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Alleged Cop-Killer Christopher Dorner Has Region on Edge

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Post by expatasiaseeker » February 10th, 2013, 3:46 pm

Cornfed wrote:
momopi wrote:OK, this guy is pissed off, I get it. So if you're pissed off at someone, do you go and shoot that person's kids?
Of course I would never suggest anyone break any law, but to answer the abstract moral question, I would say yes, if necessary. As far as I am concerned, there is a war going on in the West, with the pigs and their families being on the other side. Therefore, any killing of them could be seen as self defense or a justified act of war.
Exactly. You really think the WIVES of these corrupt cops don't know that their husbands are corrupt? They know full well and they are sharing in the proceeds of their crimes, their money. The wives of these cops know full well that their husbands are criminals and they do nothing about it.

If the woman actually had integrity, she would demand her husband to STOP being a criminal and start being a good cop, or else she will divorce him and no longer be a part of his family. So by staying and being a part of the corrupt cop's family, she is also guilty of associating with and supporting a criminal, and thus is a legitimate target.

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Post by Billy » February 10th, 2013, 3:49 pm

i wonder when there would be a red button to galvanize the world. how many would do it? sometimes you have to push the button and galvanizeeee.

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Post by expatasiaseeker » February 10th, 2013, 3:50 pm

Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
abcdavid01 wrote:Contrarian Expatriate:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Teichm%C3%BCller

Oswald Teichmuller. It's a fallacy to say his contributions to mathematics are worthless because he was a Nazi.
Your analogy is a foolish one. Mathematics is a generally object discipline, Dorner's social commentary is full of his opinions, most of which are illogical and full of delusions of grandeur.

Anyone able to recognize clinical pathology can recognize elements of Cluster B personality disorders, pathological justification (You all made me kill that innocent girl), and grandiosity in giving advice to celebrities during his 15 minutes of infamy. The rambling nature of his writing is indicative of either a period of bipolar elation, stimulant drug use, schizophrenia, or something else a mental health professional could better identify.

On many levels, he is mentally ill and will justify any of his acts by blaming someone else.

To you young bucks out here so angry that you would relate to the Chris Dorners of the world. Don't let your displeasure with American society cloud your judgement. Chris Dorner is no hero. Anyone with half a unit of sense can see that he has a personal agenda which he is trying to justify to gain sympathy and support.

Anyone else like abcdavid01 who supports this public menace, why don't you show yourselves so we know just what we are dealing with on this forum?
Shut the f**k up with that bullshit, you anti-freedom fascist. PSYCHIATRY is a BOGUS SCIENCE created by zionists (google the history, or read Henry Makow's site if you don't believe me) to enslave people's minds and to help usher in a police state. Also, it destroys people's brains and abilities to think clearly, just so that the drug companies can make billions of dollars a year.

http://antipsychiatry.org/

Read that website and learn the truth. It's written by a REAL medical doctor, not some bogus quack science psychologist or psychiatrist.

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Post by expatasiaseeker » February 10th, 2013, 3:52 pm

The_Hero_of_Men wrote:@Contrarian Expatriate


I don't agree with killing at all (unless I'm in a kill-or-be-killed situation), let alone the killing of innocents. However, I can understand why he does what he does, even if I personally disagree. The man felt screwed over. How do you see he was supposed to react?
That's the point, 90 percent of people on Facebook are SUPPORTING him. They are not supporting his killing but they support him and understand how he was totally screwed over by the system and it caused him to snap.

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Post by abcdavid01 » February 10th, 2013, 10:36 pm

Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
abcdavid01 wrote:Contrarian Expatriate:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Teichm%C3%BCller

Oswald Teichmuller. It's a fallacy to say his contributions to mathematics are worthless because he was a Nazi.
Your analogy is a foolish one. Mathematics is a generally object discipline, Dorner's social commentary is full of his opinions, most of which are illogical and full of delusions of grandeur.

Anyone able to recognize clinical pathology can recognize elements of Cluster B personality disorders, pathological justification (You all made me kill that innocent girl), and grandiosity in giving advice to celebrities during his 15 minutes of infamy. The rambling nature of his writing is indicative of either a period of bipolar elation, stimulant drug use, schizophrenia, or something else a mental health professional could better identify.

