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I'm skeptical about certain countries because of my race (all of the European countries, most Asian countries expect the Phillipines, and some South American coutries). I've decided i'm dating a foreign woman and marrying one (when i'm older and I get my finances together). My question is do women in all of Europe (France, Spain, Russia, Ukraine, UK, etc), South America, and Asia date African American guys? I know African women like African American guys. I have a brown complexion for an African American. I asked to get some clarification to help me decide which country of women is right for me.
There aren't many attractive women (inside and outside) in America. A man wants a physically attractive woman with attractive personality traits. American women usually don't have that combination.
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You would probably have the time of your life in Canada, Germany, or Australia. The white women there love black men and all the african-american guys I know who have been in those countries attest to that. It's like it's a white pattaya, Thailand for black guys if you can carry the right african-american "look" overseas.
I think EE countries are much more racist overall, you'd probably have issues in countries like Russia where there's a big neo-nazi contingent now.
Repatriate, is right to a point. If you want to date women form foreign countries who are white your best bet would would be the Western part of Europe and the outside Anglo countries. I am not sure about Canada but the race issue is not as prevalent as in the US. I have seen it as normal thing there and in the UK (Mother to the US) and other English speaking nations. So basically you can try the UK for casual dating but nothing serious. I would try mainland Europe. You can probably find a decent German woman. They are pretty loyal and usually are really good compared to American women.
So Best for European descent/ancestry: Germany, France, Denmark and most of Western Europe. You will be okay in Eastern Europe but you will have to fill it out. I have read stories by black male travelers (American) who have at times had gangs (men) at night go after them. Usually the girls are okay with you sense you are exotic (unusual to normally see a dark skinned guy in Kiev, Ukraine or Budapest, Hungary).
However, language barrier is big in eastern Europe so your best bet would be western Europe.
Anglo Countries: Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and Ireland.
Possibly you can have a serious relationship with someone from Australia and/or New Zealand. They are similar to the US in popular culture. Western Europe, the woman are generally better and they might not have a 'black' fever thing and like you for who you are.
Asian countries: Philippines and possibly Taiwan. You can probably get with Chinese and Japanese woman too. It all depends. It is slightly more difficult but easier than dating in America.
Latin countries can vary but Brazil is good; possibly Colombia and a few others but it is better to ask other members.
Hope this helps a little and welcome to the board. It is good that even African American men are joining up to realize that black (American) women and other ethnic groups in the US are basically the same and other nothing good for men. Also the culture being basically dead of anything. Hope you have a good goal to get out when you have your priorities/goals set.
Out of all the asian countries I would say Phillipines, Japan, and Korea are the best for black men. The reason behind this is that Phillipines is thoroughly westernized and they accept most aspects of American culture. Japan has a niche culture for hip/hop and black guys are fairly popular there (see: Bob Sapp). Korea for much of the same reasons but it's much more ethnocentric when it comes to dating. You would have to play up how hip and American you are and stay away from jealous Korean guys.
I don't think Taiwan is a great choice because Chinese usually have much more derogatory views towards blacks. It's sad but just one of the truths. Taiwan may be somewhat "westernized" but acceptance of this type of interracial relationship could be problematic. I don't know though..Rock may have more info about this from personal observations.
Only downside to Latin countries is that black guys aren't exactly unique there. There's plenty of young handsome black dudes in Brazil who are athletic, speak portuguese, and have great game. There's still plenty of women though..
You'd probably find it incredibly easy to get attention in the UK, France and Germany as an African American. You'll be seen as some kind of cool rapper and all the girls would want a bit of that hip-hop status. But I second the guy who said it'd be more for casual relationships.
As for race in particular- not an issue to any Western European countries I am familiar with. No one cares if you're black. The fact you have an American accent might actually do you some good.
If I were you I'd try out Spain. I loved the country, lots of English speakers, and although they seem to have some racial issues towards South Americans, I think you won't have any problems being black. I'd go for a city, maybe Madrid or Barcelona, and see what you think.
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Iawesome60, you might want to check out Phoenix Sosa's thread of best countries for black men here:
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A lot of this is easy to say- go here or go there. the reality on the ground can be quite different. If you have the extra time and money, go and experience it yourself. For better or worse, race and class consciousness are strong in most of Latin America and Asia. There is a distinct strata even within black cultures where they exist in Brazil and Columbia and others. It is NOT a lack of race consciousness or lack of racism for that matter. I have lived in central America,
Columbia, Argentina and Chile, and crossed though Brazil numbers of times. It is not so common to see European or even mestizos with blacks socially, and many blacks do not much like those classes either. Brazil is not Carnival - once you are outside of Rio it is a much more conservative place.
In East Asia, intermarriage between locals and blacks is uncommon. Remember, these are typically conservative societies, and in some, marrying outside your race is still a major event.
