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Are lonely Japanese guys even more desperate than their western counterparts?
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My understanding is japanese women are only good for sex which is true with any liberated woman. Kissing a japanese woman in public is out of the question but asking them if they want to get a hotel room on the first date is perfectly OK. They will also fake orgasms before sex has even started. They used to be traditional but like american women they have now lost all of there maternal instincts.
Yea, I saw this Vid before. Its great to have a local wingman.
Of all the East Asian nationalities, I have the least amount of experience with Japanese girls. I approached them (tourists) in Europe a few times and always got shot-down. Scored once in Ropongi but she turned out to be a Chinese girl. The closest I ever got was with one in Taipei (expat) and another in Saigon (tourist) but both times, I could not follow through because I was with other girls.
Generally, my subjective (based on very limited experience) impression is that they are pickier. The ones who are into foreigners have a specific type in mind. Just being white or black is not enough for these sub-cultures.
One of my white (Jewish) American friends had a cushy expat job Tokyo for 3 years and had previously lived there another 5 so he spoke fluent Japanese. He's 6'1", slim, decent looking, and was early 30s during the posting. He told me he never got the opportunity to date local girls and all his relationships were with foreigners, several of them Asians from other countries.
One of my friends is a UN diplomat (a Chinese American). He goes to Japan all the time on business. He told me that Japanese women have a thing for black guys. Japanese girls like to have a black guy and brag about it!!
I have a few Taiwanese friends married to Japanese girls here in the US. Based on personal observation only, I'd say it helps if you are: 1) US citizen, 2) speaks Japanese, and 3) date Japanese girls here for college & wants to stay in the US (read: hunting for husband before student VISA expires).
Be warned that she would expect to be a stay at home mom and raise 2 kids. I've seen this like, 3 times in a row. On the plus side, Japanese in-law's are more generous with their financial contributions, versus Chinese in-law's would expect you to give them money.
The mistake (for better or worse) that I made in the past, is that I dated exchange students with no intent of staying. Thus, the relationships never lasted after they return home.
As for lonely sexless men in Japan, if they're otaku, it's a matter of personal choice (2-D anime girls over real life person). If it's because of socio-economic reasons, then they cannot afford the many girls in the water trade (mizu shobai) & adult services avail in Japan (i.e. $30 for a BJ at a pink salon). Worse, if the person is an extreme pervert who enjoys buying used panties from little girls, then ah... better off not asking. Watch the movie "Air Doll" (2009):
If the guy has a job and just wants to get married, he can always call on his relatives to arrange omiai. Or, go join the moonies and get hooked up with a Korean wife.
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Yea, that's the common perception. But I believe its only a sub-group.
I've read that many of the girls who are hardest into foreigners will go down to Okinawa to hook-up with American GIs. And there are even segregated hang-outs. One disco is mainly for the whities and another for the black guys, not out of racism but just to make the pick-ups more straight forward. The groupies who want a black guy go to the black disco and the ones who are OK with whites go there. Can anyone who has been to Okinawa confirm or refute this?
Its also supposedly common knowledge in much of Asia that Japanese girls often go down to SE Asia (places like Bali) to hook-up with the local guy(s) of their choice. Many even provide compensation or at least cover all the expenses.
Poor Japanese guys, lol. On my last trip to Thailand, I sighted, on several separate occasions, young Japanese dudes walking with hot ladyboys.
Here is my experience. I am a Black guy. Lived there in japan for two years. it was MEGA EASY getting a date. i love their character too, very charismatic majority of them are friendly. i was getting approached by them in mcdonalds. Every time i went to the same one. All the japanese women working there would run to the counter and say hi to me with a big smile on their face. In roppongi i approached one in public. she was very friendly, sweet and talked to me.
winston was absolutely right about how easy it is getting a date outside the US. Im Black so it was very easy doing this. even at work ( i was military at the time 2005-2007) the japanese would see me and shout out my name, " HI watkins" ( my last name ). they did this everytime they saw me in the office.
now it is 2010. i am here in the U.S. california, los Angeles. I go to the little tokyo to see them. they are not approachable in public here in america. the environment changes them really fast. BUT here is the thing... when i go into the shops where these women work. i talk to the japanese ladies. and they are so FRIENDLY and OPEN to talking with me. but when i talk to an american women when she is working. they don't want me too. they hate when you come up and talk to them and they want you away from them. they are very narcissistic even behind the counter. rude bitches.
so anyways, japanese here in the states are sooooo much better behind the work counter. i also had a japanese lady here come up to my restaurant table and she said, " Its nice to see you again." ( she was working there ). now what american woman says that to a guy she likes when working.
