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Evidence/Quotes That Allies/Jews Started WWII, Not Hitler!

Postby Winston » February 12th, 2014, 7:18 am

You won't believe these quotes I found by American historians that say that Britain and the Allies caused and started WWII with Germany! WTF?! Are they real? If so, how can this be? They go against the dogma that we've been taught about the Nazis starting WWII for world domination.

Quotes by Winston Churchill floating around also incriminate Britain, saying that it wanted a war with Germany for economic reasons. I've pasted them below as well. Are they legit? Why would Churchill say these things if he had portrayed Germany as the aggressor and Britain as the victim all along? Also below are quotes by diplomats and generals that incriminate the Allies for causing WWII as well.

Quotes by American Historians that incriminate the Allies

"Britain was taking advantage of the situation to go to war against Germany because the Reich had become too strong and had upset the European balance."
- Ralph F. Keeling, Institute of American Economics

"In no country has the historical blackout been more intense and effective than in Great Britain. Here it has been ingeniously christened The Iron Curtain of Discreet Silence. Virtually nothing has been written to reveal the truth about British responsibility for the Second World War and its disastrous results."
- Harry Elmer Barnes. American Historian

"The fact is that the only real offer of security which Poland received in 1938 and 1939 emanated from Hitler. He offered to guarantee the boundaries laid down in the Versailles Treaty against every other country. Even the Weimar Republic had not for a moment taken this into consideration. Whatever one may think of Hitler's government or foreign policy, no doubt exists on this point; his proposals to Poland in 1938/39 were reasonable and just and the most moderate of all which he made during the six years of his efforts to revise the Versailles Treaty by peaceful means."
- Professor Harry Elmer Barnes, American Historian

"The precise effect of the Mutual Assistance Pact was to give Poland a clear signal that aggression and belligerency was tolerable and a warning to Germany that any retaliation would be met by force."
- Sir. Basil Liddell Hart, The History of the Second World War

"The last thing Hitler wanted was to produce another great war. His people, and particularly his generals, were profoundly fearful of any such risk - the experiences of World War One had scarred their minds."
- Sir. Basil Liddell Hart, The History of the Second World War

Quotes by Winston Churchill that incriminate Britain

World War 1

"Should Germany merchandise (do business) again in the next 50 years we have led this war (WW1) in vain."
- Winston Churchill in The Times (1919)

World War 2

"We will force this war upon Hitler, if he wants it or not."
- Winston Churchill (1936 broadcast)

"Germany becomes too powerful. We have to crush it."
- Winston Churchill (November 1936 speaking to US General Robert E. Wood)

"This war is an English war and its goal is the destruction of Germany."
- Winston Churchill (Autumn 1939 broadcast)

"The war wasn't only about abolishing fascism, but to conquer sales markets. We could have, if we had intended so, prevented this war from breaking out without doing one shot, but we didn't want to."
- Winston Churchill to Truman (Fultun, USA March 1946)

"Germany's unforgivable crime before WW2 was its attempt to loosen its economy out of the world trade system and to build up an independent exchange system from which the world-finance couldn't profit anymore. ...We butchered the wrong pig."
- Winston Churchill (The Second World War - Bern, 1960)

Quotes by others about WWII that incriminate the Allies

"I believe strongly in the honourable intentions of your Fuhrer, however, tell him he should not overlook the fact that the ancient hatred of my people against everything German is abysmal."
- Marshall Pilsudski (1867-1935)

"Of all the Germans, Believe it or not, Hitler is the most moderate as far as Danzig and the Corridor are concerned."
- Sir, Neville Henderson, British Ambassador to Berlin, 16th August, 1939

"Poland wants war with Germany and Germany will not be able to avoid it, even if it wants to."
- Rydz-Smigly, Chief inspector of the Polish army in a public speech in front of Polish officers (Summer 1939)

"Now we have forced Hitler to war so he no longer can peacefully annihilate one piece of the Treaty of Versailles after the other."
- Lord Halifax, English ambassador in Washington (1939)

"There will be no peace in Europe until all Polish lands shall have been restored completely to Poland, until the name Prussia, being that of a people long since gone, shall have been wiped from the map of Europe, and until the Germans have moved their capital Berlin farther westwards."
- Henryk Baginski, Poland and the Baltic, Edinburgh 1942.

