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What if Germany Had Won World War II

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What if Germany Had Won World War II

Post by jamesbond » August 4th, 2016, 2:07 pm

Here is a great video series explaining what would happen if Germany had won World War II.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSCuE7jmFa4[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qsdxkRhapU[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRcVGO1s9Sw[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkDf_cNNA6k[/youtube]
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Re: What if Germany Had Won World War II

Post by Winston » August 10th, 2016, 8:03 am

Even if Japan and Germany had won and established their empires -- one in Europe/Russia and one in Asia -- empires never last for long anyway. Most empires collapse after their founder, conqueror or emperor passes away, because people prefer local government, not centralized foreign government. So the conquered nations of WW2 would probably have rebelled and broken free eventually.

But even if Germany and Japan had won WW2 and controlled both Europe and Asia long term, so what? Both those nations are very civilized and efficient and developed the highest technology, so most likely they would have brought prosperity to their empire and run them very well. Hitler brought prosperity to Germany and ended poverty and unemployment, by having the German government print its own government rather than borrowing from the central bankers with usury and high interest. If he had applied that to all of Europe, and gotten rid of the central banks there, then all Europeans could have become prosperous and well off financially. He also would have brought strong moral values too, and not allowed degeneracy, liberalism and socialism to develop. He also would have saved Eastern Europe from falling to Communism, which brought ruin to Eastern Europe and which its people regret today. Instead, under Hitler, Eastern Europe could have been prosperous.

And even if Japan had captured China and controlled it, then all the massive tyranny and deaths that Mao ZeDong brought to China could have been prevented. Instead, China would probably have been more efficiently run and managed under Japanese rule, just as Taiwan had been for 50 years under Japanese rule, which vastly improved its infrastructure. As such, China's infrastructure may have been greatly improved as well, under Japanese rule. Moreover, since Japan has a knack for developing new technologies, they probably could have improved China in various ways as well, especially if they were able to utilize the huge labor force of China under their control.

Therefore, a German and Japanese victory during WW2 would not have been so bad as you were led to believe. As they say, "History is the propaganda of the victorious."
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Re: What if Germany Had Won World War II

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Re: What if Germany Had Won World War II

Post by Cornfed » August 10th, 2016, 10:27 am

Taken at face value, obviously the bad guys won WWII (and WWI, the American Civil War etc.).

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Re: What if Germany Had Won World War II

Post by jamesbond » August 10th, 2016, 1:35 pm

The_Adventurer wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzz_6dmv03I[/youtube]
Holy shit that looks good, I will have to check it out when it becomes available.
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Re: What if Germany Had Won World War II

Post by The_Adventurer » August 10th, 2016, 2:23 pm

jamesbond wrote:
The_Adventurer wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzz_6dmv03I[/youtube]
Holy shit that looks good, I will have to check it out when it becomes available.
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Re: What if Germany Had Won World War II

Post by Yohan » August 10th, 2016, 5:01 pm

Winston wrote: But even if Germany and Japan had won WW2 and controlled both Europe and Asia long term, so what?
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And even if Japan had captured China and controlled it, then all the massive tyranny and deaths that Mao ZeDong brought to China could have been prevented. Instead, China would probably have been more efficiently run and managed under Japanese rule, just as Taiwan had been for 50 years under Japanese rule, which vastly improved its infrastructure.
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Therefore, a German and Japanese victory during WW2 would not have been so bad as you were led to believe. As they say, "History is the propaganda of the victorious."
Who knows?
There is something true with your comment regarding Japanese rule in Asia, and it's not only about China and Taiwan.

Korea would be still one country (or colony) and for sure the Northern part would be much better off than it is now, the Korean War would not exist.
Philippines likely economically better off under Japanese rule than it is now
maybe even Vietnam too...the Vietnam War would not exist.

Some territory might be Japanese and not Russian now.

USA did NOT do a good job past WWII in Far East and South East Asia, just my opinion.

but it's all IF and IF and IF....

For sure all these people who have been in power at that time are dead now.

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Re: What if Germany Had Won World War II

Post by Ghost » August 10th, 2016, 5:47 pm

We would all be speaking Nazi.

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Re: What if Germany Had Won World War II

Post by Moretorque » August 10th, 2016, 8:35 pm

Ghost wrote:We would all be speaking Nazi.
Instead we speak in Ashke/Nazi ?, to me it is obvious who created the Nazi Party or called it the Nazi party.

I heard Germany called themselves National Socialist, I think all the corporations giving Germany it's war making ability in WW 2 were owned by the Elite financiers who were primarily Ashkenazi who love to kill dumb goy.................. Good for population control............ :wink:

I think Germany was completely parted out in WW 1 and it was all a complete façade just like today. Not to say Germany didn't give them a good run for the money with a good showing,
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Re: What if Germany Had Won World War II

Post by El_Caudillo » October 1st, 2016, 8:50 am

Has anyone watched the Man in the High Castle series? I am a big fan of the book. What did you think? The book is kind of kooky with characters using the I Ching to make decisions. The I Ching is an ancient Chinese text where basically you make decisions based on throwing matchsticks. My ex-girlfriend used it once to decide whether to break up with me - and actually it ruled in my favor, i.e. told her not to break up lol. Anyway I can't imagine that working on US TV - so I imagine the I Ching is no longer included?

Any good links for downloading this series?
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Re: What if Germany Had Won World War II

Post by The_Adventurer » October 1st, 2016, 9:06 am

El_Caudillo wrote:Has anyone watched the Man in the High Castle series? I am a big fan of the book. What did you think? The book is kind of kooky with characters using the I Ching to make decisions. The I Ching is an ancient Chinese text where basically you make decisions based on throwing matchsticks. My ex-girlfriend used it once to decide whether to break up with me - and actually it ruled in my favor, i.e. told her not to break up lol. Anyway I can't imagine that working on US TV - so I imagine the I Ching is no longer included?

Any good links for downloading this series?
The I Ching and mystical stuff is still a big part of the story. While the basics of it is a world where the Nazis and Japanese won the war, the undercurrent of mysticism is still important. Although I never read the book, the series is very well done.
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