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1 in 10 guys in US will never find a woman

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according to Steve Hoca, a guy I've been listening to. He's very bright, articulate, eloquent and a good speaker. And like me, has a lot of courage in saying what he does. I ought to put up my own series on youtube too.

Here is his video where he estimates that 1 in 10 guys are totally dateless and probably always will be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFd0FUTp9_E

He seems like a good looking guy, so I don't know why he would have such problems too.

But anyhow, if 1 in 10 guys can't get any girls at all, that's around 15 million, which is a lot. I guess that's my target audience too! That's a lot of people to reach as well.
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The movies and tv shows in America make it look like it's so easy to meet women in America and get laid. Of course, nothing could be further from the truth. You never hear the media talk about the difficult dating situation for men in America. I guess, it's not politically correct!
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jamesbond wrote:The movies and tv shows in America make it look like it's so easy to meet women in America and get laid. Of course, nothing could be further from the truth. You never hear the media talk about the difficult dating situation for men in America. I guess, it's not politically correct!
Baywatch comes to mind. And did you see in what gorgeous Malibu houses those lifeguards live? And the convertibles they drive? All that for the measly $1200 before taxes that they get? No wonder you have millions of illegals crossing the border and so many people dreaming of coming to America.
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Ha, ha the second pic is a bit extreme but does provide a working model of what American guys have to sift through to find a decent sized woman that is at least height & weight proportionate.

Most foreigners only see the Hollywood media, hot newscasters and internet porno chicks and think all American women are hot. I'm always asked in Philippines why I don't marry an American woman and they don't believe me when I tell them that around 70% of them are considered overweight and unattractive to the average man.

Men in America just lower their standards because they are so desperate to get laid. If they would just be patient and take vacations overseas to meet woman and get laid, I think there would be a lot more single, desperate American woman trying harder to look good and have better attitudes.

I think things are starting to change slowly with the younger generation coming up, but not fast enough for me. At least I'm a guy and age just makes me better to most woman around the world. I wonder what 30 something woman and above who were bitches or fat will be doing with themselves in America over the next decade. I won't be dating them thats for sure.

My sister is not over weight but she is a bitch and is getting exactly the karma she created for me and other men when she was a teen and 20 something. Now she is in her thirties and not having much luck with finding"decent" men in her opinion. She is going to be an old cat lady pretty soon and when I am in my 40's or 50's I will be either surrounded by hot younger woman or have a really good one as a GF.

I'm still not convinced that marriage can work in todays world for a man in anyplace so I'm quite reluctant to go that route.
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I agree that at times the overall idea of finding a woman that is loyal, loving, kind and willing to commit can be difficult, however I don't believe the hype that so many men will be single their whole life.

Remember the saying it's 10% ability and 90% effort? We as men need to just get out there - lift your head up - and take a chance - at EVERY CHANCE we have.

Love is there - you just have to put on your "ego" and go get it.
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Well, I think there are basically 2 paths to dating in America:
1) the path of wealth and power
2) the path of conformity

If you have enough money or are powerful enough, you can pretty much be as eccentric as you want and still get laid. The rich truly do live different lives. They have worries, but they are different worries.

If a man is neither rich nor powerful, then he must act like everybody else and worry about conforming to the ideals which the media imposes on American society.

Americans get very uncomfortable around people like me who really don't give a damn about conforming to American culture, despite the fact that I am not wealthy (being wealthy is the "get out of jail free" card in the game of American life. People get upset if somebody acts free without having this necessity).

I got laid the most in college when I was in intermediate mathematics classes because I was the smartest guy in class and displayed power this way. Later on, I got to the really advanced classes where there were Russian men who were a hell of a lot smarter than me, but it didn't matter anymore because there were almost no women in these classes.

A friend of a friend of mine demonstrates the path of conformity very clearly. He was a computer science major at a college in the city. He was fat and ugly as hell but was always chatting with people in person and on his cell phone, smoking something or other, going out with groups of people (not dates), selling drugs, skipping classes, and following popular culture. He got laid periodically because of his total dedication to American conformity and because he sold drugs which probably gave him a certain "bad boy" image and gave people a reason to kiss up to him to get some free samples.

I, however, never had any interest in becoming a drug-dealing yuppie, but I certainly wouldn't mind being rich. Being rich or moving abroad are the two solutions which allow men to maintain their dignity if they dislike American popular culture as much as I do (perhaps moving to a very large city in America and hanging out with certain immigrant communities might be an alternative as well, but this also forces you to deal with all the problems inherent to large American cities).
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I guess you can always learn to become a "pickup artist" and try to become successful with women that way in America. Other than that, become a celebrity and the American women will seek you out like bees seek out honey! Of course, traveling to other countries is probably the best thing a guy in America could do in order to meet women.
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Steve Hoca's video 1 in 10 women will never find a woman was probably much lower estimate than reality I'm thinking 15 to 20 percent of men will never find the woman they want to marry. these guys may end up settling for an average fat woman because they cant get anything better. I don't believe most men really want that.
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Archangel_hawksnest wrote:Steve Hoca's video 1 in 10 women will never find a woman was probably much lower estimate than reality I'm thinking 15 to 20 percent of men will never find the woman they want to marry. these guys may end up settling for an average fat woman because they cant get anything better. I don't believe most men really want that.
These days? Bet it's closer to 25% will never get a sniff.
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