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Woman Complains That Men Don't Ask Women Out Anymore

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Woman Complains That Men Don't Ask Women Out Anymore

Postby jamesbond » Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:42 am

Ladies, it’s been said before, but I’ll say it again: They just don’t make ’em like they used to.

There’s no door-holding, no hand-holding and definitely no free drinks. There’s no taking off hats or courting through invitations. There are no smooth moves, no jackets to dinner. There are no flowers, no tables by candlelight. But, most importantly, there are no dates.

If you’re a single woman, you probably envisioned your twenties as a roaring social scene full of expensive dinners and lavish nights out. You probably thought you’d have a boyfriend, or at least a few dates a week.

You probably thought you’d meet a guy at a bar and that he’d ask for your number. You probably thought you’d be on your way to dinner next week.

After too many nights spent in bars and one too many phone numbers given out, you’ve probably realized the sad truth of the situation. You’re not going on any dates or being courted in any type of manner because, unfortunately, men these days are cowards.

They’ll make eye contact with you in the bar, but never come over. They’ll get your number, but never call. They’ll offer to buy you a drink, but never pay.

They’ll say a girl is hot, but never hit on her. They’ll text you for a week, but never ask you out. They’ll do absolutely everything but make a move.

I’ve watched men pine over women, talking about them like future wives, yet after staring at them for two hours, let them walk away.

I’ve watched men chase women down for their phone numbers, yet wait a week to text them, acting like it’s something they simply forgot about. I’ve watched men spend an entire night talking to a girl, yet never get up the nerve to ask for her number.

We’re dealing with a new breed of men here and it’s not the kind we grew up dreaming about. It’s the want-what-I-want-but-don’t-know-how-to-get-it type; it’s the sweet and cuddly mama’s boys who grow up terrified of making the first move; it’s the guys who have so much to say but don’t know how to say it.

Now, the unfortunate paradox for a woman is that she must be the chased and the chaser. She must be the target and the shooter. She must play coy and simultaneously pursue him.

Anyone notice the problem here? Yet again, women are left to do all the work. We’re left playing both sides of the game because they’ve simply forgotten how to play.

It stems from a number of factors, but most prominently from the fact that men don’t know what the hell they want from us. They want the virgin and the whore. The want the slut and the good girl. They want the girl who’s hard to get, but they don’t know how to get her.

Because they don’t know what they want, they end up chasing nothing. It’s the dilemma of the overcrowded buffet. There are too many options so they choose an empty plate… or something they don’t even like to begin with.

This leaves women making all the moves. We must tell them what they want if we’re to get anywhere close to the goals we had for ourselves. But it will never be as we fully imagined because, in our dreams, men weren’t timid or scared little boys; in our dreams, men are the ones with the balls to ask us out.

They’re scared of you

They’ll never admit it, but you scare the hell out of them. After years of social conditioning, we’ve been duped into thinking that men are the strong ones; that they are the leaders, the protectors and the fighters; that they are the ones that see what they want and go after it.

Well, TV lied to you. Men aren’t these masculine displays of strength and perseverance. They aren’t these persistent characters created by Nicholas Sparks and John Green. They aren’t going to catch your eye and spend all night convincing you why you should be with them. They aren’t Noah Calhouns. They aren’t Augustus Waters.

Men are shy, timid and scared sh*tless of any woman with half a brain.

It’s said that the male ego is as fragile as a woman’s heart and unfortunately for women, men won’t take the chance of letting it shatter. While women willingly put themselves out there, men stand back, scared of the tiniest bruise on their overinflated self-image. So yet again, women must be the strong ones. We must put ourselves out there and risk rejection. Because if we don’t do it, bars will soon be exactly like those middle school dances: boys on one side, girls on the other.

They got it from their mamas

Why are men like this? Well, for years they’ve been raised by their mamas, the women who told them they were the best thing God created on this earth. For years, they’ve been given everything on a silver platter — up until the end of college when they were picking up women who just threw up their jungle juice.

