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Re: Why Approaching Women in Public is Pointless

Postby Adama » March 17th, 2017, 3:55 pm

Zambales wrote:
Adama wrote:You need a warm approach. A cold approach will not work because attraction is in the soul.


This.

If a guy hasn't got the confidence, charisma and charm he shouldn't approach a woman he doesn't know. If Brad Pitt acted like Dan Cilley for example, I'd imagine he'd have problems too.


Everybody loves Brad Pitt, but there is an actor who isn't as big, but comparable to Pitt in this department who we can look at to see how women respond to him: Antonio Sabato Jr.

A few years ago he had his own dating show on VH1 which I watch on Amazon. Now you would think being as good looking Brad Pitt, famous, and rich that he would have quality women lining up for him. Not so. Many seemed like they were of the trashy sort.

The women he had lining up for him were not great at all. One of his final two women was openly oppositional, openly critical of him, directly disobedient towards him, and generally lacked respect for him. It was obvious. She was an RN, and she was actually telling him that he needs a real job because acting jobs aren't enough. She says this to a millionaire actor-model that he needs to get a real job. She was the "most pretty" in the group (that group wasn't the greatest). And that may be why he picked her. Simply for her looks. At least that's what it seemed like to me. In the end, they didn't last long at all.

Now he is married to a 40+ y/o former model. I think she is one of those exotic women.

Still, you would think a man like him could get tons of beautiful women in their 20s who are willing to do all kinds of things for him, instead of going for a woman who's already 40.

So I am not sure how much power looks really give a man. It may be in how you wield that power and your proper understanding of it. You can be good looking, but if you have no understanding of how to interact with women, it won't do you much good.
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Re: Why Approaching Women in Public is Pointless

Postby MrMan » March 17th, 2017, 4:09 pm

Adama,

It may be that some men don't know how to recognize a high-quality woman, and don't know the things they should value. A lot of men say they want an 'independant woman' or something along those lines. It's obvious that some men have no decent criteria for looking for a woman. It's things like looks, her personality, her being willing to sleep with him, etc. Looks can play a small role, and personality is important. But character issues are extremely important. And of course, Christians should only marry fellow Christians. Being of the same faith is extremely important. A woman claiming to have faith isn't enough to show that she'd be good wife material, either.
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Re: Why Approaching Women in Public is Pointless

Postby Adama » March 17th, 2017, 4:13 pm

MrMan wrote:Adama,

It may be that some men don't know how to recognize a high-quality woman, and don't know the things they should value. A lot of men say they want an 'independant woman' or something along those lines. It's obvious that some men have no decent criteria for looking for a woman. It's things like looks, her personality, her being willing to sleep with him, etc. Looks can play a small role, and personality is important. But character issues are extremely important. And of course, Christians should only marry fellow Christians. Being of the same faith is extremely important. A woman claiming to have faith isn't enough to show that she'd be good wife material, either.


They are brainwashed by society and culture. Also, the proper kind of knowledge about women is shunned openly by other men. I don't feel sorry for them. Look some men, how you tell them about what God said about women being in submission, and they tell you that only weak men want women in submission.
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Re: Why Approaching Women in Public is Pointless

Postby Ralph in Miami » September 4th, 2017, 4:40 am

Social circle is what can get you laid more than anything. Problem for me is I don't like most people. Wish I didn't have to go through that small talk nonsense just to get to know who you want. I'm working on getting better at that though.

Your initial non night time approach can't just be about getting laid, women can smell that a mile away. You have to actually have an interest in getting to know her. If your looking to get laid just go to the bar and offer party favors. A woman will take it but thats not the type of woman I want at this point in my life. Ideally I just want to get to know someone with no children, no mental health issues and is reasonably attractive. That has been difficult for me obivously.
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Re: Why Approaching Women in Public is Pointless

Postby WorldTraveler » September 5th, 2017, 6:49 am

Adama wrote:
Zambales wrote:
Adama wrote:You need a warm approach. A cold approach will not work because attraction is in the soul.


This.

If a guy hasn't got the confidence, charisma and charm he shouldn't approach a woman he doesn't know. If Brad Pitt acted like Dan Cilley for example, I'd imagine he'd have problems too.


