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Why Marriage is Better than Fornicating/Mongering

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Why Marriage is Better than Fornicating/Mongering

Postby MrMan » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:43 am

There are lots of bad effects of fornicating. Sexual intercourse is a reproductive activity. Condoms are supposed to be about the best form of birth control that also protect against (some) STDs, but they aren't 100% effective (and what's the point if one wears a condom? It's only about 10% as good as the real thing.) You could end up with some girl bearing your baby across the world that you don't know about or raise. That's a bad thing to do to her and to the child who grows up not knowing his dad, who didn't care about him or her or love him/her. That's an unethical thing to do.

So what kind of damaging can whoremongering (or 'mongering') whether one pays for it or not, do?

The poor girl bonds with this intense experience that involves the release of hormones. She develops feelings for the guy. He leaves or she sees him with another girl. She's heart broken. The man who seduces her just messes her up that much more, leaving her for whoever marries her.

Taking a girl's virginity is also a violation. She may give it up willingly, but at a vulnerable point that some player brings her to by manipulation. Then, in a lot of goods, she's damaged goods. And she has to live her life with potentially a sub-par husband to what she could have had before.

Prostitutes in some cases start out as sex slave children. Or they may be 18-year-olds who got kicked out of the house, or teens that ran away. In a very desperate state, they engage in prostitution to feed themselves. Some of them are basically slaves, and if they don't bring the money to a mafia man (he may be two-bit mafia), then they face physical harm. Paying a prostitute can keep this industry going.

Really, who wants to have sex with a woman in whom so many other men have deposited their liquid biological material? Some of those prostitutes have sex with multiple guys in the day. The material is still there fresh and another guy comes into contact with it. Or if condoms are used, there is still skin, hair, lice, and sweat. It's disgusting if you think about it.

I heard a guy in Indonesia say, "I don't want a second-hand woman." There is still a (sane and reasonable) preference for virgins there.

Maybe some guys enjoy having variety, different women time after time. But these guys probably expend either a great deal of effort 'gaming' women, or else spend money hiring women with well-used bodies with a high risk of disease and contribute potentially to mafias and the exploitation of other human beings.

Marriage is the best option. It's possible to find a woman who takes care of a man's sexual needs on an ongoing basis, whose faithful, and stays with her man. I doubt prostitutes are going to cook for you. They probably aren't going to stick around and raise your children. Prostitutes don't mop your floor. They don't listen to you when you want to talk about something, or help you achieve your life goals or objectives. They don't greet you at the door day after day with a kiss.

If you are concerned with sex, you can set expectations with a woman you are dating even if she is a virgin. You can tell her you expect sex so many times a week. You can even frame it like this, I'm unusual. I'll have a sexual need of X times a week, and I need to marry a woman who can meet my needs. Some women may find that a lot to ask for. I'm dating to find a wife, and that's one reason I've stayed with you for so long. But I want to be fair to you, and if you are the type who won't be willing to engage in sex that often, I can let you go on your way.

There is more to a relationship than sex, and when you are 60 or 70, it may not be as big of a deal, though it will probably still be a component of the relationship.

Anyway, marriage as a place for sexual fulfillment is a lot better than mongering for a number of reasons, ethical, practical, and health-wise.
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Postby C.J. » Sun Aug 03, 2014 12:30 pm

That's why I don't deal with Asian women outside of the more traditional parts of Europe. Or females overall for that matter!

The problem with marriage is that it's basically a man-killing contract in most places. That's why I'm searching for a true killer queen who can make a marriage worthwhile. :D
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Postby tamdrin12 » Sun Aug 03, 2014 3:22 pm

MrMan.. you bring up a lot of good points... Thanks for taking the time to write this.. I hope the thoughtful men will consider these points.. I certainly will
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Postby Tsar » Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:03 pm