Of course, some mothers have raised great men. This isn’t to discredit the generation of mothers before us who raised the myriad of young men we’re dealing with today. But for the select few who didn’t teach them how to properly court a woman, well, shame on you.

Shame on you for not teaching them how to properly approach a woman. Shame on you for giving them the idea that women must go to them. Shame on you for making them believe all they had to do was stand at a bar and wait for a girl to appear on their arm.

They think there’s always someone better

In the society in which we live today, with Gigi Hadid and Miranda Kerr’s Instagrams readily accessible, women have got a lot to compete with. Fortunately, we’re competing with women these men will never have a shot with. Unfortunately, these men don’t seem to know this.

We can dream about Channing Tatum and Chris Pine all we want, but at least women are rational enough to understand that’s just not gonna happen. So we settle for the options we’ve been given and learn to work with what we have.

Men, on the other hand, always seem to be waiting for something better. In the age of Facebook and Instagram, there’s this constant filtered delusion that a hotter girl sits just an inbox away.

Men also know that if they don’t get up the nerve to ask you out, all they have to do is swipe right on Tinder to skip the date and get right to the good stuff.

They never grew up

To add insult to the few dates you have yet to be asked on, men are also getting married less than ever before. According to a study by Pew Research Center, only 26 percent of Generation-Y is married.

Compared to the 48 percent of our parents at this age, there’s no denying that men just don’t have their sh*t together.

We’re dating less and thus, marrying less. And the downfall picks up speed with every failed attempt to ask a woman out.


http://elitedaily.com/dating/men-pssies-women-need-start-asking-men-dates/746965/
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Re: Woman Complains That Men Don't Ask Women Out Anymore

Postby Yohan » Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:55 am

The only good thing with this feminist drivel are the follow-up comments. Most readers disagree with the author.

You need to be seriously misguided by feminist ideology to be able to write such a drivel as this report.

Men are worried to ask women out, if you approach a Western woman, especially in USA, you never know what is next. Maybe a cop is showing up and arrests you because of 'sexual harassment' or similar BS, and why even to try? If you cannot fulfill her financial demands you are out anyway. It also should be noticed that such women have often already multiple boyfriends, but no one of them is good enough for their needs as they do not know how to treat a woman as she deserves to be treated... etc. etc.

This all makes no sense, the best is either stay alone and have nothing to do with these kind of women - or look for a foreign wife and even better, consider relocation in a country where men are treated better and not as 2nd class citizens.
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Re: Woman Complains That Men Don't Ask Women Out Anymore

Postby IraqVet2003 » Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:15 pm

Yohan wrote:The only good thing with this feminist drivel are the follow-up comments. Most readers disagree with the author.

You need to be seriously misguided by feminist ideology to be able to write such a drivel as this report.

Men are worried to ask women out, if you approach a Western woman, especially in USA, you never know what is next. Maybe a cop is showing up and arrests you because of 'sexual harassment' or similar BS, and why even to try? If you cannot fulfill her financial demands you are out anyway. It also should be noticed that such women have often already multiple boyfriends, but no one of them is good enough for their needs as they do not know how to treat a woman as she deserves to be treated... etc. etc.

This all makes no sense, the best is either stay alone and have nothing to do with these kind of women - or look for a foreign wife and even better, consider relocation in a country where men are treated better and not as 2nd class citizens.


Yohan, I agree with you 100%!!!
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Re: Woman Complains That Men Don't Ask Women Out Anymore

Postby jamesbond » Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:53 pm

This guy made a video response to the woman who wrote the article.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iea803h1GQ0[/youtube]
"When I think about the idea of getting involved with an American woman, I don't know if I should laugh .............. or vomit!"

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Re: Woman Complains That Men Don't Ask Women Out Anymore

Postby mattyman » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:35 pm

Gosh, she sounds a bit bitter, here's what I would say;
After too many nights spent in bars and one too many phone numbers given out, you’ve probably realized the sad truth of the situation. You’re not going on any dates or being courted in any type of manner because, unfortunately, men these days are cowards.