"Poland's decision of August 30, 1939 that was the basis for general mobilization marked a turning point in the history of Europe. It forced Hitler to wage war at a time when he hoped to gain further unbloody victories. "
- Kazimierz Sosnkowski, Polish General and Government-in-Exile's commander-in-chief, August 31, 1943

"We made a monster, a devil out of Hitler. Therefore we couldn't disavow it after the war. After all, we mobilized the masses against the devil himself. So we were forced to play our part in this diabolic scenario after the war. In no way we could have pointed out to our people that the war only was an economic preventive measure."
- US foreign minister James Baker (1992)

"Not the political doctrine of Hitler has hurled us into this war. The reason was the success of his increase in building a new economy. The roots of war were envy, greed and fear."
- Major General J.F.C. Fuller, historian, England

"We didn't go to war in 1939 to save Germany from Hitler...or the continent from fascism. Like in 1914, we went to war for the not lesser noble cause that we couldn't accept a German hegemony over Europe."
- Sunday Correspondent, London (17.9.1989)

"The enemy is the German Reich and not Nazism, and those who still haven't understood this, haven't understood anything."
- Churchill's chief counselor Robert Lord Vansittart (as said to foreign minister Lord Halifax, September 1940)

End of quotes

Here is a Nazi newsletter by Joseph Goebbels explaining why Britain and Churchill are responsible for WWII. Interesting to hear their side of it.

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb47.htm

It is a major error to assume that England's plutocrats slipped into the war against their will or even against their intentions. The opposite is true. The English warmongers wanted the war and used all the resources at their disposal over the years to bring it about. They surely were not surprised by the war. English plutocracy had no goal other than to unleash war against Germany at the right moment, and this since Germany first began to seek once again to be a world power.

Poland really had little to do with the outbreak of war between the Reich and England. It was only a means to an end. England did not support the Polish government out of principle or for humanitarian reasons. That is clear from the fact that England gave Poland no help of any kind whatsoever when the war began. Nor did England take any measures against Russia. The opposite, in fact. The London warring clique to this day has tried to bring Russia into the campaign of aggression against Germany.

The encirclement of Germany long before the outbreak of the war was traditional English policy. From the beginning, England has always directed its main military might against Germany. It never could tolerate a strong Reich on the Continent. It justified its policy by claiming that it wanted to maintain a balance of forces in Europe.


In the same newsletter, Goebbels commented on how Britain was spreading the false propaganda that Germany wanted to take over the world, when nothing could be further from the truth:

The English warmongers claim that National Socialism wants to conquer the world. No nation is secure against German aggression. An end must be made of the German hunger for power. The limit came in the conflict with Poland. In reality, however, there is another reason for England's war with Germany. The English warmongers cannot seriously claim that Germany wants to conquer the world, particularly in view of the fact that England controls nearly two thirds of the world. And Germany since 1933 has never threatened English interests.


In conclusion, Goebbels emphasized that:

We did not want war. England inflicted it on us. English plutocracy forced it on us. England is responsible for the war, and it will have to pay for it.


As you can see, what Goebbels wrote paints a very different picture of what the Nazis wanted - peace and the avoidance of war - than what is presented to you by Western history, which claims that Hitler wanted to take over the world.

In another newsletter "What Does America Really Want?" Goebbels stated that Germany just wanted to be left alone, yet America kept trying to support a worldwide campaign against them and would not mind their own business. He wrote:

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb28.htm

Was the American president ever personally attacked in the German press, or America's leading men slandered? We have been very restrained, even though we certainly had every reason to discuss this or that matter of American domestic policy.

Such things are not our concern. American statesmen, not us, determine American domestic policy. We are concerned only with Germany's affairs. We also have no reason or intention of smuggling German political ideas into America. The very opposite, since the methods that we use are purely German. They are only valid in Germany. But we do believe that just as we respect the internal affairs of other countries and avoid polemics against them, they should treat us in the same way.

One cannot say that that is true of the United States of North America at present. Nearly the whole press, radio, and film industry support the worldwide campaign against Germany.

Senator Pitman put the matter bluntly on 22 December 1938: "The American people do not like Germany's government."

...We have nothing against the American people. We know and respect their political views and internal affairs, even if we might do things differently. We believe we have the right to expect the same of American public opinion about Germany. We also fail to see the benefits of such controversy. What good will it do America? Does it think it can starve Germany using the same methods as those of the World War?

...It is time to recommend peace and good sense. American public opinion is going the wrong way. It would benefit by returning to the old, tested practices of international courtesy and good manners, and by treating Germany in the way normal among civilized nations.


As you can see, his noble words call for peace, and for Germany to be treated with courtesy and respect, like civilized nations ought to be treated. These are hardly the words of warmongers who want to take over the world.

