Spot On!Teal Lantern wrote:A lot depends on her perception of her options and whether or not she's going to keep you around as a status marker or provider.
1:00 "In your 20s, you kind of just really go after (like) looks".
1:40 "You sleep with the bad boy, you don't marry him."
Q: If you're the one she married, Poindexter, what does that make you?
A: A freight payer for well-used (not-so) goods.
They tell you "nice guys" that "looks don't matter" so that their own fading looks aren't held against them when the wall approaches and they realize it is time to go wallet hunting.
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3. pheromones (appeal to her in the animal/primal level---which is very difficult to ignore). This will take effect when you get her near you. It's electric, and oftentimes the deciding factor if she is the type to act on base impulse alone.
4. sound of voice
5. body type (that the female prefers) and bone structure (that she prefers)
6. other (glasses/no glasses, how you dress, how you act/move)
This is interesting, are there any science behind pheromones, can you increase them somehow, it sits pretty high on the list
I can guess why women might say that, to not appear shallow. But I just wanted to hear other opinions. I can't relate to lying though, since I don't do it. Why can't women just be honest? Even many foreign women say that they don't care about looks. Many AFA profiles even say that. Is it possible for poor women to not care about looks?
Have you ever had the experience when a woman tells you: "I go for personality, not looks. My last boyfriend was short, fat, bald and not good looking. But he had the most amazing personality. I loved him so much!" Yet when you ask for a photo of him, they have none? Why do many girls say that? Is it even true?
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"It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne
It's a question of what the girl sees as being in HER best interest.
Beware the visual lie.
This is what we mean when we talk about those airbrushed images from your dating sites.
Poor women care about looks, but the smarter ones care MORE about a better quality of life.
Are you familiar with Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs?
The foreign women also "age out" earlier than western women do. Single western women, 35+, have a much easier time getting someone to marry them compared to non-western women that age.
I've even gotten "You're gonna make someone (else?) a great husband, someday."
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I came to realization that western women(not FW) care more about looks then westen men do, FW do too but economics plays a huge role so they aint as picky, (food/shelter takes priority)
Western women already have food/shelter so they do chose according to what get their panties wet
Its true single ww in mid 30s still have a lot more options compared to FW same age. Ok ww look better as they age, ever heard of Filipina milf or cougar, non existent species, Russians are on their last legs by the age of 30, thier potato and bread diet takes its toll on their bodies.
many men on this forum delude themselvs thinking western women in 30 and 40s dont have options and will settle, they still have more options then men will ever have, the once who decide not to get married can go clubbing till they hit 50 years of age and pick up a guy thats half her age.
Look steve hoca, for his age he is average or above average looking guy, runs marathons, lives healthy lifestyle and still cant get women 5 years younger than him, he needs to go 5-10 years older than himslef to get a women. Men never have advantage in the west
Now some will also 50%-60% AW are fat, thats true but its not like american men are in shape, thay are as fat.. burgers, beer, fries...
I don't think anyone on this forum is waiting for the Western woman to settle in her 30s and 40s. I would rather stay single in my 30s and 40s than date some "princess" who still thinks she's in her teenage years.
Also, I don't know a single guy who would date a woman twice his age or older than him for that matter. While there might be some losers who will marry a fat, ungrateful, bitter whale with a couple of kids to boot and a few ex-husbands, they probably don't know better.
Also, you're the first one who I heard saying that WW look better as they age lol. Except for Asian women, all of them start losing their sex appeal in their late 20s.
The "looks do no matter" analysis is not complete. There are cultural factors that determine the looks.
As an extreme example, imagine a black guy who is a 9 in the scale in the USA may simply not be seen as even dateable in apartheid states. His looks is totally demolished by cultural forces. These societal reinforcement mechanism plays a larger role. As an example, say a society that constantly says that one-eyed men are the epitome of beauty, then girls would think one-eyed men really are beautiful.
Looks do matter, but whose lens should one use to evaluate the aesthetic quality of "looks" -- is the question.
The old equation
Money + Looks = Girl
The global dating equation
Money + Looks(as seen by the culture influencing the girl's rating of beauty mechanism) = Girl
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After some serious analysis with my past experiences constantly approaching women, traveling around, and hanging out with a wide variety of people, I've come to some conclusions.
Here's my lineup, based on my own personal experiences of what attracts western women (in general):
1) Outlook on life (confidence/attitude*)
2) Social status
3) Displayed ability to get other girls (could tie into social status)
4) Ability to get drugs (cocaine is a p***y magnet!)
5) Looks (face, height, race)
In my experience, having money doesn't really do anything. It's the social status that goes along with it that matters.
Also, I really think that a person could be VERY successful in the US if they lack ONE of the major components of looks (but still have "game"). If you lack more than one, things might get difficult for you.
Again, this is all based on my subjective experience.
*Disclaimer: Having the "right attitude" means drinking the Koolaid HARD. I used to be an avid drinker. This is how I discovered that. [/b]
"Here is something interesting from a PUA named Tyler Durden. He says looks DO NOT MATTER to women! He also says money IS NOT IMPORTANT to women! WTF? Well, here he is explaining himself, check it out. "
If you are dating with blind women than she really don't care how do you look. And if you are dating some millionaire daughter she will probably don't mind how poor are you. But in all other cases this statement have no sense
And even then itÂ´s wrong...
In the past months I picked up 2 MILFs and I asked them about things we talk abut on this forum, looks, attraction, etc
Interestingly they both said the same thing, the FIRST few seconds are most important, they either like the guy or they don't,
if they don't find guy attractive its game over, persistent guy will come across as desperate.
Game is over before you open your mouth according to these cougars.
yes, they will smile to a guy they like and that's unofficial invitation, when they don't smile at you and look the other way means you are not her type!!
They even said how some of her GFs to approach a guy and ask for number....if you are hot looking guy Anglosphere is paradise, you get to bang most of the women
Same with guys, how long it take you to size up the chick?? Split second, you know straight away if she is in or out
That's what I like about these older women, they are much more honest and open than young girls who are mentally unstable and insecure
They are only honest because they wasted 10-20 years playing around being silly or had a bad relationship that was either their fault or their ex husband. Time does very predictable and typical things to people. If they were in their "prime" they probably would not tell you shit unless they actually liked you attraction wise...
I believe looks can only go so far and what that person deems as attractive, physically and personality wise, comes into play big time. Its all about personal taste. However, IMO, it is much easier to generalize these western whores on pure physicality and resources alone.
Was this from personal experience Kai?