Hmm, wouldn't jump to that conclusion so fast, perhaps it's your attitude that scares them off. Would take a look at yourself first. After all, men are advised to do just that all the time. Fortunately, I can say this stuff in a forum like this and not be bitched-at.
They’ll make eye contact with you in the bar, but never come over. They’ll get your number, but never call.

Maybe they're too indoctrinated by pick-u crap and over-analising (I'm not defending this foul attitude, but criticising something I feel is ruining men, and might be the only validity in this, albeit, with a very negative spin), 'can't say that, she'll think I'm weird, she'll think I'm despreate, needy etc. if I call too soon. I can't just talk to her, got to think of the perfect lines, got to say the right thing, must be seen as 'alpha'. She's hot, she gets approached only by 'alpha' men, she wouldn't never give me the time of day (which is rubbish).

We’re dealing with a new breed of men here and it’s not the kind we grew up dreaming about. It’s the want-what-I-want-but-don’t-know-how-to-get-it type; it’s the sweet and cuddly mama’s boys who grow up terrified of making the first move; it’s the guys who have so much to say but don’t know how to say it.

If it's any consolation to you, might I suggest that you try to understand where they're coming from, rather than venting your own negative spins to the rest of the world. I wonder why you're getting the results from men you're complaining about? Shouldn't you look st yourself first? After all, men with the same gripes are advised to do just that regarding women. Try not to fall into the trap of generalising about an entire gender of the human race. If you believe in equality, then I believe I have a fair point, and that women should take as much responsibility as men do. We're all the same when it comes to these things.

Anyone notice the problem here? Yet again, women are left to do all the work. We’re left playing both sides of the game because they’ve simply forgotten how to play.

Sounds exactly like the same complaints men have about women. Projection onto an entire gender, narrating and blaming ways one gender has it easier.

It stems from a number of factors, but most prominently from the fact that men don’t know what the hell they want from us. They want the virgin and the whore. The want the slut and the good girl. They want the girl who’s hard to get, but they don’t know how to get her.

The big question is, do you know what you want from men you meet? Chances are you only remember the guys that are only after sex and project that onto all men. Many guys want a nice girl who'll be loyal to them but also have sexual desires too, and it's only natural to expect a partner to at least partially meet their physical desires. As for not knowing how to get her, that's all the over-analising that's been pumped-in by the media and pua. You didn't specify

They’re scared of you

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Men are shy, timid and scared sh*tless of any woman with half a brain.

Wel, an attitude like that would make most men who are the 'alpha' you so seek feel repulsed. That sense of entitlement so evident here is a MASSIVE turn off. Also, the level of shallowness you've displayed would make most guys who are long-term relatinoship, or indeed, happiness material, feel repulsed. As for being shy, timid and all the rest of it, most of the guys who are not solely after sex or who do not fit the constructed 'alpha' bill will find an attitude like that rathe intimidating (and alsp repulsive).

Shame on you for not teaching them how to properly approach a woman.

As if you really know your stuff, as if your social skills, empathy and ability to relate to people are really as magnificent and superior to those you're trying to decry?
In the society in which we live today, with Gigi Hadid and Miranda Kerr’s Instagrams readily accessible, women have got a lot to compete with. Fortunately, we’re competing with women these men will never have a shot with. Unfortunately, these men don’t seem to know this.

Yeah, but most men (who might be capable of making you happy) know that most of these networking sites are only people's best pictures adn don't display people's everyday lives.
Men also know that if they don’t get up the nerve to ask you out, all they have to do is swipe right on Tinder to skip the date and get right to the good stuff.

Well, it's a sad fact that dating has become reduced to this, but it's really that anti-social culture of anglo societies. If people can't meet people through people, then they're shit out of luck. Sadly, a lot of people are in this situation. Apps like that are a shitty substitute and if anything, make people more shallow.

I'm very sorry to here about your misfortunes and frustrations. Hope things work out well in the end. I'm only trying to help. I'm only giving the same help as I would to a guy in your situation.