Here is a clip from the Nazi film "Triumph of the Will (1935)" where Hitler addresses the Hitler Youth and says "The German people must be peace-loving. They must love peace, yet be brave."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C9iUaP51CI

How come the Western media never tells you that Hitler said that? He never said in his speeches that he wanted to take over the world. But I guess actions speak louder than words.
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Re: US Historians/Churchill Say The Allies Started WWII! Loo

Postby Winston » November 27th, 2015, 6:31 am

Was this one of the main reasons for the staging of WWII?

http://www.savethemales.ca/000447.html

According to Barry Chamish, "there would be no modern state of Israel without British Freemasonry. In the 1860s, the British-Israelite movement was initiated from within Freemasonry. Its goal was to establish a Jewish-Masonic state in the Turkish province of Palestine...Initially, British Jewish Masonic families like the Rothschilds and Montefiores provided the capital to build the infrastructure for the anticipated wave of immigration. However, luring the Jews to Israel was proving difficult. They, simply, liked European life too much to abandon it. So Europe was to be turned into a nightmare for the Jews." - See more at: http://www.savethemales.ca/000447.html#sthash.RxyJLiu2.dpuf

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Re: US Historians/Churchill Say The Allies Started WWII! Loo

Postby droid » November 27th, 2015, 6:46 am

Great thread. Good luck getting the dumb masses to even consider any of this.

"We made a monster, a devil out of Hitler. Therefore we couldn't disavow it after the war. After all, we mobilized the masses against the devil himself. So we were forced to play our part in this diabolic scenario after the war. In no way we could have pointed out to our people that the war only was an economic preventive measure."
- US foreign minister James Baker (1992)


That one's interesting :!:
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Re: US Historians/Churchill Say The Allies Started WWII! Loo

Postby gsjackson » November 27th, 2015, 7:58 am

droid wrote:Great thread. Good luck getting the dumb masses to even consider any of this.

"We made a monster, a devil out of Hitler. Therefore we couldn't disavow it after the war. After all, we mobilized the masses against the devil himself. So we were forced to play our part in this diabolic scenario after the war. In no way we could have pointed out to our people that the war only was an economic preventive measure."
- US foreign minister James Baker (1992)


That one's interesting :!:


Yes, and very surprising. You never hear or read anything remotely approaching candor in American public life for the last few decades. And Baker especially was known as someone who played his cards close to the vest.

Very interesting topic. I'll have to check out a couple of those historians.
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Re: US Historians/Churchill Say The Allies Started WWII! Loo

Postby Vegascook » November 27th, 2015, 8:54 am

England and France did in fact initiate hostilities against Germany by declaring war against the Third Reich. The Treaty of Versailles effectively made the Weimar Republic the whipping boy of western Europe because the German nation was legally denied the right to protect itself against any aggression. Kaiser Wilhelm II surrendered based on President Wilson's 13 Point Plan, which would have ensured a lasting peace after WWI. England and France decided to destroy their only commercial and industrial competition through draconian war reparations, the plan eventually backfired and the world wide Great Depression ensued. With their respective economies in complete shambles the Allies tried too late to use a war with Germany to jump start economic activity. France fell and England survived merely because Hitler listened to an incompetent general who allowed the retreating Allied forces to cross the English Channel and provide England with a minimum credible defense to stop an invasion. America was brought into the war by FDR through multiple factors which are barely discussed in US textbooks. Through the Lend Lease Act 60 US destroyers were stripped from the Pacific fleet and given to England, Germany was antagonized while Japan was given the perception of American weakness in the region. The Japanese diplomats were continually insulted and the US government imposed economic sanctions which forced Japan to either invade Manchuria or face the total collapse of a newly industrialized economy. War material were continually shipped across the Atlantic despite American "neutrality" and Germany refrained from declaring war until after Pearl Harbor. The Pearl Harbor attack was anticipated by FDR and allowed to happen, the damage was far beyond what was expected and the US had a quick way to enter the war with massive public support. Economic, diplomatic, industrial, and military coercion were used to provoke the Axis powers and Germany continually refrained from declaring war until England and France pushed the issue. WWII was going to happen no matter what because it was preceded by a failed "peace" treaty which was unjust. There were also several leaders who benefited from another world war as well, so there was virtually no incentive for the politicians to behave.
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Re: US Historians/Churchill Say The Allies Started WWII! Loo

Postby droid » November 27th, 2015, 9:02 am

Vegascook wrote:The Japanese diplomats were continually insulted and the US government imposed economic sanctions which forced Japan to either invade Manchuria or face the total collapse of a newly industrialized economy.


Nice post, but weren't the sanctions put in place after the invasion of Manchuria?
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Re: US Historians/Churchill Say The Allies Started WWII! Loo

Postby Vegascook » November 27th, 2015, 11:05 am

droid wrote:
Vegascook wrote:The Japanese diplomats were continually insulted and the US government imposed economic sanctions which forced Japan to either invade Manchuria or face the total collapse of a newly industrialized economy.


Nice post, but weren't the sanctions put in place after the invasion of Manchuria?


