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One person usually has more power in relationships. However this only works when it's a man possessing the power. A man with power is a benevolent dictator to his wife. His wife can think of herself however she wants but ultimately she's a slave with a longer or shorter leech and a prison that she decorated herself. Like a cat, this environment works for her because she's attached to a circumstance, not a principle. As long as the man keeps gourmet kibble coming and instills an ominous sense of fear she will make peace.
It does not work for women to have power because civilized power is about restraint and sacrifice. Women can acquire power but they only understand this as self expression. Ayn Rynd is a great example of female power manifested.
So as a rule men should not compromise themselves. Never trade power for sex. Because if you do, you will lose both in the end. Whatever appeasement you make will be temporary. She will hate you and you will hate you. It doesn't matter how hot she is - walk.
When you date don't expect to find a slave. Your goal is to see how an animal reacts with having a noose tied around her neck. If they yelp in pain but do nothing else then they're breed-able. However if they break the leech and run away, they cannot be domesticated.
For a man to maintain power he should never promise sexual fidelity. He should only promise to report what he does or doesn't do. If a woman asks him directly "well are you going over to Janet's house to screw her" the proper response is "you'll know when I get back".
Moscow clubs capitalize on lonely women starved for affection.
Women sitting alone together in a cafe would not give most observers pause, but in Russia, a group of women alone acts as a reminder of the country's deficiency in marriageable men. Lonely Russian women are commonplace in Moscow and other major Russian cities where men are dramatically outnumbered by the opposite sex. Mothers and daughters alike bemoan the lack of options available to them romantically. Men are not only scarce, but a good one is next to impossible to find.
Men in Russia are prone to alcoholism, unemployment, and abuse. Generations of women in Russia have witnessed the decline of the Russian man. Complaints about men's rudderless existence and poor treatment of women have become a mainstay for gatherings of women, whether at home, at work, or in a social setting. Wherever women gather, the subject of men is not far behind. Some of these women have taken to dressing the part of the jilted lover awaiting rescue, donning dramatic gowns, complete with stiletto heels as they await their knight in shining armor. A knight that few Russian women continue to believe in or have any hope left will actually materialize.
Most women regale past experiences with men with very few pleasant memories. Even women that have been fortunate enough to be involved in a romance, the love quickly sours and is often replaced by resentment, disillusionment, and unhappiness. Russian women wish to be wined and dined and made to feel special. However, even promising men disappoint these notions, causing women to grow hardened as their hope of love and happily-ever-after slowly fades.
The first experience with men a Russian woman remembers is usually her father. Unfortunately, most of these fathers were of no better than the men available for dating at present. Russian women are often raised bearing witness to drunken fathers, heavy drinking, financial insecurities due to lack of motivation to work, and verbal and physical abuse against their mothers. These formative memories create the foundation for a lifelong distrust of men in general, and each subsequent undesirable male encountered is further evidence that the female opinion of Russian men is justified.
To answer the demand for good, decent men, clubs have been emerging across Russia to provide women with the means the experiences they have long craved. One club, Marusia, has taken the concept a step further. Many clubs will have male-based entertainment for women to enjoy. Marusia offers services for women to be in close proximity, if not actual contact, with a desirable man. Women may pay between a few hundred to a couple thousand dollars for the privilege of cuddling with male employees for the experience of closeness and physical connection they cannot find elsewhere.
Starved for affection and love, some patrons of Marusia will request men to spend time with in private rooms. 50% of Russian women are single, with few prospects of a lasting relationship on the horizon. Marusia and clubs like it help these women fill a void, even for a few hours before they resume their search for men that can step into the role of lover, partner, and provider.
Many Russian women consider their future bleak, as the hopes of marriage and companionship become less likely. Some critics believe that these situations are, in some part, created by the women themselves, citing that Russian women are too obsessed with finances and fairy tales. It could be argued in their defenses, that as the lonely fates of these Russian women looms over their heads, cynicism increases and practicality prevail, and the romantic ideals of the past morph into merely desires to be cared for.