Everybody loves Brad Pitt, but there is an actor who isn't as big, but comparable to Pitt in this department who we can look at to see how women respond to him: Antonio Sabato Jr.

A few years ago he had his own dating show on VH1 which I watch on Amazon. Now you would think being as good looking Brad Pitt, famous, and rich that he would have quality women lining up for him. Not so. Many seemed like they were of the trashy sort.

The women he had lining up for him were not great at all. One of his final two women was openly oppositional, openly critical of him, directly disobedient towards him, and generally lacked respect for him. It was obvious. She was an RN, and she was actually telling him that he needs a real job because acting jobs aren't enough. She says this to a millionaire actor-model that he needs to get a real job. She was the "most pretty" in the group (that group wasn't the greatest). And that may be why he picked her. Simply for her looks. At least that's what it seemed like to me. In the end, they didn't last long at all.

Now he is married to a 40+ y/o former model. I think she is one of those exotic women.

Still, you would think a man like him could get tons of beautiful women in their 20s who are willing to do all kinds of things for him, instead of going for a woman who's already 40.

So I am not sure how much power looks really give a man. It may be in how you wield that power and your proper understanding of it. You can be good looking, but if you have no understanding of how to interact with women, it won't do you much good.


Antonio Sabato Jr. looks better than 99.9% of all men. He will not have problems getting women. What they do on a TV show is not real. Maybe they wanted him to date average bitch women to create drama. He's already been married twice, so he obviously likes being married. I don't think you can learn anything about getting women by looking at movie stars or celebrities. They are in the top .0001% of all people in the country their lives are not normal in any way. I used to have a friend who told me lots of guys were getting laid in America. His evidence was celebrities got laid. It means nothing to an average guy in the West.
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Re: Why Approaching Women in Public is Pointless

Postby Adama » September 5th, 2017, 3:37 pm

On the contrary, if a rich AND famous AND good looking (better looking than 99.9% of men by one estimate) actor-model has bad luck in the USA with women, then that tells you that looks and status don't even mean that much to American women.
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Re: Why Approaching Women in Public is Pointless

Postby WorldTraveler » September 5th, 2017, 6:20 pm

Adama wrote:On the contrary, if a rich AND famous AND good looking (better looking than 99.9% of men by one estimate) actor-model has bad luck in the USA with women, then that tells you that looks and status don't even mean that much to American women.


No they don't. If you want to get a girls attention, help them get a high paying job. That always interests them. Work tops men, 95% of the time with Western women.
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Re: Why Approaching Women in Public is Pointless

Postby Contrarian Expatriate » September 5th, 2017, 9:31 pm

I think you should approach women in public OFTEN and get the number quickly. Why?

-Dating is a numbers game and as Wayne Gretzky said, "You miss 100% of the shots you do not take."

-Attractive women get hit on rarely in public because most guys are too scared to do so. Your doing so shows balls and will get you success more than you think.

-The more you do it, the less you care about rejection. At this point, I see rejection as the cost of doing business and I welcome it even.

-Even if you get rejected, give her your number on a piece of paper anyhow. About 10% to 20% of girls change their minds and contact you later.

-Women typically love to be hit on, even when they behave as if they are annoyed. It is attention and validation for them.

-It primes you and prepares you for target-rich environments overseas where your batting average will rise significantly since you are a foreigner of privilege and/or high courage.

Now for the downsides of approaching women in public.

-Haters, haters, and more haters. You should expect envious onlookers to watch be trying to determine if you are annoying the girl. Ugly, fat women will get triggered because you are not interested in them, and "white knight" mangina men may try to swoop in to save the damsel in distress. My strategy is to physically put my back to manginas which they take as a signal to go away. Fat, triggered, women are a bit more tricky. It might be best to use that circumstance to just jot the number and give it over with a smile.
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Re: Why Approaching Women in Public is Pointless

Postby Ralph in Miami » September 6th, 2017, 12:31 am

Agree here. Women arent going to approach you. Just have a normal conversation point out something in the environment or about her go from there. Most people will engage in small talk.
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Re: Why Approaching Women in Public is Pointless

Postby Taco » September 6th, 2017, 12:25 pm

Third World Countries - West Africa, Central Africa, Caribbean Islands, Central America, Philippines approaching women in public is a good idea

All other countries - approaching women in public is a bad idea
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