Multiple sanctions were used against Japan both before and after the invasion of Manchuria. Strategic materials such as iron ore and coal were denied to the Empire of Japan by the US government. Manchuria has massive deposits of both coal and iron and the only way Japan could ensure adequate supply of these resources was invasion after the US imposed sanctions. Following the annexation of Manchuria the US imposed another set of sanctions in which Japanese assets were frozen and they could not even use cash to purchase incidental materials. Oil, rubber, coal, iron ore, quinine, sulfur, and many other strategic resources were placed on sanction lists prior to Japan's invasion of China and southeast Asia. Japan is resource poor in that it does not have abundant industrial scale deposits of coal, iron ore, oil, and sulfur. America used this fact to its advantage to restrict the expansion of Japan's military and sanctions did slow the development of the Japanese navy prior to Manchuria's invasion. However, after taking this territory from China Japan had ready access to resources necessary for its steel mills. Subsequent sanctions merely went the last mile to deny Japan access to its money held in American banks. The US tried to put a strangle hold on Japan's economy and as a result they chose to simply take resources from China.
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Re: Evidence/Quotes That Allies/Jews Started WWII, Not Hitle

Postby Winston » May 12th, 2016, 12:33 am

Check out these quotes from a book im reading on kindle called "The Myth of German Villainy", available on Amazon.com. They cite various sources that say that the allies and Jews are the ones that wanted and started WW2 and pushed for its inception. Roosevelt and Churchill were in on it too for personal reasons and were influenced by powerful jews as well.

Its very shocking and disturbing. It looks like Hitler may not have been the bad guy or monster after all. If so, then history owes Hitler an apology. Hitler may very well be the most misportrayed man in history. How did Churchill and Roosevelt sleep at night knowing they caused the death of millions of innocent people just for their personal glory? Unbelievable.

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British historian Nesta Webster wrote in her book, "Germany and England", published in 1938, shortly before World War II began:

“Britons in the past have not been easily worked up to hate, but this insane hatred of two men, Mussolini and Hitler, is being instilled in them by the Jews and those who benefit by them, and acting like a poison in the life blood of our people. Germany is under a visible anti-Jewish dictatorship. We are under an invisible Jewish dictatorship, but a dictatorship that can be felt in every sphere of life, for no one can escape from it. Already the Jews can make or break the career of any man as they please. Once war breaks out we cannot doubt that they will be found in every key position and will hold us at their mercy. Then the real purpose of the world war will become apparent. As long as the Jews do not hold Germany they can never realize their final aim –world domination. Therefore Hitler must be overthrown and Jewish power restored.”

The Polish Ambassador to Washington, Count Jerzy Potocki,
In a report from Washington back to the Foreign Ministry in Warsaw, dated February 9, 1939, he wrote:

“The pressure of the Jews on President Roosevelt and on the State Department is becoming ever more powerful ……The Jews are right now the leaders in creating a war psychosis which would plunge the entire world into war and bring about general catastrophe. This mood is becoming more and more apparent. In their definition of democratic states, the Jews have also created real chaos: they have mixed together the idea of democracy and communism and have above all raised the banner of burning hatred against Nazism. This hatred has become a frenzy. It is propagated everywhere and by every means: in theaters, in the cinema, and in the press. The Germans are portrayed as a nation living under the arrogance of Hitler which wants to conquer the whole world and drown all of humanity in an ocean of blood. In conversations with Jewish press representatives I have repeatedly come up against the inexorable and convinced view that war is inevitable. This international Jewry exploits every means of propaganda to oppose any tendency towards any kind of consolidation and understanding between nations. In this way, the conviction is growing steadily but surely in public opinion here that the Germans and their satellites, in the form of fascism, are enemies who must be subdued by the ‘democratic world.’“

Roosevelt wanted a war to distract attention from his failed economic policies. He also wanted war because he cherished the idea of himself as an heroic wartime president. The Jews who surrounded Roosevelt, such as Henry Morgenthau, Jr., as well as all the other officials in the   Henry Morgenthau, Jr. Roosevelt administration, worked themselves into a fever fantasizing about Nazi Germany’s malevolent intentions.   According to David L. Hoggan, in his paper, “President Roosevelt and the Origins of the 1939 War, “…anyone within Roosevelt’s and Hull’s circle who did not declare that Hitler was hopelessly insane was virtually ostracized.”

Meanwhile, back in the United States, the anti-war movement was growing in strength. One of the leading voices in that movement was that of Hamilton Fish, a leading Republican congressman from New York. Fish made a series of radio speeches to expose Roosevelt’s march to war while claiming that he only wanted peace. On January 6, 1939, Fish told a nationwide radio audience:

“The inflammatory and provocative message of the President to Congress and the world [given two days before] has unnecessarily alarmed the American people and created, together with a barrage of propaganda emanating from high New Deal officials, a war hysteria, dangerous to the peace of America and the world. The only logical conclusion to such speeches is another war fought overseas by American soldiers. All the totalitarian nations referred to by President Roosevelt …haven’t the faintest thought of making war on us or invading Latin America. I do not propose to mince words on such an issue, affecting the life, liberty and happiness of our people. The time has come to call a halt to the warmongers of the New Deal, backed by war profiteers, Communists, and hysterical internationalists [meaning Jews], who want us to quarantine the world with American blood and money. He [Roosevelt] evidently desires to whip up a frenzy of hate and war psychosis as a red herring to take the minds of our people off their own unsolved domestic problems. He visualizes hobgoblins and creates in the public mind a fear of foreign invasions that exists only in his own imagination.”

