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Orphans, anyone?

Postby pandabear » Fri May 16, 2014 11:57 am

Scott Mallon put up a recent video dealing with the problems with Thai in-laws.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rSiR-TtfEg[/youtube]

My comment was
A fellow who was going to go this route really should invest some time in studying up on Thai culture in advance. As anyone who has experienced Thailand knows, Thai women are absolutely the most charming women in the world. You could send a Western woman to charm school 8 hours per day for 6 years, and she still wouldn't be as charming as your average Thai harlot. As I understand it, when a Thai woman introduces a man to his parents, there is an expectation of impending marriage. Generally, a Thai woman's first priority in life is to provide the highest possible standard of living for her parents. And, a Thai man (like other Asian men) generally gives his wife his entire paycheck, and she, in turn, gives him a small allowance so that he can go out drinking and whoring with his friends. Parents of girls who are advertising on the internet are generally looking for a huge windfall. If he is still interested in the girl, then he has to stay in control of his assets (very important!) and be ready to negotiate carefully with her and with her parents. He should know what Thai cultural expectations are for the sin sod (maybe 100,000 baht for a university-educated virgin, and absolutely NOTHING for a previously-married woman or a single mother). Few Thai men are going to marry previously-married women or single mothers, and such women carry practically NO value in the local mating market. Such women have little choice but to try to hook a Western man. The 100,000 baht plus the house in the country may have been the parents' initial proposal, and they may have been expecting a counter-offer. Some guys can afford it. From what I understand, foreign sons-in-law have built some nice houses around the Thai countryside. Expectations on the part of parents of pretty girls may be a bit on the high side.

By the way, do you know of any Thai orphanages, from which girls being released at the age of 18 might be looking for husbands? This might be the most practical way to go


So, would it be practical to approach an orphanage, and inquire about girls who were approaching their release date?

I don't think that I've ever heard any complaints about Ukrainian or Russian in-laws--it seems to be mainly Southeast Asian parents who are looking for the big windfall through marrying their daughters off to rich foreigners.

I wonder if orphaned girls are in high demand among Thai and Filipino bachelors? "Yay! I don't have any in-laws to support!" Or, does this not enter their thinking?
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Postby newlifeinphilippines » Fri May 16, 2014 4:32 pm

the girl im with is a borderline orphan in phil. which would explain now why she was moving in with me on the first day. she has real family but they basically abandoned her in her teens so her fake family is there but its not true family so i have no obligation to care or visit or anything. i met her dad but then he went off real quick and is sailing and he has a new wife and family off in the provinces and is pretty out of her life. her mom is completely out of her life and so her sister.


it may explain why my girl has not had many boyfriends and she wasn't as effectionate or loving or jealous as my bargirl even. I thought it was just my imagination but now i realize its probably cause of a family that never gave a shit about her, didn't even go to her high school.

she is slowly opening up to me sexually and losing her attitude but in the beginning she was fairly asexual and had some attitude for a guy who could make her cum and was her first real boyfriend.

so orphans have some emotional baggage and will be very poor and leech off you most likely whereas a girl from agood background will probably not have that issue but then you have to deal with her family. i hate dealing with family so maybe i should stick with her if i want to use her as my multi month blowout girl
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Postby pandabear » Sat May 17, 2014 2:21 am

I should imagine that if her mother and father found out that she had a foreign boyfriend, then they will be coming around eventually to look for handouts. Even if they had abandoned her in her teens. Filipinos tend to be forgiving about things like that.
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Postby Jester » Sat May 17, 2014 2:57 am

pandabear wrote:I should imagine that if her mother and father found out that she had a foreign boyfriend, then they will be coming around eventually to look for handouts. Even if they had abandoned her in her teens. Filipinos tend to be forgiving about things like that.


Mexicans too. Seen it here. Abandoned girl reviving relationship w/ her dad, dragging gringo husband to live near dad's current family.

Gringo son-in-law is a very skilled guy, helped dad build a decent dirt-floor shack.
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Postby newlifeinphilippines » Sat May 17, 2014 6:45 am

pandabear wrote:I should imagine that if her mother and father found out that she had a foreign boyfriend, then they will be coming around eventually to look for handouts. Even if they had abandoned her in her teens. Filipinos tend to be forgiving about things like that.


not my experience. although she wanted me to pay for dinner and a few items for her dad but thats it. hes off sailing now and dont really hear much he has a new family now. her mother is out of the pic but of course she wanted me to take her to dinner if she should ever show up she hasn't seen her in years and is far away. she not even sure where.

once they are out of their life, you have the leverage at that point to keep it that way.
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Re: Orphans, anyone?

Postby publicduende » Sat May 17, 2014 8:43 pm

pandabear wrote:So, would it be practical to approach an orphanage, and inquire about girls who were approaching their release date?


I honestly find these kinds of threads pretty creepy. And not because you're saying you would date a problematic 18 years old, but because you imply that you would enquire with the orphanage staff like a housewife who turns up at a fish market at 5 AM asking for the best catch.

Dude, do you still live in Victorian London? Do you really believe orphans, especially those in their teens, don't go to schools, socialise and date like everyone else? They might well have extra emotional baggage due to the trauma of being abandoned and the hardship of living their childhood in a charity institution. That doesn't mean they don't have a mind of their own and won't kick your arse if they don't like you or your intentions.

What makes you think you would hold a special privilege when knocking on an orphanage door and talking to their carers, as if they were responsible with their girl's dating preferences? If they're professional people worth their salt, the least you could expect is a laugh and the door being slammed into your sorry nose.

