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Adolf Hitler escaped the bunker

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Adolf Hitler escaped the bunker

Post by zboy1 » April 7th, 2012, 8:18 am

Gerrard Williams - The Escape Of Adolf Hitler




Hitler escaped to Argentina, National Geographic




This one is pretty amazing. Here are the actual files from the FBI own official vault online:

http://vault.fbi.gov/adolf-hitler/adolf ... of-04/view

The actual memo is titled: "Hitler's Hideout." Hitler was reported to be hiding in the foothills of Argentina. He escaped the Russians and Americans by going on a submarine to Argentina.


Supposed photo of Adolf Hitler with his daughter in Argentina and Adolf Hitler in the 1950s:

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1163/749 ... 1960s.html

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Fresh doubts of Hitler's death

Post by zboy1 » April 7th, 2012, 8:38 am

Fresh doubts over Hitler's death after tests on bullet hole skull reveal it belonged to a woman

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1rL0A4sbx

History Channel did a DNA test on Hitler's skull kept in Russia. Found the skull was a female not male. Fast forward to the 43rd minute for the DNA test result.


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I met Hitler in 1967

Post by zboy1 » April 7th, 2012, 9:12 am

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum ... 395064/pg1
I met Hitler in 1967
On the outskirts of Ascension, Paraguay.

I was working as a junior rep for an oil company at the time and I was on leave for two weeks, just bumming around Uruguay and Paraguay, and one of the guys I knew at Procter & Gamble said I should come up and meet him at this dinner party they were having and prepare to have my mind blown.

Hitler was one of the nicest guys I ever met. He was very frail at the time but his English and his manners were perfect. He kept asking me about my favorite hobby (photography) and he said he would give me an old Leica he had, which he would send on to me at my main address in Montevideo. Never arrived though.

I have no idea when he died. 1970 in Argentina, rumor has it.

Thought you might like to know .... Just an oldie on his way out with cancer making a small internet confession before the curtain drops. :-)
Link to picture of Hitler as an old man

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread686904/pg5

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Post by MrPeabody » April 7th, 2012, 7:33 pm

There have also been a lot of sightings of Elvis lately. Maybe they are sharing an apartment.

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Post by Fenix » April 7th, 2012, 7:36 pm

I was researching this a few months ago and I find this fascinating. I love to research and learn about hoaxes, urban legends, folklores, etc.

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Post by MrPeabody » April 7th, 2012, 9:00 pm

In his book "Inside the Third Reich" Albert Speer describes the poor state of Hitler's health and his constant stomach problems. Hitler was so concerned the allies would discover his health problems that he wouldn't go to a regular doctor and the only doctor who was seeing him was believed at that time to be a quack. According to Speer, Hitler didn't expect to live long and was going to retire after winning the war. The last pictures of him also show evidence of Parkinson's disease. It's interesting that the conspiracy theorists don't talk about his serious health problems and the extensive medical care he would have needed.

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Post by zboy1 » April 7th, 2012, 10:19 pm

I recommend the book "Grey Wolf: The Escape of Adolf Hitler," for those interested in the subject:






Did Hitler live to old age here in Argentina?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/fe ... ntina.html

Hitler's Secret Argentine Sanctuary Is for Sale, Say Conspiracy Theorists

http://gizmodo.com/5860250/hit

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Funny Simpsons spoof of Hitler in Argentina


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Post by Winston » August 27th, 2013, 1:41 pm

An interview with Peter Levenda, author of "Ratline" and "Unholy Alliance". He explains how Hitler and Eva Braun escaped to Indonesia, and how he found many clues supporting this when he went there to investigate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgC6b_yGlJo

His interview on Coast to Coast with Ian Punnett.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gRY48i9muQ
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Post by Jester » August 28th, 2013, 4:22 am

MrPeabody wrote: It's interesting that the conspiracy theorists don't talk about his serious health problems and the extensive medical care he would have needed.
You're not addressing the fact that his death was faked, as the skeletal remains demonstrate. If his death was faked, it was faked. His health doesn't change that.

BTW -- "conspiracy theorist" is an unnecessary pejorative. Why not keep it civil here? And anyway, there is no conspiracy mentioned on this thread.

If the FBI is trying to figure out whether some fugitive is really alive, and faked his own death, does that make them "conspiracy theorists"? In the recent manhunt for Dorner here in Southern California, he got trapped and killed. But noone was ready to close the case till the body was conclusively ID'd. Because the guy was resourceful, and had pulled off some surprises before.

No conspiracy here. No secret Nazis running Wall Street. No "Boys from Brazil". No "The Formula".

Just two competing theories.

One theory says Hitler died in the bunker by his own hand. No proof, except testimony of his personal staff, who follow orders unquestioningly. Plausible, other Germans did commit suicide rather than fall into Soviet hands.

Another theory says he escaped. Very plausible, that's what most people try to do, if they have the resources. Being a wartime dictator, Hitler obviously did.