In another radio address of April 5, 1939, Congressman Fish said:

“The youth of America are again being prepared for another blood bath in Europe in order to make the world safe for democracy. If Hitler and the Nazi government regain Memel or Danzig, taken away from Germany by the Versailles Treaty, and where the population is 90 percent German, why is it necessary to issue threats and denunciations and incite our people to war? I would not sacrifice the life of one American soldier for a half dozen Memels or Danzigs. We repudiated the Versailles Treaty because it was based on greed and hatred, and as long as its inequalities and injustices exist there are bound to be wars of liberation. The sooner certain provisions of the Versailles Treaty are scrapped the better for the peace of the world. I believe that if the areas that are distinctly German in population are restored to Germany, except Alsace-Lorraine and the Tyrol, there will be no war in western Europe. There may be a war between the Nazis and the Communists, but if there is that is not our war or that of Great Britain or France or any of the democracies. New Deal spokesmen have stirred up war hysteria into a veritable frenzy. The New Deal propaganda machine is working overtime to prepare the minds of our people for war, who are already suffering from a bad case of war jitters. President Roosevelt is the number one warmonger in America, and is largely responsible for the fear that pervades the Nation which has given the stock market and the American people a bad case of the jitters. I accuse the administration of instigating war propaganda and hysteria to cover up the failure and collapse of the New Deal policies, with 12 million unemployed and business confidence destroyed. I believe we have far more to fear from our enemies from within than we have from without. All the Communists are united in urging us to go to war against Germany and Japan for the benefit of Soviet Russia. Great Britain still expects every American to do her duty, by preserving the British Empire and her colonies. The war profiteers, munitions makers and international bankers [meaning Jews] are all set up for our participation in a new world war.”

The hero aviator, Charles A. Lindbergh, was also a leading opponent of Roosevelt’s war aims, and went around the country speaking out against going to war with Germany. In his diary entry of May 1, 1941, Lindbergh wrote:

“The pressure for war is high and mounting. The people are opposed to it, but the Administration seems to have ‘the bit in its teeth’ and [is] hell-bent on its way to war. Most of the Jewish interests in the country are behind war, and they control a huge part of our press and radio and most of our motion pictures. There are also the ‘intellectuals,’ and the ‘Anglophiles,’ and the British agents who are allowed free rein, the international financial interests, and many others."

Roosevelt’s motives for wanting a war with Germany have long been the subject of debate. As America’s interests were not threatened in any way by Germany, nor would they be served by a war, Roosevelt’s determination to have a war made little sense…, that is, unless one takes into account Roosevelt’s intimate ties to organized Jewry. As Jewish historian Lucy Dawidowicz noted:

“Roosevelt himself brought into his immediate circle more Jews than any other President before or after him. Felix Frankfurter, Bernard M. Baruch and Henry Morgenthau were his close advisers. Benjamin V. Cohen, Samuel Rosenman and David K. Niles were his friends and trusted aides.”

Roosevelt was totally in thrall to the Jews, owed his political career to the Jews, and had so surrounded himself with Jews, almost to the exclusion of all others, that he essentially became one of them. Their attitudes, motives and goals became his. They hated Germany, so he hated Germany. They were determined to destroy Germany, so he was determined to destroy Germany.

In the summer of 1939 Polish ambassador to Washington, Count Jerzy Potocki returned to Warsaw on leave and was astonished at the calm mood in Poland, compared to the war psychosis that had gripped the West. In a conversation with Polish Foreign Ministry Under-Secretary, Count Jan Szembek, about the growing war psychosis that had gripped the West. Potocki said to Szembek:

“In the West there are all kinds of elements openly pushing for war: the Jews, the super-capitalists, the arms dealers. Today they are all ready for a great business, because they have found a place which can be set on fire: Danzig; and a nation that is ready to fight: Poland. They want to do business on our backs. They are indifferent to the destruction of our country. Indeed, since everything will have to be rebuilt later on, they can profit from that as well.”
From the diary of Count Szembek.
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Re: Evidence/Quotes That Allies/Jews Started WWII, Not Hitle

Postby Moretorque » May 12th, 2016, 1:47 am

Mr. Wu why do I never hear you speak of the banking system ? this is where they get their power to do what they do. Everything else is just a distraction is it not ?