On many levels, he is mentally ill and will justify any of his acts by blaming someone else.

To you young bucks out here so angry that you would relate to the Chris Dorners of the world. Don't let your displeasure with American society cloud your judgement. Chris Dorner is no hero. Anyone with half a unit of sense can see that he has a personal agenda which he is trying to justify to gain sympathy and support.

Anyone else like abcdavid01 who supports this public menace, why don't you show yourselves so we know just what we are dealing with on this forum?
I was actually referring to you saying all of Yakuza's posts, which you previously agreed with, were retroactively invalidated just because Yakuza supports this guy.

As for Dorner, I don't think his note has delusions of grandeur or anything. Nor do I find it particularly rambling. He knew he was going to die, so he simply said all he had to before he died.

Yes, it is a personal vendetta. That does not a priori invalidate his case.

As for mental health, certainly mental health classifications are social constructs (homosexuality used to be classified as mental illness and imo still should be), but unlike Leftists I do not think something is invalid merely because it is a construct. Constructs are useful, but also open to criticism. They sit in a nebulous space between objective and non-objective.

As a reactionary I actually take a rather unorthodox view of things. I could be called a fascist, but only because I think freedom can only occur in stability. Otherwise it is not freedom, but anarchy. Basically I believe in patriarchy.

You'll note that I never specifically said I supported Dorner. I just said he's not crazy. Even if someone makes a rational assessment, it can still be a wrong assessment. Frankly I'd like to know all the facts first. There's bits of truth and moral justification on both sides. I'd like to see the whole picture.

It's a danger to society not to take people like Dorner seriously, if only to prevent similar killings from others. The unibomber had a point as well, even if he was wrong logically or morally.

Why do you feel so strongly Contrarian Expatriate? Is there some kind of personal experience at play? Not that it would invalidate your position, but I would like to know what angle you are coming from.
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Post by Ghost » February 11th, 2013, 3:27 am

It's no secret that the workplace in particular has a tendency to drive hopeless men over the edge into doing things they would normally never even seriously consider.

There was the phenomenon of "going postal" in the past decades, and then the 90s started the school shootings focus. That shouldn't surprise anyone. Violence can be many things, but in America it is often a reaction against hopelessness, a nihilistic and corrupt culture, and the imminent feeling of being trapped. So it isn't surprising that violence is increasing because of these structures of school and workplace - these are huge symbols of the way the sheep are dominated by TPTB. A very few decide they can't take being sheep anymore even though they surely know that wake up calls are useless.

This could be the start of something new, and it seems strange to me the more I think about it. The police is an inherently corrupt and violent system, and one of the largest symbols of our slavery to the state and rotten culture it enforces. The vast majority of police appear to have no problem in accepting this and even revel in their false authority over and abuses of the sheep.

And now this guy - a cop who sees the corruption and has taken some action about it. Of course, this has come some time after he was fired. He either was okay with being part of a corrupt system at some point and wouldn't have done this without being fired, or he would have done this anyway because the corruption was too much for him regardless of his employment with the Low-down Asshole Punk Dipshits.

But if this kind of thing continues - and I am sure TPTB are trying to contain this more than other violence since this could easily hurt their political aims - then people will, perhaps en masse, start to see the corruption more and more. A student shooting up a school is one thing that is easily used for gun control. A cop shooting people shows that the system is vulnerable, corrupt, and not to be trusted so much more than a student or worker committing violence does.

Maybe this will serve as a wake up call after all - one that is heeded by at least some.
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Post by Rocky Top » February 11th, 2013, 5:08 am

Really? Is this guy really worth $1 million reward and the first use of drones on American citizens?

Fugitive alleged LAPD-killer is first drone target on U.S. soil

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Post by abcdavid01 » February 11th, 2013, 6:09 am

Oh shit. Yup, it's leave the country time. First they let women in combat, now they use drones on U.S. soil. This country has gone to Hell. It's scary.
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