Amanda Knox - Is she guilty or innocent of murder in Italy?

[jamesbond]

Interesting video, looks like she is guilty as sin. Also, any man who thinks she attractive needs to have his head examined. She is barely average looking, of course with tons of make up on, that will make her look a little better.

[Winston]

Adama,
Since you're a Christian who believes in demons and conspiracies, what do you think of this theory. Since the murder of Meredith Kercher happened right after Halloween, then how about this:

Theory 1:

Many occult experts and Christians say that Halloween is a Black Sabbath holiday where demons and ghosts will come out for the night. So if that's so, then perhaps Amanda Knox and the other guys were possessed by demons or spirits while they were on drugs? After all, drugs open a doorway where one can become possessed or connect with other dimensions right? Especially since Amanda and her boyfriend were a bit weird and had strange dark hobbies, it seems, which could have made them predisposed to violence or sadistic killings, at least in theory. And if they were on hard drugs, not just marijuana, then this opens the door to that possibility right? So if they were possessed, then maybe evil spirits or demons made them commit that murder, which they wouldn't usually do. What do you think? After all, this murder happened the day after Halloween.

Theory 2:

Or, this could have been an Illuminati or Satanic ritual sacrifice by powerful people. If so, then maybe they had the police frame Amanda and the two guys. After all, if you research the Franklin pedofilia cover up scandal, you see that the elites behind the pedofilia rings were in control of the police and FBI, so this kind of cover up has happened before. Maybe since Meredith Kercher wasn't as promiscuous as Amanda Knox, maybe Meredith served as the "virgin sacrifice" in the ritual?

What do you all think? Adama?

[Contrarian Expatriate]

It is a shame that so many men can be duped by a young, female psychopath like Knox. Her responses about the murder SCREAM deception if you know anything about deviations from baseline behavior and how they relate to lying.

Knox would be rotting in jail if she were obese and 15 years older at the time!

The scary thing is that the dupes who are making excuses for her are the same manginas who would be white knighting for your scalp at the false allegations of a similar female. Have we learned anything from the history of the Salem Witch Trials? There is no wonder why Islamic courts render women's testimony 50% the value of men's. I wonder if we should be doing the same!

[jamesbond]

Knox would be rotting in jail if she were obese and 15 years older at the time!

The scary thing is that the dupes who are making excuses for her are the same manginas who would be white knighting for your scalp at the false allegations of a similar female. Have we learned anything from the history of the Salem Witch Trials? There is no wonder why Islamic courts render women's testimony 50% the value of men's. I wonder if we should be doing the same!

In America, it seems as if a man's testimony has half the value of a woman's testimony (just the opposite of how it is in Islamic courts). In the US, women can falsely accuse a man of rape (rape shield laws prevent the woman's name from being released to the pubic) the man's name is released to the public and if he is found not guilty he still has the stigma of being accused of rape (even though the rape charge wound up being false).

[gsjackson]

It is a shame that so many men can be duped by a young, female psychopath like Knox. Her responses about the murder SCREAM deception if you know anything about deviations from baseline behavior and how they relate to lying.

Knox would be rotting in jail if she were obese and 15 years older at the time!

The scary thing is that the dupes who are making excuses for her are the same manginas who would be white knighting for your scalp at the false allegations of a similar female. Have we learned anything from the history of the Salem Witch Trials? There is no wonder why Islamic courts render women's testimony 50% the value of men's. I wonder if we should be doing the same!

Very true, though that twisted little psycho of a boyfriend lied as much as Knox did. Couldn't open his mouth without telling a whopper, which he subsequently retracted when confronted with facts. Some interesting little factoids about him: carried a knife around with him all the time, smoked pot every day, busted for porn depicting rape and violence against women and bestiality porn, attacked a girl with scissors in elementary school, totally dependent on the money of Daddy, who called him constantly (and did his best to buy an acquittal). In the early morning of the murder he enjoyed a half hour playlist on his computer with a decidedly homicidal theme (which, of course, was part of the irrefutable evidence contradicting their story that they slept in until 10:30, a story Knox is telling again).

Winston, it's just a matter of semantics as to whether this can be characterized as demonic possession. Yeah, they got drugged up, got in touch with the dark side and let the monsters within take over. If demonic means anything, it's that. I don't think any of the Illuminati had access to the flat. Knox did, and she alone.

[Adama]

If you are a sociopath then you are a open to demonic possession at any time, drugs or no drugs. If you know that they say your body is the temple of God, well these sociopaths are the temple of demons. Demons reside with them in companionship. Was she demonically possessed though? I can't say.

Winston, in your essay against Christianity, don't you tell us that something demonic happened to you on Halloween or the day before?

[Mr S]

There should be a 4th option in the poll called "who cares or gives a shit anymore"....

[Winston]

There should be a 4th option in the poll called "who cares or gives a shit anymore"....

If you dont give a shit then dont post in this thread. Simple as that. But if you study this case, you find that it is indeed fascinating, entertaining and complex. Its like a brain teaser with many turns and twists. If you watch the BBC documentary above you will see that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erla7Ley4Tw

Plus its an unusual case because a nice white girl from a nice middle class family murdering another nice white girl from a nice middle class family is unusual and unheard of. Most murderers come from f***ed up families and have f***ed up childhoods. But amanda and the victim meredith had happy childhoods and good backgrounds. So this is a very unusual case.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

Plus its an unusual case because a nice white girl from a nice middle class family murdering another nice white girl from a nice middle class family is unusual and unheard of. Most murderers come from f***ed up families and have f***ed up childhoods.