Un backed currencies are the money supply that makes all this possible, the sheople are too dumb to figure it out. Are you a dumb sheep ?
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Postby Vegascook » May 12th, 2016, 4:38 am

The mass media was churning out anti German war propaganda with interventionist messages as soon as the Nazi party became a major contender for power. This trend drastically increased after Hitler assumed power and purged communists within Germany. Communism was outlawed by the Third Reich and brutally suppressed by the Brown Shirts who were the Party's enforcers at the beginning. Communism was essentially a Russian doctrine brought to life by Jewish revolutionaries who slaughtered millions of Russian Christians who were opposed to the creation of an atheist, totalitarian regime which sought the destruction of religion and freedom in every form. Lenin and Trotsky were the two main Jewish leaders who directly carried out more genocide than Hitler has ever been accused of. Death squads, forced labor, seizure of private property, state sponsored starvation of dissidents, and a total socially re-engineered society were the objectives of communism. Fascism arose as an organized resistance to communism since weak democracies allowed communism to infest nation after nation. The rule of law in democracy was used by communist Jews to usurp power and impose their will on the majority. Nazism completely turned Germany around in terms of economics, military, and political stability and the American communists hated that, so they used mass media to demonize Germany and Hitler.

The New Deal along with FDR's other economic policies resulted in a worsening economy which has been measured by statistical data. Seizure of private gold, making it illegal for private citizens to own gold, putting America on a paper currency, wealth redistribution, misguided public works with no appreciable economic benefit, over taxing the wealthy, and publicly bashing the industrialists were but a few of the thousands of bad decisions made by FDR. WWII resulted in the destruction of nearly all consumer goods production outside America. Post WWII America had 90% of the industrial capacity for consumer goods, which resulted in an economic boom. It was not FDR's economic policies that made America wealthy, but rather the fact that the competition had been carpet bombed into nothing over the course of the war. The PR campaign worked and the liberal mushrooms ate the shit fed to them while being kept in the dark about the truth.

Hitler did not have any immediate plans to invade America or any nations protected under the Monroe Doctrine. He actively tried to keep the US out of the war due to American intervention in WWI which tipped the scale against Germany. The Germans wanted revenge for the mistreatment they suffered after WWI and America was the only victor who opposed the Treaty of Versailles. England and France rejected President Wilson's Thirteen Point Plan in favor of reparations which destroyed post WWI Germany. Hitler did however have long-term plans for a war with the US once he conquered England, France, and the Soviet Union.

Our government wisely realized that there would be another war due to the stupidity of England and France. Both nations provoked hatred in every German citizen who suffered as a result of punitive reparations which required huge amounts of currency to pay back. The Weirmar Republic began printing huge amounts of paper currency to satisfy the bankers who demanded payment of the war debt. The mark fell in value to the point that it took suitcases full of paper money to buy a loaf of bread. Life savings, pensions, businesses, homes, farms, and the government were all destroyed. The Nazis reformed the banking system and introduced a new currency while taking care of the economy, business, and personal interests of Germans. The status quo for banking was destroyed by Nazism and bankers became servants of the state rather than masters of it.

FDR campaigned as an isolationist who wanted peace, but once in office he put America on a war policy. Movies, radio programs, newspapers, and activists all supported his covert policy of war against Germany. Germans were pictured as the bad guys while England and France were depicted as victims. On a daily basis the average American was bombarded with war propaganda which urged them to fight fascism. While this PR campaign was being waged against an unsuspecting public the industrialists were secretly retooling their factories for war production. After Pearl harbor there was a near seamless full conversion to a war time economy as business leaders knew ahead of time what the end result would be.
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Re: Evidence/Quotes That Allies/Jews Started WWII, Not Hitle

Postby Winston » May 12th, 2016, 12:25 pm

Moretorque wrote:Mr. Wu why do I never hear you speak of the banking system ? this is where they get their power to do what they do. Everything else is just a distraction is it not ?

Un backed currencies are the money supply that makes all this possible, the sheople are too dumb to figure it out. Are you a dumb sheep ?


Because i am citing quotes from historians and those involved in WW2, and these quotes do not mention anything about the banking system or printing of currency. If you can find quotes by historians or from Hitlers speeches that mention this, then by all means post them. Ive found quotes from Hitlers speeches that do mention "international capital and world trade" though, which i will post here later. But im sure those are all connected to banking. Remember we are citing primary sources in this thread, not conjecture. So find some and quote some if they apply.
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Postby Winston » May 12th, 2016, 1:14 pm

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For a chef in las vegas, you sure know a lot about history. Lol

Thanks for a very elaborate synopsis of WW2 that makes a lot of sense. I have some questions about what you wrote though.

1. You said communism was a russian doctrine brought to life by jews. But werent karl marx and frederick engels both jews? They wrote the communist manifesto. So doesnt that mean that communism is a jewish doctrine?

2. If the jews were behind russian communism, then why didnt they make the Soviet Union prosperous and successful so that the rest of the world would follow its example? Why did communism fail there? Didnt the jews have the power to make anything it wanted to become successful?