I will only accept a youthful girl that is also a virgin. If a girl gives a guy a bj then she isn't a virgin because that is still a form of sex and fornication. Only a girl that is a true virgin and has her youth would be almost a perfect bride. Watching porn video videos can also be an educating experience because most girls do that, but the only difference is they don't do it on camera. Most girls are sluts and the cum dumpsters for a small group of men, they are no different than amateur porn stars and sometimes even the professional porn stars. Binge drinking, one night stand, and dozens of different partners throughout high school and college. There is no difference between the typical girl (typical girl is a slut) and a porn star (slut, whore). No self-respecting man would want a slut or a whore as a wife. Would you want to kiss a girl that gave a bj to one or one dozen or one hundred other men? It isn't shallow to want a youthful, virgin girl that would be able to bond and truly appreciate and genuinely love the man that she's with. Girls that lose their virginity, fornicate with many different men, and are a slut cannot bond with a man. Those are some reasons why I will only accept, be with, and marry a youthful virgin girl. I would never settle and never compromise my values or abandon the self-respect I have for myself. I will only accept a youthful, beautiful, virgin girl.
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Postby Halwick » Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:22 am

Anyone who is contemplating marriage or a long-term relationship with a woman ought to brush up on BRIFFAULT’S LAW - the Rosetta Stone of Women's Behavior. I wish I had heard about it when I was younger. Although the article was found on Thai-centric website, the message applies equally to just about any woman, regardless of nationality.

http://www.stickmanweekly.com/ReadersSu ... er5546.htm

If by now you are still contemplating marriage to that Filipina, Thai or whatever, ask yourself what "collateral" does your foreign love bring to the table, as the following article recommends?

http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/ReadersS ... er8793.htm

Again, although written with Thailand in mind, I found it could just as easily apply to the Philippines, Latin America or just about any foreign country.
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Postby sea_dragon » Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:56 am

Tsar wrote:I will only accept a youthful girl that is also a virgin. If a girl gives a guy a bj then she isn't a virgin because that is still a form of sex and fornication. Only a girl that is a true virgin and has her youth would be almost a perfect bride. Watching p**n video videos can also be an educating experience because most girls do that, but the only difference is they don't do it on camera. Most girls are sluts and the cum dumpsters for a small group of men, they are no different than amateur p**n stars and sometimes even the professional p**n stars. Binge drinking, one night stand, and dozens of different partners throughout high school and college. There is no difference between the typical girl (typical girl is a slut) and a p**n star (slut, whore). No self-respecting man would want a slut or a whore as a wife. Would you want to kiss a girl that gave a bj to one or one dozen or one hundred other men? It isn't shallow to want a youthful, virgin girl that would be able to bond and truly appreciate and genuinely love the man that she's with. Girls that lose their virginity, fornicate with many different men, and are a slut cannot bond with a man. Those are some reasons why I will only accept, be with, and marry a youthful virgin girl. I would never settle and never compromise my values or abandon the self-respect I have for myself. I will only accept a youthful, beautiful, virgin girl.

This is why I am driven mad with the whole idea of marriage. Why should I have to be married to a filthy, dirty slut and whore? She is not worthy of being a bride and if I had to be married to one, then she should be made guilty of such evils. Nothing more than damaged and used goods that nobody truly wants. Worthless and completely defiled by the touch of another man. Non-virgins at marriage should learn that they are not free from guilt, that they are truly without any sense of worth nor honor.

Sexual liberation and other such derivatives of cultural marxism are disgusting cancers that should be expunged from the world.
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Postby MrMan » Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:49 am

sea_dragon wrote:Non-virgins at marriage should learn that they are not free from guilt, that they are truly without any sense of worth nor honor.


Are you a virgin then?
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Postby drealm » Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:56 am

The main benefits I see of having a wife over mongering:

1. A wife is the one person you can be 100% transparent with. Everyone else expects you to act to some degree.

2. A wife energizes a man to figure out how to make more money.

3. A wife will have sex without condoms. Hoes don't offer this. And if they do, they usually have STD's.
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Postby Winston » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:15 am

Those are great reasons. However, what if you get tired of your wife? What if the sex gets boring and you can't get hard anymore? Most women also suck in bed and aren't passionate like in the movies.