Not really because most "nice white" girls simply have murders accomplished on their behalf by boyfriends or other white knights who they manipulate into doing such deeds for them.

Show me a murder, and I'll show you a situation where a woman was either directly or indirectly involved in the motive. Romantic jealousy, money to get women, or bravado to impress a woman are why men murder others.

[Winston]

You guys,
You say that Amanda's boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito was a psycho too. But if you look at his photos and videos, he looks even more innocent than she does. He looks very nice and harmless. And he even comes across as sweet and charming too. With short hair he looked like Harry Potter. And with long hair he looks like a young version of michael j fox. Take a look below at his interview on a talk show in Italy and you'll see what i mean. He looks like the most unlikely kind of guy that would murder anyone. Especially a girl he doesn't even know.

Do you think he could be innocent and just trying to cover for Amanda because he loves her and can't bear to see her go to jail forever? He reportedly told his family that he could not bear to implicate Amanda because then she would be "lost forever".

[Mr S]

There should be a 4th option in the poll called "who cares or gives a shit anymore"....

If you dont give a shit then dont post in this thread. Simple as that. But if you study this case, you find that it is indeed fascinating, entertaining and complex. Its like a brain teaser with many turns and twists. If you watch the BBC documentary above you will see that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erla7Ley4Tw

Plus its an unusual case because a nice white girl from a nice middle class family murdering another nice white girl from a nice middle class family is unusual and unheard of. Most murderers come from f***ed up families and have f***ed up childhoods. But amanda and the victim meredith had happy childhoods and good backgrounds. So this is a very unusual case.

You should still add a fourth option so you can see if there is really a majority that could care less about this thread. Not posting doesn't allow my point of view without posting here then getting ramrodded for posting a dissenting opinion about the whole matter.

[Winston]

Check out this movie on lifetime cable channel called "Amanda Knox: Murder on Trial in Italy". Its a dramatization of the Amanda Knox case and the actress that plays her is very cute and good. Its very engaging, entertaining and well done. The film draws you in and hooks you.

This film is very pro-prosecution too, because it presents many details and facts in the courtroom and interrogation scenes that are very incriminating and damning that cannot be explained away except by her guilt. I found the whole film on YouTube if you wanna see it. Its only about 80 min. Links below.

Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsZTz9CcQPI

Full film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e5KFmPjs4I

It also shows how fun italy is in the beginning of the film. It shows an italy that has beautiful architecture, culture, vibe and a great social scene. You immediately see the vibe of Europe and how different it is with America where people are antisocial and paranoid and only care about working and being left alone.

Its a great portrayal of the social atmosphere in Perugia, Italy, which reminds me of Krakow, Poland, which i been before. It shows how in Italy, one can just show up and have fun and meet people in an open, inclusive, fun, freespirited social environment. You dont have to have a pre-existing social group to have fun or friends, like you would in America or Taiwan. Nor do you have to break into a clique or be part of the "cool crowd" or "in crowd" to go out and have fun with others, like you would in America or Taiwan.

Thats why its so liberating and refreshing and to me represents "true freedom". To me, true freedom means being able to go out and have fun and meet people without having a clique or pre-existing social group. It doesnt mean being able to vote in a bogus democratic election like the US media defines freedom as.

In addition the rich refined culture and architecture of Europe makes me feel like home. My soul and personality really connects with it and i feel like i have a long history there and many past lives there as well.

Every time i see a film like this, i wanna kick myself for not going back to Europe sooner. Europe has everything you could want, especially if you are a freespirit type who is open minded and likes meeting new people. And you are not a serious workaholic type who lives to work and sees your work as a religion and your job as your God, and are antisocial and closed and dont like meeting new people, which unfortunately is how most Americans and Taiwanese are.

[Adama]

What's your net social worth, Winston? Because if you are not of equal or greater net social worth compared to them, then why should they waste their precious time on you? These people really believe they can measure their value or social net worth by the number of cool friends they have. So you better have a number of cool friends to prove you're a worthy person, of high social net value, otherwise you're some loser who has no friends.

It's right up there with the women who would prefer to marry a divorced man rather than a never been married man because the divorced man has been in a relationship before.

[Winston]

What's your net social worth, Winston? Because if you are not of equal or greater net social worth compared to them, then why should they waste their precious time on you? These people really believe they can measure their value or social net worth by the number of cool friends they have. So you better have a number of cool friends to prove you're a worthy person, of high social net value, otherwise you're some loser who has no friends.

It's right up there with the women who would prefer to marry a divorced man rather than a never been married man because the divorced man has been in a relationship before.

Not true at all adama. Youre talking out of your ass. Europe isnt like that. I dont need any social worth. If im interesting and sociable thats enough. People there are more open and inclusive. They like talking to strangers. They're not paranoid ane antisocial like the US. The vibe is totally different and laid back. Even older men can party there. The social scene is a totally different vibe. Not toxic like the US. Ive been to europe and i can say you are totally wrong. Watch the amanda knox lifetime movie above and you will see. Its very realistic.

Its very important to be in a culture and environment you connect with. Thats just as important as getting dates and making friends. You also shine more vibrantly when you fit into the culture, which makea you more attractive as well and gives you more charisma.

[Winston]

Btw all,
Eurobrat told me that public duende is from perugia, italy. Wow is that so public duende? If so, what do you think of that town? Is it as fun and open as the movie above portrays? And what do you think of the Amanda Knox case?

I will PM this post to you public duende, in case you dont see it.