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Suicide rate for AW has increased since 1999 - CNN Report

Post by Winston » June 9th, 2018, 6:43 am

Suicide rates are up now in the US, especially among women, with a significant increase since 1999, a CNN report says.

U.S. suicide rates up, especially among women, but down for black males
https://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/22/heal ... index.html

Why would American women want to commit suicide? Don't they have it all in the US? Isn't everything going for them? Maybe liberals and feminists have a warped twisted soul, so they do weird things? Probably, I would guess, most of these suicides are done by liberals and atheists. You don't usually hear of conservatives or right wingers or Christians committing suicide, which to them is considered cowardly and immoral. Conservatives and right wingers are usually too sane, moral and authentic to do such a thing.

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The successful fashion designer and magazine editor Kate Spade also committed suicide in her luxurious Manhattan apartment. Why would someone rich and successful wanna kill herself? Makes no sense. Not logical.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/05/us/k ... index.html

Aren't these people who do this afraid that they will go to hell or a place that's worse than here? What if they reincarnate and have a shittier life, such as being born as a beggar in the Philippines or Africa and having nothing to eat and no money? Don't they consider that? Don't they consider that everything could be worse for them in their next life? Or are they atheists who don't believe in any afterlife or continuation of the soul?

@Adama why aren't these people afraid they could go to hell or a worse place? Don't they have any fear of the unknown? Or are they godless atheists who expect no afterlife? Or are they possessed by demons and hence have no self control over what they do? Why don't these people try to get professional help?
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Re: Suicide rate for AW has increased since 1999 - CNN Report

Post by Adama » June 9th, 2018, 6:59 am

I can only speculate that for some people they believe that regardless of anything they've done, death is always an end to suffering.
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Re: Suicide rate for AW has increased since 1999 - CNN Report

Post by Yohan » June 9th, 2018, 5:23 pm

Winston wrote:
June 9th, 2018, 6:43 am
.....Why would American women want to commit suicide? Don't they have it all in the US?

The successful fashion designer and magazine editor Kate Spade also committed suicide in her luxurious Manhattan apartment. Why would someone rich and successful wanna kill herself? Makes no sense. Not logical.

Aren't these people who do this afraid that they will go to hell or a place that's worse than here?

Or are they godless atheists who expect no afterlife?
You need not be an atheist to commit suicide - Here in Japan suicide is widely considered as something which requires bravery - and people are mainly Buddhists. There is nothing in Buddhism which says suicide is not acceptable. As a fact, Japanese Buddhist monks committed painful forms of suicide in the past to become enlightened. Some of their remains are still for display in Japanese temples.
The Japanese government does not encourage such a way of thinking however in any form.

This article itself is widely misleading and avoids to give clear statistics. It's always about 'poor women'.

We have to see a difference between suicide attempt and successful suicide.

Successful suicide outnumbers women vs. men 1 vs. 3.5 - this means out of 10 people about 6 to 7 are men and 3 or 4 are women.
These figures are about the same everywhere, worldwide.

More women than men try to commit suicide, but they fail to do it successfully.

It is also a difference is somebody opts for suicide because of being terminally ill and in pain facing death anyway soon - if this person is full with drugs and alcohol and has no idea what he (or she) is doing - of if people are carefully planning ahead to commit suicide for a reason we cannot understand easily and know exactly what they are doing.

Personally I think - but I cannot prove it of course - if people after committing successfully suicide, get a second chance to reconsider their decision - many would not do it again.

However if a person is strongly insisting to commit suicide, he will try it again and again, it is not possible to prevent it, even if you have a personal contact with him and really try to help.

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