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Most men use a 10 point scale, but I think this is overly complicated. What does each point of difference really count for?
I see 3 real points of difference:
1 (Normally 1-4) Ugly Women
Obese, old, disfigured, birth defects. They couldn't pay you to sleep with them. The act of sex feels disgusting. You're embarrassed to be around them.
2 (Normally 5-6) Average Women
Nothing good or bad stands out, they blend in to the crowd. Sex is adequate but not exciting. You get no bragging rights. You wouldn't pay for it but you'll take it free.
3 (Normally 7-10) Attractive Women
Rare genetic specimens. Sex between #2 and #3 could be the same, the difference is you get bragging rights with #3 and are willing to pay.
I've never really thought about it in terms of numbers, but I think most guys think a 7-8 is good looking, a 9 is awesome beautiful and there may not be any such thing as a 10. Although I've seen a few I might just have to give a 10. And overall I would definitely separate them into more than just 3 categories.
Everybody has a plan til they get punched in the mouth
Either you use a linear scale or a curved scale. If the latter, you need to define the curve, and that is way more mathematics than is appropriate for the average internet user. So a linear scale it has to be.
With a linear scale, each point from 1 to 10 has exactly 10% of the population. This is also called a percentile scale, as in top 10% of wealth. Using this linear or percentile scale, HB10s are actually common, just as wealth millionaires are common in the United States.
Attractive women ARE common. About 30% of girls aged 19 are pretty and the differences between very best of that 30% and the others are negligible. Differences increase with age because so many woman let themselves go. Also, makeup and Photoshop make a huge difference in turning merely pretty girls into supermodels. Likewise, a pretty woman who is heavily made up, has her hair poofed up, wearing revealing clothing and high heels, will attract lots of attention, when the same woman dressed for work at office depot (no makeup, hair in a pony tail, khaki pants, button up shirt) will attract no attention.
Finally, we focus too much on faces because we wear so much clothing. At the beach, the focus on the face is reduced and the body is more heavily emphasized. Assuming everyone is in good shape (toned yoga or military type body, as in lean and muscles allowing 10 dead hang pull-ups for men, and equivalent for women) then people start looking quite similar at the beach.
Among circle jerkers (RVF forum, etc), the scale is both implicitly curved (since they would deny that 10% of women get the HB10 label) but no one defines the curve, and also carried out to decimal points, as in HB7.6. Among circle jerkers, the focus is always on the other men, women are just a means to get other men's attention.
I usually put them into four categories physically.
If I'm looking for a relationship I tend to go for the second one. The very attractive types usually are full of themselves and think they're God's Gift which is a total turn-off for me. They're perfectly feasible for one night though but not for anything more.
If a guy is looking long term with his main priority being a trophy, he's most likely heading for a nasty surprise somewhere down the line. Too many men fall for this one. It's not a competition.
I can't think of any perfect 10s that exist today, but 30 years ago, Kathy Ireland, Rachel Hunter, and Holly Hallstrom were definitely 10s (Holly was one of "Barker's Beauties" from "The Price is Right").
I also think that 10 categories is too many, but you need more than 3. 7 categories works for me. The category descriptions would be
3. Below average
5. Above average/cute
7. Stunning, drop-dead gorgeous.
Do you actually treat your 1-3 differently? If they are all undatable and will be ignored then why grade them differently?
A trophy may also just be statue that's dead in bed. But I admit I would prefer a trophy, I'm not sure why I have this need.
I was listening to Tom Leykis a few years ago and a guy called in and said while he was in the process of divorcing his American wife, he met a woman from Russia who was much better looking than his wife.
He said he couldn't wait for his divorce to be final because, "My future trophy wife was warming up in the bullpen."
"When I think about the idea of getting involved with an American woman, I don't know if I should laugh .............. or vomit!"
"Trying to meet women in America is like trying to decipher Egyptian hieroglyphics."