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Why are foreign women agencies-for-pay still around?

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Why are foreign women agencies-for-pay still around?

Postby MatureDJ » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:13 pm

It seems that these days, there are a plethora of free international dating sites, and women everywhere have access to the internet. A decade ago, I could agree with the premise that few women had regular access to the internet, and the only way that the typical woman could proffer a profile and communicate with a man would be via the internet - but now, no way. I suppose that I could see an agency offering the service of translation, but even then, with Google Translate, a decent enough translation could be done without a problem.

Aside from helping to arrange travel - either as travel to a city to meet women already communicated with, or a tour - and perhaps to weed out scammers (in as much as an agency could do so), paid agencies have basically lost their raison d'être. And of course, agencies do try to use IMBRA as FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) to keep clients paying - even though IMBRA only applies to *pay* agencies, and then only those whose main business is between US citizens & foreigners. (On a side note, I have inquired via my Congressmen about how the immigration process would actually be stymied if an agency did not do due diligence for a client; in all cases, I have told that I cannot be given an answer to such a "hypothetical" question. I have yet to hear of anyone sponsoring an immigrant fiancee/spouse who met via an agency subject to IMBRA in which the agency did not do proper diligence, and believe that the only party that can suffer any consequences would be the principals of the agency.)

I am wondering if a woman considering meeting a foreign man simply reads about a "marriage agency" and signs up there, thinking that it would only be through such an agency that a foreign man could be found (i.e., any regular internet site would get plenty of attention from local men that would be undesired) - or perhaps would actually like the idea that the men pay, so as to ensure that they are not poor or cheap, etc.

Of course, the most sinister reason for the continuation of agencies is that they are B.S., and just get photos of attractive women that clients think that they are corresponding with, but instead have a bunch of fat, older women writing letters back, charging a fee for every letter. With that said, there are a few truly honest ones like KhersonGirls.com, but the prices there have gone into the theatre of the absurd ($99 to get contact info - WTF?)
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Postby fschmidt » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:30 pm

There is actually a very good reason to have men pay for international dating sites. The reason is that many men are just attention whores who will waste women's time and will never bother to actually get on a plane and visit the women. Making men pay for the service tends to screen out such worthless men. For the international dating service that I am developing, I plan to allow women to decide for themselves if they want to restrict communications to paying men, and then men can decide if they want to pay to get access to these women.
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Postby xiongmao » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:42 pm

Agencies like AFA are still doing OK. Free sites are just so full of scammers, and they don't provide the hand holding you'll need to go to somewhere like China for the first time.

Also online translation tools are rubbish (Chinese <=> English loses tenses, Thai <=> English is just gibberish).

If you've got the cash it's definitely worth using an introduction agency.
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Postby droid » Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:43 am

Some guys just want to click and think they'll have all the grunt-work done for them. I would think it's the same type of personality of those that take the two-story bus guided tours, instead of walking around and improvising a bit.

Less competition for the rest of us I guess.
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Postby MrPeabody » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:34 am

The same women can register on a free site and a paid site. And agencies don't screen women. LOL. They also like bait who are hot looking and bring in cash from gullible men and don't take down their pictures long after they have left. The marriage agency business makes the used car salesmen look good. Stay away.
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Postby momopi » Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:46 pm

A full service agency is supposed to do the necessary background checks on prospective candidates. By the time that you are presented with a list, they should already have been pre-screened.

At minimum, this means verification of the person's name, age, health, education, occupation/income, martial status/history, religion, physical characteristics, etc. A more extensive background check may include the person's family health & history, criminal records, social standing & lineage (where applicable), STD screening, etc. This would be applicable to both sides.

I have female friends who requested introduction (hook up) and their requirements specify that the guy must not have been married (not divorced) and his parents must not have divorced (not from a divorced family). Getting a divorce is seen as a "character flaw" by traditionalists, and in some Asian companies, men are passed over from advancements and promotions if they were unmarried or divorced.
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Postby Paloaltoguy » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:50 pm

The only people who STILL use agencies are washed-up OLD men and retards. Free international dating sites are boring copy n paste garbage with no real incentives for women. That's why they are loaded with dicks and trolls. Couch surfing is probably the best site for getting international ass(that says a lot). That's why my language site is going to kill it. The website provides a platform for people to improve their language skills by basically dating a foreigner. Girls will be recruited at local colleges and screened right there. If they are approved, they get $10 in local currency and told how a popular language host can make over $500 USD a month by chatting with well-off paid members. Plus possible fees from an exclusive sponsor. An exclusive sponsor is like a boyfriend. That's actually how it works in Ukraine for older men. They sponsor a young girl for sex. I can't believe no one has thought of this lol f***ing stupid uncreative retards. :lol:
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Postby Paloaltoguy » Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:05 pm

fschmidt wrote:There is actually a very good reason to have men pay for international dating sites. The reason is that many men are just attention whores who will waste women's time and will never bother to actually get on a plane and visit the women. Making men pay for the service tends to screen out such worthless men. For the international dating service that I am developing, I plan to allow women to decide for themselves if they want to restrict communications to paying men, and then men can decide if they want to pay to get access to these women.


:lol:

P.S. your site sounds really boring :wink:
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Postby publicduende » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:49 pm

Paloaltoguy wrote:An exclusive sponsor is like a boyfriend. That's actually how it works in Ukraine for older men. They sponsor a young girl for sex. I can't believe no one has thought of this lol f***ing stupid uncreative retards. :lol:


LOL yeah you stupid creative retard, it's called sugardaddying and it has been around since the dawn of mankind.

There are half a dozen sites who have been trying to monetise from the trend, but heaven only knows if they have been successful.
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Postby Paloaltoguy » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:19 am

publicduende wrote:
Paloaltoguy wrote:An exclusive sponsor is like a boyfriend. That's actually how it works in Ukraine for older men. They sponsor a young girl for sex. I can't believe no one has thought of this lol f***ing stupid uncreative retards. :lol:


LOL yeah you stupid creative retard, it's called sugardaddying and it has been around since the dawn of mankind.

There are half a dozen sites who have been trying to monetise from the trend, but heaven only knows if they have been successful.
The biggest (if self-referential) success is this one. http://www.misstravel.com/


Lol, I'm talking about my whole concept you silly ape. Misstravel, etc, etc have all the GRACE and subtlety of your avg geek. That's why none of them have been successful. My idea has heart and soul that seduces the senses like the Iphone back in 2007. A truly a holistic system where all pieces support each other to create a harmonious picture. When you have this kind of picture, the product will seem much simpler and useful. Without this picture all you have is a jumble of pieces, each one demanding your attention = THROW UP
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