3. Why didnt elite jews in russia and america make those two powers into allies after WW2?

4. Instead of attacking the whole nation of poland, why didnt hitler just send german troops or security guards to protect danzig and other german towns in poland, if thats all he wanted to do? Why destroy all of poland and its capitol of warsaw too?

5. You said earlier that if Hitler had killed or captured those 340,000 British troops at dunkirk instead of letting them go, then britain would have been defenseless from invasion. The book i read said that too. How so? Britain had millions of men and a powerful RAF airforce to defend itself. I dont see how 340,000 men would make much difference. I also dont see how britain won the battle of britain since all the odds were against them and they were outnumbered 10 to 1. Logically they had no chance. Did providence or God intervene?

The book i read said Hitler liked Britain and didnt put much effort into conquering it like he should have. He should have captured England and took Winston Churchill and used Churchill as a hostage to bargain with America to back down from the war. He would have had a better bargaining chip that way. Churchill the warmonger deserved to be captured anyway, it would have been poetic justice. Instead Hitler foolishly invaded Russia.

Also when he had the chance to take Moscow, Hitler didnt but elected to go south to capture Ukraines farmlands and the Caucasus oil fields instead. He should have listened to his generals. Had he captured Moscow first, he might have captured Stalin, who was the most evil dictator ever, and weakened Russia considerably. Isnt the goal in chess to take the king? But stalin would have probably escaped Moscow anyway.
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Postby Winston » May 12th, 2016, 1:29 pm

Here is a translated speech transcript by Hitler in Munich in 1923 where he explains why Britain and her allies engineered the first world war to bring ruin to Germany. As you can see, Hitler is very well educated, aware and intellectual about history and world affairs.

"I realised that the fight was not against enemy nations, but against international capital." - Adolf Hitler

"The conflict of interests between Germany and England lay in the economic sphere. Up till 1850 England's position as a world power was undisputed. British trade conquered the world. Germany, owing to her greater industry and increased capacity begins to be a dangerous rival. In a short time those firms which in Germany were in English hands pass into the possession of German industrialists. German industry expands vastly and the products of that industry even in the London market drive out British goods. Forty thousand dead have rendered possible the life of forty millions.  When England in the face of such a Germany as this bid fair to be brought to her knees, then she bethought herself of the last weapon in the armoury of international rivalry - violence. A Press propaganda on an imposing scale was started as a preparatory measure. But who is the chief of the whole British Press concerned with world trade? One name crystallises itself out of the rest: Northcliffe - a Jew! Every week he sends out into the world thirty million newspapers. And 99 per cent of the Press of England is in Jewish hands. So with the most despicable catch-phrases the appeal is made to man's lowest instincts. A campaign of provocation is carried out with assertions, libels and promises such as only Jewish newspapers would have the effrontery to put before an Aryan people. And then at last, 1914: they egg the people on. 'Ah, poor violated Belgium', Up! To the rescue of small nations - for the honour of humanity!' The same lies, the same provocation throughout the entire world. And the success of that provocation the German people can trace grievously enough."
- Munich. 13th April 1923. Hitler's Speeches, Baynes. Royal Institute of International Affairs, 1942.

This quote below corroborates Hitlers explanation for why these two world wars were being started against Germany.

"Joining with Samuel Untermeyer in calling for a war against Germany, Bernard Baruch, at the same time, was promoting preparations for war against Germany. 'I emphasised that the defeat of Germany and Japan and their elimination from world trade would give Britain a tremendous opportunity to swell her foreign commerce in both volume and profit." - Samuel Untermeyer, The Public Years, p.347

Here is a 1939 Reichstag speech by Hitler where he explains that the allies and jews are the warmongers, whereas all he wants is peace.

"The German nation has no feeling of hatred towards England, America, or France; all it wants is peace and quiet. But these nations are continually being stirred up to hatred of Germany and the German people by Jewish and non-Jewish agitators. And so, should the warmongers achieve what they are aiming at, our own people would be landed in a situation for which they would be psychologically quite unprepared and which they would thus fail to grasp. I therefore consider it necessary that from now on our propaganda and our Press should always make a point of answering these attacks, and above all bring them to the notice of the German people.  The German nation must know who the men are who want to bring about a war by hook or by crook. It is my conviction that these people are mistaken in their calculations, for when National Socialist propaganda is devoted to the answering of the attacks we shall succeed just as we succeeded inside Germany herself in overcoming, through the convincing power of our propaganda, the Jewish world-enemy. The nations will in a short time realise that National Socialist Germany wants no enmity with other nations; that all the assertions as to our intended attacks on other nations are lies - lies born of morbid hysteria, or of a mania for self-preservation on the part of certain politicians; but that in certain States these lies are being used by unscrupulous profiteers to salvage their own finances. That, above all, international Jewry may hope in this way to satisfy its thirst for revenge and gain, but that on the other hand this is the grossest defamation which can be brought to bear on a great and peace-loving nation."
- Reichstag, 30th January 1939

"Never have German soldiers fought on American soil, unless it was in the cause of American independence and freedom; but American soldiers were brought to Europe to help strangle a great nation which was fighting for its freedom. Germany did not attack America, but America attacked Germany, and, as the Committee of Investigation of the American House of Representatives concluded: from purely capitalist motives, without any other cause.”
- Reichstag, 30th January 1939.