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Re: Adolf Hitler escaped the bunker

Post by Jester » August 28th, 2013, 4:35 am

zboy1 wrote:Gerrard Williams - The Escape Of Adolf Hitler




Hitler escaped to Argentina, National Geographic




This one is pretty amazing. Here are the actual files from the FBI own official vault online:

http://vault.fbi.gov/adolf-hitler/adolf ... of-04/view

The actual memo is titled: "Hitler's Hideout." Hitler was reported to be hiding in the foothills of Argentina. He escaped the Russians and Americans by going on a submarine to Argentina.
Saw something on this before. Read enough that I was convinced. Airplane to Spain, submarine to Argentina. Makes sense. But how did he get out of Berlin to a secure airfield?

(dont want to watch the videos right now)

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Post by Jester » August 28th, 2013, 4:38 am

Winston wrote:An interview with Peter Levenda, author of "Ratline" and "Unholy Alliance". He explains how Hitler and Eva Braun escaped to Indonesia, and how he found many clues supporting this when he went there to investigate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgC6b_yGlJo

His interview on Coast to Coast with Ian Punnett.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gRY48i9muQ
Thought you were going to give up Coast to Coast and Rense and that British mystic David Icke. Some sources are not trustworthy.

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Post by Winston » August 28th, 2013, 5:04 pm

Jester wrote:
Winston wrote:An interview with Peter Levenda, author of "Ratline" and "Unholy Alliance". He explains how Hitler and Eva Braun escaped to Indonesia, and how he found many clues supporting this when he went there to investigate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgC6b_yGlJo

His interview on Coast to Coast with Ian Punnett.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gRY48i9muQ
Thought you were going to give up Coast to Coast and Rense and that British mystic David Icke. Some sources are not trustworthy.
Yeah but it depends on the guest. Some of the guests are good. And this one sounds very informative.

As to the topic, I'm not sure what to make. It is true that the skull fragment that the Soviets had turned out to be that of a woman, who was not the same age as Eva Braun. So they do not seem to have Hitler's remains.

But on the other hand, after WWII ended, Hitler would have had nothing to live for. His dreams and destiny were shattered. So why would he have wanted to continue on? He also believed that failing Nazis should commit suicide, so if he killed himself, it would be in accord with his belief that he espoused onto other Nazis. In fact, he ordered all the German people to commit suicide, so why wouldn't he do that himself too?

Unless of course, he was playacting all along and was working for the Zionists all along, as some conspiracy researchers allege. Either way, he was funded by powerful forces early on, so he likely did started out as an agent for them. But whether he rebelled against his benefactors or did their bidding all along is not clear.
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Post by Jester » August 28th, 2013, 5:38 pm

Winston wrote:
...But on the other hand, after WWII ended, Hitler would have had nothing to live for. His dreams and destiny were shattered. So why would he have wanted to continue on? He also believed that failing Nazis should commit suicide, so if he killed himself, it would be in accord with his belief that he espoused onto other Nazis. In fact, he ordered all the German people to commit suicide, so why wouldn't he do that himself too?
For all he knew, the U.S. and the Soviets would start fighting each other. Patton wanted to do so in 1945, We came close again in 1961 and 1962. (Also in 1973.) Plus there was a workers revolt in East Germany in 1958. And Soviet rule DID end around 1989 (?). Knowing how long all this would take was just guesswork. Hitler didn't have a crystal ball. But he may have clung to the hope that the Allies would withdraw from Germany, and he (or his followers) could return.

After all he had lived through the fall of the Kaiser, defeat in World War One, occupation, communism in Bavaria, Communist gangs in Berlin, and then risen to power. Plus as a soldier in World War One he had miraculously survived the most dangerous assignment, running ammo along trenches. He was used to expecting miracles.

All that, plus he had promised Eva a kid (I bet).

And as a European, knowing history, Hitler was aware of great comebacks and restorations like Napoleon returning to France from exile in Elba.

Winston wrote:
Unless of course, he was playacting all along and was working for the Zionists all along, as some conspiracy researchers allege. Either way, he was funded by powerful forces early on, so he likely did started out as an agent for them. But whether he rebelled against his benefactors or did their bidding all along is not clear.
Early on he took money he knew to be from financiers. But many people take money from people trying to play them, and just figure they will later outsmart the folks who are financing them.

Hitler came DAMN close to doing so. By 1945, the Germans had even invented and tested atomic weapons... but too late.

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Post by gsjackson » August 28th, 2013, 5:50 pm

Winston wrote:In fact, he ordered all the German people to commit suicide
Is that a fact? All German people? Are you sure you aren't confusing Hitler with Jim Jones?

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Re: Adolf Hitler escaped the bunker

Post by Winston » June 7th, 2015, 12:21 pm

Interesting BBC documentary called "Is Hitler Still Alive?" Contains interview clips with witnesses and investigators.

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