Here's a tip, try to appreciate what you do have, stop trying so hard, learn to love yourself, looking at what you're doing wrong, try to understand people and where they're coming from.
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Re: Woman Complains That Men Don't Ask Women Out Anymore

Postby Adama » Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:19 am

She's so busy blaming men for being cowardly that she forgets one thing: Most women are very cruel to men. It isn't that men lack courage. It is that when they had courage, some woman took a literal dump all over them. Then another woman did it. Then another woman after that one. Then that man was done with modern women.

Let's also not forget that half the time if a man says he is attracted to a woman, he gets labeled a creep or a loser by practically everyone there is, including many other men who should empathize but don't (because they're married to an obese heffer).
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Re: Woman Complains That Men Don't Ask Women Out Anymore

Postby Adama » Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:31 am

Yohan wrote:The only good thing with this feminist drivel are the follow-up comments. Most readers disagree with the author.


I guess people are starting to get tired of hearing women complain about the non-existent problems created by men.
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Re: Woman Complains That Men Don't Ask Women Out Anymore

Postby Ghost » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:32 am

She's just a bitter loser that can't get laid.

How's that medicine taste sweetheart? :lol:
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Re: Woman Complains That Men Don't Ask Women Out Anymore

Postby jamesbond » Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:58 pm

Ghost wrote:She's just a bitter loser that can't get laid.

How's that medicine taste sweetheart? :lol:

That's what women always tell men when they complain about dating and women.

Now we can tell this woman that she is just bitter that men don't buy her drinks at bars anymore. :P
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Re: Woman Complains That Men Don't Ask Women Out Anymore

Postby droid » Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:40 pm

jamesbond wrote:
Ghost wrote:She's just a bitter loser that can't get laid.

How's that medicine taste sweetheart? :lol:

That's what women always tell men when they complain about dating and women.

Now we can tell this woman that she is just bitter that men don't buy her drinks at bars anymore. :P


:lol: :lol: :lol: She should woman up
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Re: Woman Complains That Men Don't Ask Women Out Anymore

Postby Taco » Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:25 pm

Traditional dating as well as marriage and raising kids in western countries has come to a grinding halt.

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Re: Woman Complains That Men Don't Ask Women Out Anymore

Postby Zambales » Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:58 pm

Sounds like a damsel in distress. Pass me the sickbag someone!

Typical entitled, myopic, obnoxious, whining feminist who has a very poor understanding of men. Try looking in the mirror sweetie and quit blaming us guys you pathetic excuse of a woman.
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Re: Woman Complains That Men Don't Ask Women Out Anymore

Postby Zambales » Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:28 pm

I like this comment. Should only be applied to the Anglophile women though.

Men today don't want to get into a relationship with women. Grown men have learned that thed e is nothing to gain by having a relationship. We are teaching and coaching teenage males and young men to stay clear of anything resembling a woman attempting to take over your life. Women ruin men. I expand.

Man marries woman. They have children. Buy a house. 5-9 years of marriage and then the woman starts looking for a way out. She files for divorce. Man is forced with a restraining order and leaves the home.

During the divorce process, the man still pays for the living arrangement of his family but also muat pay to live himself. He looks stressed and homeless all of the time. Lack of sleep. Missing his children. Being put through the ringer. He fights to no avail to have his parental rights maintained. He is reduced to a few days a month.

Post divorce he is financially, emotionally, spiritually and mentally broke! Struggles to not be homeless. Do have bills paid, food to eat and still hopes to see his children.

As more and more men see the effects, they are wising up and saying NO to women.

Now I ask you, why would any man not want to be with you?!
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Re: Woman Complains That Men Don't Ask Women Out Anymore

Postby suprmon » Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:43 pm

American women have made the dating scene in this country so, toxic, that men can't approach women they're not familiar with without fear of being insulted, or seen as a a threat with the possibility of getting beat up or arrested!
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Re: Woman Complains That Men Don't Ask Women Out Anymore

Postby Ghost » Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:06 am

I ask American females out all the time...

Out of my presence...
Out of my way...
Out of my life...

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