Below a British government official admitted in 1984 that Hitler was right all along and only wanted peace, not a world war.

“I believe now that Hitler and the German people did not want war. But we declared war on Germany, intent on destroying it, in accordance with our principle of balance of power, and we were encouraged by the 'Americans' around Roosevelt. We ignore Hitler's pleadings not to enter into war. Now we are forced to realise that Hitler was right. He offered us the co-operation of Germany; instead, since 1945, we have been facing the immense power of the Soviet Union. I feel ashamed and humiliated to see that the aims we accused Hitler of, are being relentlessly pursued now, only under a different label."
- The British Attorney General, Sir. Hartley Shawcross, Stourbridge, March 16th 1984 (AP)
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Re: Evidence/Quotes That Allies/Jews Started WWII, Not Hitle

Postby Eric » May 12th, 2016, 2:12 pm

Winston wrote:Vegascook,
For a chef in las vegas, you sure know a lot about history. Lol

Thanks for a very elaborate synopsis of WW2 that makes a lot of sense. I have some questions about what you wrote though.

1. You said communism was a russian doctrine brought to life by jews. But werent karl marx and frederick engels both jews? They wrote the communist manifesto. So doesnt that mean that communism is a jewish doctrine?

Karl Marx and Frederick Engels were both Jews, in part. The communist manifesto and communism was a Jewish creation and doctrine, not Russian.

2. If the jews were behind russian communism, then why didnt they make the Soviet Union prosperous and successful so that the rest of the world would follow its example? Why did communism fail there? Didnt the jews have the power to make anything it wanted to become successful?

From my understanding, the Soviet Union was made to create an atheistic state - which would overthrow the power of the czars, and a force to counterbalance Christendom - and keep it in check. This new creation; once established, would be re-created elsewhere, in other states - and spread as a force destroying each culture and promoting atheism and socialism.
It served its purpose, and went into dissolution at the end of the 20th century.

3. Why didn't elite jews in russia and america make those two powers into allies after WW2?

Please, see my response to Question 2.
4. You said earlier that if Hitler had killed or captured those 340,000 British troops at dunkirk instead of letting them go, then britain would have been defenseless from invasion. The book i read said that too. How so? Britain had millions of men and a powerful RAF airforce to defend itself. I dont see how 340,000 men would make much difference. I also dont see how britain won the battle of britain since all the odds were against them and they were outnumbered 10 to 1. Logically they had no chance. Did providence or God intervene?

I don't know enough historical information about this to respond.

The book i read said Hitler liked Britain and didnt put much effort into conquering it like he should have. He should have captured England and took Winston Churchill and used Churchill as a hostage to bargain with America to back down from the war. He would have had a better bargaining chip that way. Churchill the warmonger deserved to be captured anyway, it would have been poetic justice. Instead Hitler foolishly invaded Russia.

Hitler knew the Allies were networked in with each other. He realized the strategic disaster of doing what you're saying. He tried to fend off war and find a peaceable solution as much as possible; but the Allies were determined to destroy Germany, entirely.


Also when he had the chance to take Moscow, Hitler didnt but elected to go south to capture Ukraines farmlands and the Caucasus oil fields instead. He should have listened to his generals. Had he captured Moscow first, he might have captured Stalin, who was the most evil dictator ever, and weakened Russia considerably. Isnt the goal in chess to take the king? But stalin would have probably escaped Moscow anyway.
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Re: Evidence/Quotes That Allies/Jews Started WWII, Not Hitle

Postby Moretorque » May 12th, 2016, 2:27 pm

Vegas Chef, there is a book that goes into all this recently written by Mike King called " The Bad War "....

There is an interesting point to point out, in 1850 around the time the Communist Manifesto was written the head quarters for the world wide communist party was in England or the biggest club so to speak, communism is just another name for a dictatorship. Also Das Capital was written in the London Museum .... ? The London Museum is funded by the Bank of England or the Citi Corp.

All roads go back to the CITI and financiers who have been operating out of there for the last 200 years of history ?

The Ashkenazi Jews out of Europe control the money and this is their system we live under plain and simple.....

They figured long ago democracies commit suicide and why ? because 90% of the populace are idiots and are easily controlled like cattle. Just put some #'s on a piece of paper and "Go Charge " and the idiots do your bidding through a system they call credit. Power is in #'s and they know the majority are child like cattle, the people who are doing this know their history and they rely on the fact most don't!
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