My experience has been similar to SSJParris, in Japan at least. As a black guy I always had ti easy there. But it IS ture that there is a certain type who are into black guys. It's not as small a subculture as one might think though. Those that aren't will probably make it clear pretty quickly. I remember back in the day, when karaoke clubs were open (not the private boxes) and I would sing Japanese songs in there, girls would literally grab me, as I tried to walk back to my table, so they could talk. Of course, this is where alcohol is involved.
I had similar experience in Korea. It seems those girls who are into hop hop and black guys will go out of their way to let you know it, and the rest will pretty much ignore you.
Now I will see how it goes down in China. So far I am pretty impressed.
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A childhood friend of mine is a U.S. marine and was stationed in Okinawa. He was a pretty decent looking Jewish guy and pretty outspoken. He hated Okinawa and said that the people were really tired of the military in general. The women available were usually party girl types who spent their time sleeping from GI to GI. The respectable nice girls pretty much kept their distance.
Btw, Japanese guys have no problems scoring in Thailand. They have entire blocks set up in Little Tokyo style and a Japanese guy tends to set up with second wives in Bangkok. I used to live in a condo building which was a hive of Japanese expat activity and some of the women they had were absolutely hot. I really don't think they are exactly starved for attention here. Then again some may be into ladyboys but from what i've seen the ladyboy trade is largely plied in Khao San where backpackers and other unsuspecting tourists can't tell the difference.
Japanese women look much more feminine and introverted than American women. In looks they are far better. But they can be just as bad cause they are just as picky.
When I see them in groups there is a strong force field around them and you can't talk to them at all. They act like they don't even see you. I get the sense that chatting them up is not even remotely possible. And when I try I get a strong feeling that it's not allowed.
Maybe for blacks it's different.
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Yes, if you skim through a lot of the posts, I think we're establishing that different guys will get vastly different experiences in a given country.
Race, age, appearance, and personality all factor into the equation. And just because many people in a country may behave with prejudice against certain races (say Korea against blacks) does not mean that women in that country will not be attracted to men of that race. Japan is known as being very xenophobic and generally biased against all non-ethnic Japanese. But the black guys on this forum all seem to do very well with women there.
I'm guessing that certain places are the common denominator - where you will be accepted and get action no matter what your race, age, looks, or personality. Could Phils, more specifically Angeles be once such place?
Well, you are an ethnic Chinese. I've heard that Japanese perceive Chinese and Koreans as 'inferior' (possibly a colonialist attitude stemming from partial or complete occupation of those territories before and during the early 20th century). Chinese and Koreans do not like Japanese much either, due to atrocities committed by Imperial Japan in both places (the Nanjing Massacre was probably the most disturbing of these, IMO).
I've not been to Japan, so I have no real idea as to how they perceive whites. Some (like NiceGuy) are very positive in their outlook towards Japanese women, whereas others are more guarded. I am similar to NiceGuy in many ways (raised in a middle-class family and with good manners - which does NOT get you anywhere in Anglo societies) but different in others (Asperger's Syndrome). Whilst I wouldn't want to be an East Asian with Asperger's Syndrome, I have heard that they don't mind too much if you're a foreigner with AS.
You'd better get a Japanese sex doll. At least she won't reject you. And she will be as expressive and as passionate as a Japanese woman. And her parents will not throw an act about her dating a round eye. She won't get old either.
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I second that on the japanese sex doll. i want to have several of those 'hidden' away lol...watch the movie 2046 to get an idea of what those things could be like in the future....if they end up becoming like they are portrayed in 2046 they might replace women altogether haha
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