Did the Nazis do anything wrong?

[Yohan]

Re: Did the Nazis do anything wrong?

Yes, they did. The only 'excuse' is maybe to mention that the others next to the Nazis were nothing better. For Stalin a human life had no value.

Around 1940 - a horrible time - a human life was nothing, like zero. Less value than even animals. Same everywhere not only in Europe and Russia - same in Japan, in China, in Korea...

[Yohan]

Dictators are all suffering earlier or later, when they are successful of megalomania.
They cannot stop and want to expand their power even more, dreaming to rule the world and this is always going wrong.
We see this even with USA nowadays. Whatever USA is trying to do outside of its own territory past WWII fails...

They were unable to finish successfully the Korean conflict, the country is divided into 2 parts.
They lost the Vietnam War,
Afghanistan - I see no progress at all
Iraq - after declaring themselves as the winner there is now the Islamic State,
Libya is a chaos, much worse than ever before
Somalia nothing changed despite frequent interventions....
Syria, Assad is still in power and the Russians helping him...

Can you imagine if USA had used all their money for their own country, inside of USA?

Same problem was with Germany around 1935. They should have taken some smaller areas next to them, but to try to invade Russia was wrong, just look at a map and see how large their territory is....

Megalomania is a problem with many dictators. It's not only about former Germany.
Japan had similar problems with their leaders during WWII.

[Cornfed]

Dictators are all suffering earlier or later, when they are successful of megalomania.
They cannot stop and want to expand their power even more, dreaming to rule the world and this is always going wrong.
We see this even with USA nowadays. Whatever USA is trying to do outside of its own territory past WWII fails

The policies of the USA are probably more evil than stupid, since they seem to have been serving the interests of criminal elites rather than the America people for at least the last hundred years.

Same problem was with Germany around 1935. They should have taken some smaller areas next to them, but to try to invade Russia was wrong, just look at a map and see how large their territory is....

They would claim that attacking Russia was their only chance of stopping an imminent Russian offensive against Western Europe. This is supposedly why the Germans were able to encircle massive numbers of Russian troops and capture lots of supplies near to the border. Instead of being spread out in multiple defensive lines the Russians were bunched up near to the border poised to attack. If true, I don’t see what better choice the Germans really had.

[Yohan]

They should have fortified the Russian-Polish border and wait - to attack Russia while the winter season is beginning, is a totally crazy decision. It's suicide. Megalomania.

Stalin was a clever man, he cheated the Germans with a contract to cut Poland 50/50. When the Germans came, the Russians did not show up as promised.

They should continue the occupation of Poland up to the Russian-Polish border and fortify it and wait for the next spring.

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Later on USA also made wrong decisions. They should have kept their war operations in the Pacific, but not fighting later on against the Germans. Basically USA was helping the Russian invasion into Europe instead of weaken the influence of Stalin.

Anyway this is all history now, even the Soviet-Union does not exist anymore.
We have to live with our present problems and have to think about our future.

[Gadfly]

^^
so what do *you* think they should have done differently?

[HouseMD]

Dictators are all suffering earlier or later, when they are successful of megalomania.
They cannot stop and want to expand their power even more, dreaming to rule the world and this is always going wrong.
We see this even with USA nowadays. Whatever USA is trying to do outside of its own territory past WWII fails

The policies of the USA are probably more evil than stupid, since they seem to have been serving the interests of criminal elites rather than the America people for at least the last hundred years.

Same problem was with Germany around 1935. They should have taken some smaller areas next to them, but to try to invade Russia was wrong, just look at a map and see how large their territory is....

They would claim that attacking Russia was their only chance of stopping an imminent Russian offensive against Western Europe. This is supposedly why the Germans were able to encircle massive numbers of Russian troops and capture lots of supplies near to the border. Instead of being spread out in multiple defensive lines the Russians were bunched up near to the border poised to attack. If true, I don’t see what better choice the Germans really had.

Russia wasn't planning to attack Germany. They had trips there hoping to assist Germany, as that was as close as they could possibly get them. Stalin was actually heartbroken when Hitler turned on him- he had thought they were good friends, and didn't leave his room for a week after the attack. He just couldn't understand why the Germans had turned on him, when they could have worked together and divided up Europe quite nicely.

[Winston]

How Hitler Could Have Won WWII - History lecture on CSPAN

[Winston]

To answer the OP's question:

Yes and no. The Nazis were wrong to invade so many European countries during WW2, especially Poland, which they pulverized. And they were wrong to break the non-aggression pact with Stalin. They were also wrong to kill innocent Jews, regardless of whether the Holocaust was exaggerated or not.

