines.

A man is capable of loving two women equally. A women loves her first love the most and each time she has a new boyfriend or has sex with someone else, she becomes less and less able to bond or love. A man can always love two women equally.


I may not condone polygamy, p4p or concubines, but all of it should be legal...who cares what two consenting people do with their bodies--as long as their not hurting other people. Now, in the same way, I don't like mongers, but who am I to tell them what they can or cannot do with females in the bedroom...


I do not think that a concubine is anything like hooker...so far as I recall, it is a permanent arrangement...in other words, it allowed men to take what they like, but she was NOT disposable.
That would be far more respectable than what goes on now....
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Postby manly5000 » Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:04 pm

Man I must be about the last man left on earth who passionately hates infidelity, despises casual sex, and only wants one true love to be with for the rest of his life. :?

Feels lonely man.
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Postby OutWest » Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:23 pm

manly5000 wrote:Man I must be about the last man left on earth who passionately hates infidelity, despises casual sex, and only wants one true love to be with for the rest of his life. :?

Feels lonely man.


Haha...don't feel so lonely. The notion of a concubine would be far better than the casual hookups that
go on today in the West. The notion of romantic love is actually pretty rare and relatively a modern creation. Many marriages over the ages have been about economic interests and raising heirs.
A man's fertility and libido may far outlast that of his original wife- so I suspect that
concubines were part of accommodating that reality. Being a concubine for a well-off man might
be far superior to a girl's alternatives. Concubines were not disposable like the pump and dump
Ameriskanks of today.
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Postby manly5000 » Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:57 pm

OutWest wrote: Haha...don't feel so lonely. The notion of a concubine would be far better than the casual hookups that
go on today in the West. The notion of romantic love is actually pretty rare and relatively a modern creation. Many marriages over the ages have been about economic interests and raising heirs.
A man's fertility and libido may far outlast that of his original wife- so I suspect that
concubines were part of accommodating that reality. Being a concubine for a well-off man might
be far superior to a girl's alternatives. Concubines were not disposable like the pump and dump
Ameriskanks of today.


Well as long as there are plenty of pure foreign ladies out there who feel the way I do and only want one guy for their whole entire life, I'm sure I'll manage to overcome the loneliness..... lol. 8)

And yes that kind of arrangement is light years better than American hookup and pump-n-dump culture.

Regarding romantic love, maybe it is a rather recent phenomenon in human history, but man once you've had it for real, you're hooked and never want to go without it again. I was desperately in love with my ex-wife and even now, almost 5 years after things fell apart, I still find myself pining for her and what we used to have. Having had it once already, I absolutely have to find true love again for my life to ever be happy or content.

In a few short months my time will finally come to head abroad and find what I've been missing all this time, but having gone 5 years completely alone in this world has shown me that I could never ever "Ghost". True love is what I'm living for. My life will never be complete, nor will I ever be able to finally put the memories of my ex to rest, until I get the chance to have it again.
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Postby Tsar » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:29 am

manly5000 wrote:Man I must be about the last man left on earth who passionately hates infidelity, despises casual sex, and only wants one true love to be with for the rest of his life. :?

Feels lonely man.


I don't believe in the idea of a "one true love." When I was younger I use to but that's just a myth or a fantasy. There is no such thing as a one true love. There are only people that would make for a great love. People might spend their lives together, be completely faithful, and very much in love but the truth is that such a relationship will always be replaceable and able to be duplicated if you find the right person. It's the sentimental memories and all the investment of one's heart, time, and money that makes it difficult to let go.

If a relationship ended in divorce, there was infidelity, or a breakup then it automatically means there was never true love, if you measure it according to the definition of true love, and it also means that it wasn't a "one true love." The idea of a one true love means that somehow there is only one other person out there in the world, that whatever looks they have don't matter because that person is predestined to be your true lover, and that love is outside of your control. The entire notion is just a romantic plot line for movies to give people something to inspire them or something to aspire towards. The notion of a true love is not grounded in reality. There is never true love, the best that a person can do is to find a great love.

I like the idea of concubines because I wouldn't ever have casual sex and I do feel like I want at least two girls. One ideal girl bride would be nice but having a concubine or two in addition to that would be even better. That way if I need to drop one for bad behavior or because she says she wants to leave, I could show her the door and tell her to never come back and never think that I would help her out again. Then I still have one and I can find a new second. That way I always have the upper-hand and she would know that I keep her around because I love her, but she would know that if she ever crosses the line (or crosses me) then she would be out.