Russian women have begun to turn to mail order bride sites to find a husband . Companies like A Foreign Affair have been capitalizing on the demand for marriage minded husbands. Every month they bring groups of men to Russian and the Ukraine. The women attend what A Foreign Affair calls a social, hundreds of young beautiful Russian women attend these events with the hope to get the chances to meet one of 25 or so men that have traveled from the USA or Europe. 23 Year old Olga from Odessa says, "I have given up looking for a man in the Ukraine, I have no problem finding a date, but finding a man I would want to be the father of my children is a completely different thing. I want a man my children can admire and respect. I want a man that will be by friend, my soul mate and my lover"
1st World View
The man must be the one in power. If the woman is in control then the man will be in trouble. And there is no such thing as equals. It only seems that way to observers who insist that equality is possible. It is not.
But most importantly, none of this is a choice for the woman. It is automatic. Either she is submissive towards you or not. There's nothing a man can do to make a woman submissive except to only choose from among those women who will act submissive for him. And just because a woman is submissive for one man, it doesn't mean she will be submissive to the entire world. Just like, just because a woman is attracted to a particular man, it doesn't mean she's attracted to every man.
So true. My ex was not the submissive type and expected life to go her way, like when a man must be home, what to do on weekends, how to raise kids etc. That did not work for me at all. It took a lot of legal work just to enforce my rights. Even lawyers quit on her as she wouldn't take advice and wanted to tell them how things must be . So she found a much younger man who earns a lot less than her, so now she bought their house and car and be in control. Some women just keep insisting taking a bite of the apple is the right way and don't want to keep quiet when white men are talking.
She must have tore the pages out of her bible where it says a woman must be in submission and never dictate to a man.
Exactly. And there is nothing you can do about it. The only solution is to simply choose from the women who will be submissive for you. If she wants to stay with you, her soul commands that she be submissive towards you, and she can't override her soul, which is why it isn't even her choice.
I've been with women who were angry and domineering, and thankfully, they all broke up with me right away when I let them know that I wasn't going to be obedient towards them. A domineering woman is searching for a submissive man. A submissive woman is searching for a dominant man. That's why those fools who insist women are equals are in for some trouble because domineering women are looking for such men. Those men will be submissive but in order to justify it to himself, he will tell himself that it is because women are truly equal, when in reality she's the boss.
Guys, you are writing about power in relationships, submission, and dominance. The majority of women from Russia and Ukraine are brought up to want a male who is a leader, they would very much prefer it. The problem is that the personal strength of a woman and a man can differ, it also varies as they go through life and acquire more experience and skills. The power in a relationship is not set according to what the two people "wish" but reflects the actual personal strength of each individual.
It's like two animals, no matter how strong one is, if another one comes around who is obviously stronger, the previously dominant beast will submit to the new leader. In other words, you cannot "set" a certain order that opposes your real personal strength.
No matter how strong a woman (or a man) is, there is some person of the opposite gender who will be stronger. The key is to find the balance that suits both partners, rather than seek power or submission. There is nothing wrong if in a relationship with a Russian woman a man takes a less assertive role at home and allows her to make the majority of decisions for the family if they both are happy with this situation. There are some quite high-level professionals who give orders all day long and genuinely prefer to relax at home. They are not submitting to the power of their spouses but choose the balance that helps them being leaders where it matters.
In my experience, it would be nice to give the woman power to run the home and make those kind of decisions, but usually they don't make any. It usually ends up being a mess and the man ends up having to sort that out as well. They have no long term planning or routines. They are too spontaneous to regulate such tasks. If they do make any decisions they are rash emotional ones. Sort of i like the look of this, or wouldn't this be nice etc. The few good women that can run a home and feed a family are snapped up early, and men do not leave such women.
Zambales: I agree. If the guy isn't "there," the chick doesn't usually like it & might just be testing his solidity (the thing is, the guy might just figure that it's doing things that each other likes between them & it's some bullshit to not put up with from others).
1st World View: Is it like that in Czechia & Slovakia? I'm heading to Eastern Europe this December & want to get some info. I tend to think Slavic women have a lot in common with Latinas, just different styles. Like they all seem to like a man that's able to handle himself & isn't dainty, but also does have a heart & intellect- not so much a one-trick pony, but a rugged man that's versatile & has an appetite for them.