However...... the Germans themselves had been victimized, brutalized, murdered and starved for years prior to WW2, so you can't blame them for naturally wanting revenge for what had been done to them. The Germans were the VICTIMS during World War One. They never started WW1 and had no reason to. They never wanted a world war and had no motive to want one. Prior to WW1, Germany was the dominant economic power in Europe and was number one in Europe in international trade. So Germany had NOTHING to gain in a world war and did not need one, whereas Britain, France and Russia did, since they were jealous of Germany's success and had a motive in bringing it down. That's why they conspired to start WW1 to destroy Germany's economy, and try to pin the blame on Germany for it.

Germany prior to WW1 was a newly formed nation and republic. For centuries the Germans and Prussians were peaceful and had never started any senseless wars. So why would they suddenly wake up one day in 1914 and decide to start a war of conquest? It makes no sense. Read these books from Amazon.com: "The Myth of Germany Villainy" and "The Bad War: The Truth Never Taught About World War II". Also listen to Benjamin Freedman's one hour speech in 1961, posted on YouTube, which is very revealing and informative.

So overall, during WW1 millions of Germans were killed senselessly, for no fault of their own. Their economy was destroyed and so was their status as the European leader in world trade. To make matters worse, many Germans starved to death during the years after WW1, due to the unfair terms of the Treaty of Versailles that Germany was forced to sign under duress, not free will, thus rendering it null and void. (These sanctions against Germany are eerily similar to the economic sanctions imposed over Iraq by the UN after the Gulf War, which also starved many innocent Iraqis. So it seems that such Zionist tactics are repeated throughout history.)

So you see, Germany had a perfect natural right to be angry after all that and seek revenge during WW2. That's why Hitler was so popular and ripe for rise. That's why the Nazi party had so much support and was able to capture the hearts and passion of the German people. Hitler took advantage of all that of course. But you can't blame the Germans after what they'd been through. Every nation and people that suffers such injustices will naturally seek vengeance after that, including America. After all, if America felt justified to seek revenge in the Middle East for the death of a puny 3,000 on 9/11, then Germany would have a far greater right to seek revenge for the death of millions during WW1 and in the years after. Western history doesn't take this into account, but it should.

Hope that puts things in perspective.

[Winston]

Finally, a book that brings justice and fairness to Hitler's side of WW2. A must read for any truth seeker and historian. The pictures of Hitler on the front cover of the book (above) sure make him look very kind and caring. Wow I never knew such positive photos of Hitler existed.



Mein Side of the Story: Key World War 2 Addresses of Adolf Hitler

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*145 Pages / 100 Illustrations*
Our system of justice grants 'prima facie' murderers, rapists and serial killers the opportunity to speak, does it not? Indeed, convicted killers like Charles Manson, David ‘Son of Sam’ Berkowitz, Richard Speck, Jeffrey Dahmer and others have done televised interviews. Even the erroneous and dangerous ranting of Karl Marx is taught, no, glorified, in American Universities.

So, what is so gosh-darn dangerous about merely presenting the opinion of Hitler’s Germany? If that opinion is as evil and as fallacious as it is said to be, then why not present the full story, and then logically refute it? Truth is its own defense, so what is there to fear about simply hearing “the other side”? Do we really believe in “free speech” and “academic freedom” or do we not? Are we like retarded little children that need to be shielded from mere words? Or is somebody hiding something? Hmmm?

In the purportedly American belief that no one has the right to deprive you of access to information, the purpose of putting together 'Mein Side of the Story' is merely to present Germany’s version of the events in regard to the great catastrophic bloodbath known as World War II. This is Hitler’s side of the story, revealed in his own spoken and written words. Only the brief ‘Mein Side’ blurbs and captioned illustrations have been added. A pair of wartime addresses by German Foreign Minister von Ribbentrop and one from Japanese Emperor Hirohito are also included.

The speeches and writings are all 100% authentic. Some have been slightly abridged in order to avoid redundancy and to keep the booklet to a brief length. Modern “court historians” and journalists do not deny the content of these addresses. They can’t. Instead, they simply ignore them, childishly denouncing anyone who does attempt to resurrect them as “Nazi”, or “anti-Semitic”.

The common theme that runs throughout these addresses is that Germany, and also Japan, believed that World War II was imposed upon them. You don’t have to agree with that assessment. You don’t have to like it. In fact, you can even laugh at it. But it is their point-of-view, or at least, their stated point-of-view. It is a position that, until now, you have not been permitted to even hear. Indeed, it is only via the miracle of the Internet that these documents have again become accessible to those willing to snoop around and dig them up from the memory hole of buried history.

Do with these words as you will. Just don’t shoot your humble messenger for putting these highly interesting addresses together for your consideration.