I see having a wife and concubines as practicing fidelity. The man only has the wife and the concubine, or concubines, and is within a committed polygynous relationship. He practices fidelity with them, and they practice fidelity with him.
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Postby manly5000 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:48 am

Tsar wrote:I don't believe in the idea of a "one true love." When I was younger I use to but that's just a myth or a fantasy. There is no such thing as a one true love. There are only people that would make for a great love. People might spend their lives together, be completely faithful, and very much in love but the truth is that such a relationship will always be replaceable and able to be duplicated if you find the right person. It's the sentimental memories and all the investment of one's heart, time, and money that makes it difficult to let go.

If a relationship ended in divorce, there was infidelity, or a breakup then it automatically means there was never true love, if you measure it according to the definition of true love, and it also means that it wasn't a "one true love." The idea of a one true love means that somehow there is only one other person out there in the world, that whatever looks they have don't matter because that person is predestined to be your true lover, and that love is outside of your control. The entire notion is just a romantic plot line for movies to give people something to inspire them or something to aspire towards. The notion of a true love is not grounded in reality. There is never true love, the best that a person can do is to find a great love.

I like the idea of concubines because I wouldn't ever have casual sex and I do feel like I want at least two girls. One ideal girl bride would be nice but having a concubine or two in addition to that would be even better. That way if I need to drop one for bad behavior or because she says she wants to leave, I could show her the door and tell her to never come back and never think that I would help her out again. Then I still have one and I can find a new second. That way I always have the upper-hand and she would know that I keep her around because I love her, but she would know that if she ever crosses the line (or crosses me) then she would be out.

I see having a wife and concubines as practicing fidelity. The man only has the wife and the concubine, or concubines, and is within a committed polygynous relationship. He practices fidelity with them, and they practice fidelity with him.


True love, great love, call it what you want it's all the same to me. Whatever it is that I had with my ex before things went to shit, that is what I want to have again. I won't stop until I find the girl who will give that to me.

If multiple partners/polygamy is what you want, more power to you. Consenting adults should be free to live any kind of romantic or sexual lifestyle that they so choose.

Me, I just want one.
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Postby droid » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:29 am

manly5000 wrote:Me, I just want one.


Wait till you go to a proper location...

Not bashing the concept of love, but another factor might be that being on a dating wasteland -or for whatever reason not having many opportunities-, we try to "secure" the sex and companionship, by "falling" in love.
I think we males sometimes project lust and the need for female acceptance as love. It can get pretty blurry IMO.
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Postby manly5000 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:34 pm

droid wrote:
Wait till you go to a proper location...



Of course. I'm completely off the market here in the USA and with just a few months left until I leave there's no way I'd think about changing that now.
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Postby Jester » Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:41 am

droid wrote:Not bashing the concept of love, but another factor might be that being on a dating wasteland -or for whatever reason not having many opportunities-, we try to "secure" the sex and companionship, by "falling" in love.
I think we males sometimes project lust and the need for female acceptance as love. It can get pretty blurry IMO.


Profound thought. +1
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Postby Jester » Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:49 am

Winston wrote:I wouldn't mind such an arrangement. But where can you get such an arrangement? Which countries allow it?


Seems OK in Mexico and Colombia if in different cities.

Not ideal to be sure.

Same thing among Armenians in Lebanon and Syria. Some women secretly admire the man for doing this (even though yes they are jealous and hurt) but just don't want to be embarrassed in front of peers.

If I do get it done myself I'll let you know. ;)

Thailand... I've seen a local guy traveling with 5 long-term concubines. They were all tame and happy and well-behaved. Yes, of course, he had money. And his legal wife did NOT cross paths with the mia nois.


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Postby Jester » Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:52 am

droid wrote:
manly5000 wrote:Me, I just want one.


Wait till you go to a proper location...


Suggestions?
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Postby manly5000 » Thu Mar 06, 2014 12:57 pm

Jester wrote:
droid wrote:
manly5000 wrote:Me, I just want one.


Wait till you go to a proper location...


Suggestions?


I think he means "somewhere other than the west"...

I say Mexico and Brasil! 8)

And if all else fails... the Philippines.
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