If you want to "date an orphan", find a woman who likes you and date her, whether you know her family history or not. If there's love and commitment, she will gradually open up and it will be natural for you to accept both her past, and whatever impact it might still have on her present self. That's what emotionally mature and responsible people (usually) do.
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Postby pandabear » Sun May 18, 2014 12:43 am

On some dating sites, you can do a keyword search for "orphan."

In Southeast Asia, you can walk into a brothel, and pick out a girl to administer your orgasm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNb93TkKGrA[/youtube]

In Singapore, you can go to a store in a mall and pick out a virgin bride--as easily as buying a puppy.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBtfbrnaciQ[/youtube]

Similarly in Cambodia, apparently

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEYu8tIRh6E[/youtube]

So, why wouldn't there be some orphanages looking to marry off orphans who are approaching their release date?

Here is an orphanage in Pattaya

http://www.thepattayaorphanage.org/

Run by Catholics. Which could mean that the kids have been abused.

http://www.northernexpress.com/michigan ... dhood.html
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Postby pandabear » Sun May 18, 2014 12:51 am

Well, some of these orphanages can be quite unscrupulous.

http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-ess ... 2hdk7.html

So, maybe not.
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Postby newlifeinphilippines » Sun May 18, 2014 5:14 am

why arent more guys going the virgin vietnamese wife route in singapore? Vietnamese women are hot
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Re: Orphans, anyone?

Postby Jester » Sun May 18, 2014 6:26 am

publicduende wrote:
pandabear wrote:
So, would it be practical to approach an orphanage, and inquire about girls who were approaching their release date?



I honestly find these kinds of threads pretty creepy. And not because you're saying you would date a problematic 18 years old, but because you imply that you would enquire with the orphanage staff like a housewife who turns up at a fish market at 5 AM asking for the best catch.

Dude, do you still live in Victorian London? Do you really believe orphans, especially those in their teens, don't go to schools, socialise and date like everyone else? They might well have extra emotional baggage due to the trauma of being abandoned and the hardship of living their childhood in a charity institution. That doesn't mean they don't have a mind of their own and won't kick your arse if they don't like you or your intentions.

What makes you think you would hold a special privilege when knocking on an orphanage door and talking to their carers, as if they were responsible with their girl's dating preferences? If they're professional people worth their salt, the least you could expect is a laugh and the door being slammed into your sorry nose.

If you want to "date an orphan", find a woman who likes you and date her, whether you know her family history or not. If there's love and commitment, she will gradually open up and it will be natural for you to accept both her past, and whatever impact it might still have on her present self. That's what emotionally mature and responsible people (usually) do.


Jeez you're a wet blanket sometimes.

No, someone DOESNT have to fall in love first, then discover the baggage later. Yes a guy CAN be deliberate.

The point of the OP was not to victimize emotionally vulnerable girls, the point was to get a Filipina without marrying the whole damn village.

Creepy? Yeah till it WORKS. Then it's brilliant.

Definitely not creepy from a girls' POV. They'd be peering out, checking the guy out, giggling.

My first sales manager told me a story about how in college he and his pals took a road trip to a girls college. He was the leader, led them into a girls dorm. They were allowed into the lobby only. He hollered upstairs: "I need five girls to go drink beer, down here in five minutes". He said the girls all crowded around the rail of the balcony, checking the guys out.

He got his five girls.

Who dares, at least has a chance.
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Postby Jester » Sun May 18, 2014 6:51 am

newlifeinphilippines wrote:why arent more guys going the virgin vietnamese wife route in singapore? Vietnamese women are hot


To be honest I had seen that video before, liked it, but wasn't sure that this was even open to a "Westerner".

I guess that's kind of stupid, why wouldn't it be? Chinese people like money!
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Postby Jester » Sun May 18, 2014 7:02 am

pandabear wrote:Well, some of these orphanages can be quite unscrupulous.

http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-ess ... 2hdk7.html

So, maybe not.



It's not just SEA.

This same shit goes on in California. You buy a big house with a lot of bedrooms, register as an orphanage, and the California government gives you "foster kids" and pays you by the head.

Other countries too. Christians will open an orphanage, call it a "school", let parents bring their kids in. The parents cant feed all their children, look up to the well-dressd White Christians. So it seems like a good deal. In the mid-1980's, I saw one contract the parents had to sign, it might have been in India. They had to promise not to try to see the children too often. Even at the time, it seemed odd to me.

People who open orphanages are often greedy scum. And are comfortable undermining family relationships. At least not all are molestors.

Anyway I don't see that the scumminess of a school or orphange reflects on the young ladies graduating.
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Postby Jester » Sun May 18, 2014 7:06 am

pandabear wrote:
On some dating sites, you can do a keyword search for "orphan."



Which dating sites do you know of that have keyword searches?
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Postby Jester » Sun May 18, 2014 7:10 am

pandabear wrote:
...pick out a virgin bride--as easily as buying a puppy... Similarly in Cambodia, apparently

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEYu8tIRh6E[/youtube]



OMG I am in heaven!
:shock: :D :shock: :P :shock: :D :idea:
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Postby Jester » Sun May 18, 2014 7:21 am

Jester wrote:
pandabear wrote:
...pick out a virgin bride--as easily as buying a puppy... Similarly in Cambodia, apparently

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEYu8tIRh6E[/youtube]



OMG I am in heaven!
:shock: :D :shock: :P :shock: :D :idea:


EDIT: hmmmm... something odd. According to the video above, the fat old French mailman married his Khmer hottie in late 2011. But according to this video below, the Cambodian government had already banned marriages to over 50 men in March 2011.

Maybe the above video was posted on YouTube long after it was made? Or else the law didn't go into effect right away. Or the law can be ignored?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12802339
[youtube]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12802339[/youtube]
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