I would not take advice on one's prospects in the Philippines from men whose main experience there is paying bar girls for sex. That is not Philippine's society and impressions from Angeles City will not lead you to success in the rest of the society. As a long term resident in the Philippines, I can tell you that within regular average society, especially middle class economically more prosperous, blacks do not face an easy time here. It's a guest culture, so blacks can get by there, but they will face attitudes just the same- they are soft spoken, but they are there. The N word is quite common though absurdly, locals seem surprised when I tell them that is is very offensive to blacks- and sometimes retort that they saw American blacks using it in American tv programs all the time.
I do know of a girl from Davao who married a black man from Seattle, and no matter that he is one of the more educated and refined people you could ever meet, he still had a tough time getting her family to accept him, though finally his genteel manner and great personal charm has won them over.
What does all this mean? It means you are an individual. Go as you wish as an informed person, but go as an individual willing to quickly adapt and
deal with local conditions. Wherever you go, and no matter your preparations, many things will surprise you wherever you go.
You cannot experience or solve problems from afar. Escape the bullshitters and instead of talking endlessly about it, talk to the folks at the passport office if need be, get squared away and go see for yourself. Much of the world will be as you make it.
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Yeah, I agree. Capital cities are often very different than other parts of those countries.
In Budapest, I once saw a black guy who seemed to be charming some white Hungarian girls. What was he like? He was wearing a suit, looked very fit, and was joking while speaking very good Hungarian--not a feat that's easy to duplicate! I haven't seen such things here on many occasions, though. There are some black guys who live in my building (not close to Budapest), but I've never ever seen them with a girl.
I've never heard of a Hungarian woman marrying a black guy. I haven't even seen such a thing in the tabloids. On rare occasions, white Hungarians and Hungarian gypsies (who generally only have light tan skin) intermarry, which is quite a taboo thing in itself.
So, as I've said before, I wouldn't recommend Hungary for non-white guys, with the possible exception of Budapest. I'm not saying it's impossible, but I just don't think the odds are in favor of non-white guys here.
I once showed a picture of Gloria Estefan to my students, and they recoiled in disgust and said, "Ugh! She looks like a gypsy!"
yeah dude...as far as i know about east europe...well....if your a black guy with dashing good looks and the like. you WILL LOVE east europe. i talk to many of them from bulgaria and serbia. they are so so positive friendly, nice, open, social, gorgeous. i am black american myself. so i have even had three women interested in marrying me. one of them flirted with me on facebook. and said " MARRY ME !!" The other from serbia said, " do you have a family." that kind of thing.
as for russia they love black too. i do not know about the neo nazi thing in russia. all i know is that the women in the east europe and russia like black men. their women are not racist. i personally am not afraid of some nazi thing. i will visit russia anyways. i am a martial artist and will be improving upon it bruce lee style. so just in case.
okay japanese is really really easy. from my experience its very easy. i was there from 2004-06 so it was wonderful. imagine women running up to the front counter of mcdonalds and sayin hi to you all at the same time. hahahaha.
again your good looks are very important. the more good looking you are the better and easier it will be to get a date with foreign women. trust me I can attest to this personally. i am very very handsome, tall, black, right muscular build. i have everything women want. i am a real knight in shinning armour. the whole gentlemen thing is ME. i have been flirted with by western women from italy, france, australia.
denmark women will love you too. i got a few pointers myself from the comments about this one. so it really is a black man's world. hahahaha
hopes this helps.
oh yeah check out mark davis's website for get together with foreign women. ofcourse you have to pay. but there are so so so many women you can meet there and marry.
okay buddy happy foreign woman hunting. hihihihi
I wouldn't call Gloria Estefan great looking, even when she was much younger in the mid 80's Dr Beat and all that stuff. She's a typical fair skin Latina and has typical Latin features, its a bowl of not so good. There tons of better looking Latinas than her.
I know one Hungarian Girl that did marry a Black Man (for legal status) but like Black Men in general (she was f***ing me!). She worked for a porn company but she had more IR porn than any woman I've ever seen. She also had "toys" so I know she beat off to that shit on a regular basis.
You just have to go into social environments, I'm sure a Black Man, especially an American has Pull in Hungry. I don't think you have to wear suits, if your job requires that, then fine, but Americans even if its a negative is casual generally and that might be bad in some cases it works in non-work places. I like urban wear, I don't wear really baggy clothes but I am not wearing girl's jeans either.
I am not so concerned about location, just start MACKING!
I can not comment on most other countries, but you will have no trouble in Thailand. Of course, each woman is unique, but in Thailand there is no prejudice towards Thai/AA couples. Additionally, if you are looking to just casually date or fool around, a lot of young Thai woman seek out AA guys, as it is fashionable right now. Don't be offended if they call you 'Chocolate-Man', though. You should check out Bangkok or Pattaya, you will see what I mean. Good luck!!!
When I was in Patts and BKK, I saw quite a few Black guys and a few AFrican guys having no problem courting these smuts and courting some virtuous cool Thai middle-upper class women.
Hell, no means to sound like a hater, but I had an Afro-Dutch guy steal a plus-sized Thai girl from me after he promised to my face that he wouldn't step to her. LOL Yeah I got played. But oh welps!
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