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Could you try this experiment?

Postby baletetree » Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:33 am

When hooking up with foreign women, say that you're settling in or a citizen of the Philippines/Thailand/Cambodia/Laos/Poland/Georgia/any African nation right now. If the woman ignores you, then she is likely obsessed in getting a green card. For every feminist bitch in America, there is another gold digging foreigner whore who is far more subtler and more dangerous than her American "sister". You have to separate the chaff from the wheat.

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I'm telling you about Filipinas. I'll be fair, in my circle of friends, Filipinas with foreign husbands are generally ok. The guy is not so old and status is not so wealthy and living with his woman here in my country. BUT you really really have to watch out. First, DON'T HOOK UP WITH MARRIED WOMEN!!!!!!!!!! But lots of Americans and British fall for that. They have to shell out thousands of pounds and dollars to lawyers who promise this and that but are slowly milking their money. DIVORCE IS ILLEGAL in the Philippines and in legal separation, the couple can never remarry.

Second, make sure that the Filipina is NOT a bar girl. For obvious reasons and she's likely to carry STDs. Again, she only loves you for the green card. They are cheap. They don't want to earn an honest day's work so they prefer to act like sluts to win your affection--then stab you in the back later on. In fact, a friend made a song about them...

"On the first day of Christmas a cheap Pinay just asked from me, A green card so she can leave me!
On the second day of Christmas a cheap Pinay just asked from me, two blue-eyed boys, and a green card so she can leave me!
On the third day of Christmas a cheap Pinay just asked from me, three Vuiton bags, two blue-eyed boys, and a green card so she can leave me!
....."

and it goes on and on. But you get the idea.

Third, your best bet is to find a Chinese-Filipina who is a career woman. If she's managing a family business, the better. But she might be concerned that she'd be labeled as cheap if she hooked up with an American or European.

Fourth, look at her family. If the family is from middle-middle to upper class, then no problem. How can you tell? Look at the number of people in the family. A sibling or a grandparent or two living with them is okay. But if there are too many people then watch out.

Fifth, ask a Filipina what she thinks about Pinoys. If the criticism is hyperbolic and unfair...then she is likely a very cheap Pinay.
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Postby MrPeabody » Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:46 am

Excellent advice! I did try that with several women - I tell them I am retired and want to settle in their country. I have gotten responses like - i don't want to live in my country because it is very dangerous, i was planning on setting up a business in the US, and so forth. The women who are advertising on English language sites obviously want to come to the US.
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Postby Rock » Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:05 am

I don't know specifically about the Philippines. But generally, I believe perceived value of the US green card / citizenship is higher over-rated by Americans. From what I've seen, gold diggers from poorer countries these days are much more concerned with snagging a wealthy man or milking a guy dry. If you're a poor American and all you have to offer is a path to a US green card / citizenship, you may find it tough to compete with guys who have more cash for such girls. Not a bad thing though since gold diggers are surely a liability in the longer term.

In countries like Thailand, Brazil, or China, many girls prefer to stay put. Your passport doesn't mean much to them. All else equal, the richer guy who says he wants to live in her country long term will have a much better chance than a poorer guy who says he wants to take her to America. People need to learn the US is not what it once was. Major cashflow and assets are what give you prestige, status and make you an attractive marriage prospect. A US passport alone just doesn't cut-it anymore.
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Postby MrPeabody » Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:18 am

Rock wrote:I don't know specifically about the Philippines. But generally, I believe perceived value of the US green card / citizenship is higher over-rated by Americans. From what I've seen, gold diggers from poorer countries these days are much more concerned with snagging a wealthy man or milking a guy dry. If you're a poor American and all you have to offer is a path to a US green card / citizenship, you may find it tough to compete with guys who have more cash for such girls. Not a bad thing though since gold diggers are surely a liability in the longer term.

In countries like Thailand, Brazil, or China, many girls prefer to stay put. Your passport doesn't mean much to them. All else equal, the richer guy who says he wants to live in her country long term will have a much better chance than a poorer guy who says he wants to take her to America. People need to learn the US is not what it once was. Major cashflow and assets are what give you prestige, status and make you an attractive marriage prospect. A US passport alone just doesn't cut-it anymore.


Except that my Colombian ex-wife was very aware and had the self confidence that once she was in America, it would be relatively easy for her to find a job, as opposed to Colombia, where getting a job was almost impossible. She reasoned that she could even clean houses and be well off comparatively speaking. And with money she could live a happy life, be independent, and send money home to mama. So you see, the US visa is still considered useful by many women all over the world.
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Postby Winston » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:20 am

Baletetree,
Why don't you try it? Go to dateinasia and set up a profile and email girls saying you are from the Philippines, since you look like one, and see how they react?
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Postby baletetree » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:35 am

I don't have to pretend because I am a Filipino. Actually Chinese-Filipino. I tried your Russian dating site and nobody responded. I also tried Christian Dating and I got the same result too.
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Postby Winston » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:54 am

baletetree wrote:I don't have to pretend because I am a Filipino. Actually Chinese-Filipino. I tried your Russian dating site and nobody responded. I also tried Christian Dating and I got the same result too.


