Got PLAYED - now what?

[gsjackson]

Wow, what an interesting thread I'm just picking up, starting with, as pd said, a scintillatingly told narrative.

George Bernard Shaw's views on his characters Eliza Doolittle and Professor Higgins, which were elaborated on more explicitly in his play, Man and Superman: Eliza does love him because he is a real man, in the sense of being engaged with a discipline and the work of moving the world forward in some way. As opposed to some young, fatuous twit like Freddie who can't move mentally beyond mere infatuation. Higgins subjected her to his discipline and a whole new world was opened to her.

(Of course, as a Fabian socialist, Shaw was a reformer and engaged with society in a way that is more or less unthinkable in corrupt oligarchies such as the current U.S. and Mexico.)

Implications for current Jester situation: While game may not be necessary in Mexico (and that was certainly my experience with the only Mexican girl I've dated), command probably is. Stay in the consummate gentleman frame -- that's who you are -- but make up your mind as soon as you can what you want with this girl, and let her know about it in clear terms.

And don't ever have a lapse in self confidence again.

[quito]

don't overdo it with the flowers.. keep it simple.. maybe just 'a' flower.. that should show sweetness without showing that you will put her on too much of a pedestal. just my opinion..

[Jester]

Implications for current Jester situation: While game may not be necessary in Mexico (and that was certainly my experience with the only Mexican girl I've dated), command probably is. Stay in the consummate gentleman frame -- that's who you are -- but make up your mind as soon as you can what you want with this girl, and let her know about it in clear terms.

And don't ever have a lapse in self confidence again.

Thanks.

[Jester]

don't overdo it with the flowers.. keep it simple.. maybe just 'a' flower.. that should show sweetness without showing that you will put her on too much of a pedestal. just my opinion..

Makes sense, can do.

What is etiquette for her mom? Flowers only if invited as a house guest?

[momopi]

OK kinda LOL at myself now,,,
...hurt a little earlier today...
Got played by a 19 year old who was trying to make a long-term bf (beta-type) jealous...
Apparently she just needed a tall White gringo on FB to get her desired result... I guess.
No major damage done, my ego is pretty much just scar tissue anyway these days.
But back to square one.
Here's the narrative:

Look at it this way, had her BF not responded the way that she wanted, she may have broken up with him and you'd probably get some horizontal aerobics exercises as the rebound.

Use the opportunity to hit on her friends and family, if possible.

[Jester]

Look at it this way, had her BF not responded the way that she wanted, she may have broken up with him and you'd probably get some horizontal aerobics exercises as the rebound.

Use the opportunity to hit on her friends and family, if possible.

You are DEFINITELY an "Opportunist"!!

+1

[Jester]

OK kinda LOL at myself now,,,

...hurt a little earlier today...

Got played by a 19 year old who was trying to make a long-term bf (beta-type) jealous...

Apparently she just needed a tall White gringo on FB to get her desired result... I guess.

No major damage done, my ego is pretty much just scar tissue anyway these days.

But back to square one.

Ok to update and close the thread.... she was indeed using me to make young romeo jealous. She is a "good girl" in terms of the physical things, conduct, etc...... but not afraid to flirt a little to se what she can stir up. She has used me to make young romeo step up.

I guess in this ruthless day and age, her behavior is understandable.

Vaya con dios, icha.

Ay otras afuera para mi.

[Jester]

I have another thread "Impressions of Mexico" where I post what I have learned about the country... including the useful conclusions from this episode:

viewtopic.php?p=175515#175515

[Rock]

One more thing I want to add:

"GAME" is NOT needed here (Mexico).

Well maybe not. But young girls in LatAm sure like to play games themselves. Sounds like Mexico is pretty similar in that regard.

[Jester]

One more thing I want to add:

"GAME" is NOT needed here (Mexico).

Well maybe not. But young girls in LatAm sure like to play games themselves. Sounds like Mexico is pretty similar in that regard.

True THAT, my brother. True that.

You're still in Taiwan, right?

Where did you experience los juegos de las chicas latinas?

And do you receive less of that in North and South Asia?

[Rock]

One more thing I want to add:

"GAME" is NOT needed here (Mexico).

Well maybe not. But young girls in LatAm sure like to play games themselves. Sounds like Mexico is pretty similar in that regard.

True THAT, my brother. True that.

You're still in Taiwan, right?

Where did you experience los juegos de las chicas latinas?

And do you receive less of that in North and South Asia?

Colombia. It's easy to get dates with some very young and hot girls. They may take you to meet their parents, brothers and sisters who will welcome you with open arms, make you feel like a million bucks. They will have you thinking you have a real chance. Would never happen in the States! It's magical.

But...I've found the real litmus test boils down to your chemistry with the girl. Does she proactively wanna hold your hand, hug, and kiss you? I don't mean just using that stuff for manipulation but doing it reflexively. Even religious girls there are caliente. If not, it will never really happen between the two of you, not in Colombia anyway. Just a nice illusion, a wonderful dream of what seems possible but actually is not. Pretty similar in Dominican Republic too. I've seen Colombianas almost get married to guys they were not attracted to and had not ever been physical with except perhaps in a reluctant and self forced way. But in the end, they always chicken out when the full brunt of the reality hits them. Is Mexico the same? I don't know. You tell me.

I think some young Colombian girls just love getting some attention from exotic powerful men and like testing their powers over them. Perhaps that's the motivations behind their games? Also, young girls are often confused about what they really want. Society may tell them to go for security and stability while their heart pushes them somewhere different. Since Latinas tend to be passionate creatures, right brain usually wins. Classic left brain vs. right brain conflict. Just my speculation here.

Chinese including Taiwanese are more serious and less prone to mess around like that. They are more robotic and less in tune with the sensual pleasures and Latin style flirting, more subtle and ambiguous in their style. Left brain has more power over many of them. So if a girl in Taiwan takes you to meet her family, it's most likely on! Same with China.

BTW, I've been in Makati for last six weeks and will spend more time here and less in Taiwan going forward.