That's why people have to be truthful from the very beginning about what it is they want out of a relationship. A relationships based on lies and deception is one destined to fail miserably, sooner or later. And if it's later rather then sooner, chances are the couple is left forever haunted by visions of "what could have been", even after they break up. Our time on earth is precious, too precious to waste it with someone who doesn't share the same dreams and goals as us.Jester wrote:Well-stated.
That's the flip side of PUA... and the same applies to men who want a gf but who don't want children. Yes, the woman basically lies, goes along in order to draw the man in, but she yearns and expects him to then "do the right thing".
The man can be totally truthful and yet do damage.
Being a man means using judgement about where you stick it.
Apparently, in the Bible, the penalty for screwing a woman but denying her children, was death. (Genesis chapter 38)
If you want children, find a partner who wants them too. If you don't want them, find someone who feels the same way. Anything else is a lie, and a lie is a no-good foundation to build your future on.