Russian women are more racist. What about the Asian girls on Dateinasia and Tagged.com? Try those and see what happens? Do you have a nice pic?

I'm sure that poorer Filipinas would go for a middle class Filipino right?

Try saying that you're from Hong Kong or Taiwan and see what the Russian girls say.
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Postby Rock » Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:28 am

MrPeabody wrote:
Rock wrote:I don't know specifically about the Philippines. But generally, I believe perceived value of the US green card / citizenship is higher over-rated by Americans. From what I've seen, gold diggers from poorer countries these days are much more concerned with snagging a wealthy man or milking a guy dry. If you're a poor American and all you have to offer is a path to a US green card / citizenship, you may find it tough to compete with guys who have more cash for such girls. Not a bad thing though since gold diggers are surely a liability in the longer term.

In countries like Thailand, Brazil, or China, many girls prefer to stay put. Your passport doesn't mean much to them. All else equal, the richer guy who says he wants to live in her country long term will have a much better chance than a poorer guy who says he wants to take her to America. People need to learn the US is not what it once was. Major cashflow and assets are what give you prestige, status and make you an attractive marriage prospect. A US passport alone just doesn't cut-it anymore.


Except that my Colombian ex-wife was very aware and had the self confidence that once she was in America, it would be relatively easy for her to find a job, as opposed to Colombia, where getting a job was almost impossible. She reasoned that she could even clean houses and be well off comparatively speaking. And with money she could live a happy life, be independent, and send money home to mama. So you see, the US visa is still considered useful by many women all over the world.


Well Colombia has gotten richer over the last decade relative to the States. Property and equity market were record performers for a few years last decade as perceived political risk fell substantially. And the US$ has lost ground against the Colombian Peso. So the economic gap has narrowed somewhat. Perhaps its even a bit safer as well. But Colombia is still an extremely unstable and dangerous country to live long term. Street crime, vendetta violence, and civil war related kidnappings are still commonplace. If you make someone angry enough, they can kill you with virtual impunity or have it done very cheaply. For those reasons alone, a lot of people would like to get out. And Colombians tend to be very entrepreneurial too. So in that sense, the US is a good place for them.

But girls from poorer countries which are more stable and/or less violent may not be so impressed by your passport if you don't also have a lot of disposable cash. The countries I mentioned before - Thailand, Brazil, or China - are 3 examples where I think this applies. But yes, there's still a lot of dirt poor countries out there where some girls will be motivated by the US green card prospect. I just don't think its anything like it used to be.
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Postby MrPeabody » Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:41 pm

Rock wrote:
MrPeabody wrote:
Rock wrote:I don't know specifically about the Philippines. But generally, I believe perceived value of the US green card / citizenship is higher over-rated by Americans. From what I've seen, gold diggers from poorer countries these days are much more concerned with snagging a wealthy man or milking a guy dry. If you're a poor American and all you have to offer is a path to a US green card / citizenship, you may find it tough to compete with guys who have more cash for such girls. Not a bad thing though since gold diggers are surely a liability in the longer term.

In countries like Thailand, Brazil, or China, many girls prefer to stay put. Your passport doesn't mean much to them. All else equal, the richer guy who says he wants to live in her country long term will have a much better chance than a poorer guy who says he wants to take her to America. People need to learn the US is not what it once was. Major cashflow and assets are what give you prestige, status and make you an attractive marriage prospect. A US passport alone just doesn't cut-it anymore.


Except that my Colombian ex-wife was very aware and had the self confidence that once she was in America, it would be relatively easy for her to find a job, as opposed to Colombia, where getting a job was almost impossible. She reasoned that she could even clean houses and be well off comparatively speaking. And with money she could live a happy life, be independent, and send money home to mama. So you see, the US visa is still considered useful by many women all over the world.


Well Colombia has gotten richer over the last decade relative to the States. Property and equity market were record performers for a few years last decade as perceived political risk fell substantially. And the US$ has lost ground against the Colombian Peso. So the economic gap has narrowed somewhat. Perhaps its even a bit safer as well. But Colombia is still an extremely unstable and dangerous country to live long term. Street crime, vendetta violence, and civil war related kidnappings are still commonplace. If you make someone angry enough, they can kill you with virtual impunity or have it done very cheaply. For those reasons alone, a lot of people would like to get out. And Colombians tend to be very entrepreneurial too. So in that sense, the US is a good place for them.

But girls from poorer countries which are more stable and/or less violent may not be so impressed by your passport if you don't also have a lot of disposable cash. The countries I mentioned before - Thailand, Brazil, or China - are 3 examples where I think this applies. But yes, there's still a lot of dirt poor countries out there where some girls will be motivated by the US green card prospect. I just don't think its anything like it used to be.


But the women who put their pictures on English language websites are going to be the ones who want to go to the US. And American men will most likely always be bumping into the ones who want to go to America, unless they actually live in the country and somehow break into the society to meet regular women. Another option may be to use the websites that the people in the country use to meet each other in their native language. If you are the gringo outsider, its not easy to break in.
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