What do you do then? Is the solution to try to marry the hottest woman so you don't lose your sexual desire for her?
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Postby Ghost » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:21 am

Winston wrote:Those are great reasons. However, what if you get tired of your wife? What if the sex gets boring and you can't get hard anymore? Most women also suck in bed and aren't passionate like in the movies.

What do you do then? Is the solution to try to marry the hottest woman so you don't lose your sexual desire for her?


Husbands should be free to see hoes on the side.
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Postby Winston » Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:17 am

Ghost wrote:
Winston wrote:Those are great reasons. However, what if you get tired of your wife? What if the sex gets boring and you can't get hard anymore? Most women also suck in bed and aren't passionate like in the movies.

What do you do then? Is the solution to try to marry the hottest woman so you don't lose your sexual desire for her?


Husbands should be free to see hoes on the side.


Why? Isn't that unfair to the women? lol

Btw, get this. Fschmidt told me that the Bible actually allows men to see prostitutes, even married men, and says it's ok!

Fschmidt, where is the Bible verse that says that? Can you quote it?
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Postby jamesbond » Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:21 pm

Winston wrote:
Ghost wrote:
Winston wrote:Those are great reasons. However, what if you get tired of your wife? What if the sex gets boring and you can't get hard anymore? Most women also suck in bed and aren't passionate like in the movies.

What do you do then? Is the solution to try to marry the hottest woman so you don't lose your sexual desire for her?


Husbands should be free to see hoes on the side.


Btw, get this. Fschmidt told me that the Bible actually allows men to see hoes, even married men, and says it's ok!

I have also heard it said that the bible does gives allowances for married men to see hoes if their wives are not 'putting out' for them.

It makes sense to me, a man needs to get his sexual needs met and if his wife doesn't want to meet them, the man should be allowed to see hoes.
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Postby fschmidt » Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:19 pm

Winston wrote:Btw, get this. Fschmidt told me that the Bible actually allows men to see hoes, even married men, and says it's ok!

Fschmidt, where is the Bible verse that says that? Can you quote it?


Proverbs recommends seeing a prostitute instead of chasing another man's wife:

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For a prostitute's fee is only a loaf of bread,
but an adulteress goes after a precious life.
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Proverbs 6:26

(Note that this forum can't tolerate the "profanity" of the Bible and so changed a key word.)

Prostitution is mentioned many times in the Old Testament and is never condemned. Judah went to prostitute and Rahab was a prostitute who was a hero in the story of Joshua.
Following the Old Testament, not evil modern culture
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Postby chanta76 » Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:23 pm

I think allot of guys are hunged up on the sex part. In marriage it's more than sex..it's more about having a partner for life. A good wife is someone that will support you in whatever you choose to do in life and maybe bring out the best in you.

But for the guys that post here we are some what a special case. I really think for guys who are hunged up on sex ..maybe marriage is not for them unless you marry a girl that is open to an open relationship. Traditional women will not do that.

Being married myself there is good points and bad points. I really think some guys are meant to be a family man where as other guys are not. Just like women are meant to be wives or some women are meant to be more like hoes.
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Postby MrMan » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:48 pm

fschmidt wrote:
Winston wrote:Btw, get this. Fschmidt told me that the Bible actually allows men to see hoes, even married men, and says it's ok!

Fschmidt, where is the Bible verse that says that? Can you quote it?


Proverbs recommends seeing a hoe instead of chasing another man's wife:

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For a hoe's fee is only a loaf of bread,
but an adulteress goes after a precious life.
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Proverbs 6:26

(Note that this forum can't tolerate the "profanity" of the Bible and so changed a key word.)

Prostitution is mentioned many times in the Old Testament and is never condemned. Judah went to hoe and Rahab was a hoe who was a hero in the story of Joshua.


Proverbs does not recommend prostitutes, even in that verse. You are also very dependent on the way the translator interprets the wording.

the KJV puts it this way,
For by means of a whorish woman a man is brought to a piece of bread: and the adulteress will hunt for the precious life.


Translations seem to be split between the two interpretations, neither of which encourage prostitution.
http://biblehub.com/proverbs/6-26.htm

Sometimes, the same phrase can be interpreted different ways.
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