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April 11th, 2019, 11:32 pm
Blah, the sad thing about Julian Assange is all his work really amounts to nothing when you have a brain-dead population and capitalism in place. For example, take Hillary's emails on Libya:

https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/20 ... ervention/
Newly disclosed emails show that Libya’s plan to create a gold-backed currency to compete with the euro and dollar was a motive for NATO’s intervention. The email identifies French President Nicholas Sarkozy as leading the attack on Libya with five specific purposes in mind: to obtain Libyan oil, ensure French influence in the region, increase Sarkozy’s reputation domestically, assert French military power, and to prevent Gaddafi’s influence in what is considered “Francophone Africa.”
Why isn't that talked about? Why aren't people marching in the streets? Gaddafi was certainly not killed for humanitarian reasons. He had a plan to create a new African Union, based on a new African economic system. He wanted to introduce the Gold Dinar to back African currencies. At the time of Gaddafi’s death by French President Sarkozy, driven by NATO forces - Libya’s gold reserves were estimated at close to 150 tons, and about the same amount of silver. The estimated value at that time was $7 billion.

For France this was bad news. This would mean lower revenue for French/EU companies and overall lower money in the systen. The French Central Bank, the Banque de France, backs the West and Central African Monetary Union’s currency, the CFA franc. The West African Central Bank, for example, is covered, i.e. controlled, by about 70 per cent of the Banque de France. Banque de France has an almost total control over the economy of its former West African colonies.

What's that you say? France holds, owns and profits from interest on the foreign currency reserves of 14 African states ($20 billion) who must deposit 50% (down from 90% where it started) of their foreign exchange reserves and all revenue earned outside of the Union, into a Central Bank in France. This means that after paying just 0.75% in interest to the African states, the French government keeps the rest as collateral = promissory notes aka 'EUROS'. It was created by France in the late 1940s to serve as a legal tender in the European country’s then-African colonies. As part of the currency’s existence and maintenance, France holds 50 percent of these countries’ foreign reserves to guarantee that the CFA franc stays convertible into euros at a fixed exchange rate. Good deal for France.

Of cource France is not the only 'empire' still raking in a nice profit from a very dodgy period in history, with the help of African political crooks half of every dollar coming in to Africa is being funnelled out illicitly within a year. There is strong evidence of sustained capital losses to all African economies from illicit financial flows into Tax Havens, Investment Funds, etc but not always illegal. Many are tempted to blame corrupt Africans but corruption accounts for a tiny part of this illicit outflow- less than 5% by some estimates, with traditional forms of crime like drugs and illegal weapons trade accounting for around 25%. Most - 65% - of these "illicit financial outflows" are accounted for by trade mispricing - a specialty of multinationals.

Gaddafi’s plan for Africa would have meant an entirely new banking system for Africa, away from the western (mainly France and UK) central banks dominated African currencies. As a first step, Gaddafi offered this lucrative and very beneficial alternative to other Muslim African states, but leaving it open for any other African countries to join. Gaddafi also wanted to detach his oil sales from the dollar, i.e. no longer trading hydrocarbons in US dollars, as was the US/OPEC imposed rule since the early 1970s. Other African and Middle Eastern oil and gas producers would have followed. In fact, Iran had already in 2007, a plan to introduce the Tehran Oil Bourse, where anyone could trade hydrocarbons in currencies other than the US dollar. That idea came to a sudden halt, when Bush (George W) started accusing Iran of planning to build a nuclear bomb which was, of course a pretext to stop the Tehran Oil Bourse which would have lowered the need for dollars, and thereby costing American elite and investors around the world billions of dollars.

Gaddafi also wanted to introduce, or had already started introducing into Africa, a wireless telephone system that would do away with the US/European monopolies, with the Alcatels and AT&Ts of this world, which dominate and usurp the African market without scruples. Yes, the gold Dinar was totally unacceptable to western leaders.

Europe should be most interested in re-establishing order and a real economy in Libya - cleaning it from a murderous Mafia that promotes drugs and slave trade ending up in Europe. Libya was economically and socially a successful country, arguably the most successful in Africa. Prosperity from oil was largely shared by Gaddafi with his countrymen. Libya had a first-class social safety net, an excellent transportation infrastructure, free medical services, and modern hospitals, equipped with latest medical equipment, free education for everyone – and students could even receive scholarships to study abroad. Now you have a complete failed state and right-wingers talking about stupid shit like LGBT rights, feminist and all of "them" coming to Europe. Guess what, you're being genocided by your own people.
To answer the questions in your second paragraph: Every fiber of the corporate media's being, every minute of airtime or paragraph of print, for almost three years, has been devoted to distracting attention away from Hillary Clinton's malfeasance. That's what the whole Russiagate hoax was about. The emails that Wikileaks dropped had the potential to be enormously damaging to Clinton. They showed that Clinton and the DNC rigged the primaries to take the nomination away from Sanders, and that she knew the U.S. was giving money to ISIS. Not to mention the pedophile stuff with the Podestas -- and believe me, there's something to it. Just have a look -- it's way beyond weird.

Opponents of the Deep State have been trying to hang Libya and the Benghazi mess on Clinton for years, but the media won't allow it to penetrate. Maybe that's about to change. Maybe all the videos out there showing her reaction to Qadaffi's death by bayonet sodomy -- "We came, we saw, he died," then cackles like the witch she is -- will start to get the millions of views they deserve (though count on Youtube to shut them down before that happens).


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Cornfed wrote:
April 12th, 2019, 6:01 am
BTW, whatever we think of Manning, should we not look up to Manning? That person, whatever we think of that person, has a lot more balls (figuratively if not literally now) than any of us ever will.
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gsjackson wrote:
April 12th, 2019, 6:18 am
pitbull wrote:
April 11th, 2019, 11:32 pm
Blah, the sad thing about Julian Assange is all his work really amounts to nothing when you have a brain-dead population and capitalism in place. For example, take Hillary's emails on Libya:

https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/20 ... ervention/
Newly disclosed emails show that Libya’s plan to create a gold-backed currency to compete with the euro and dollar was a motive for NATO’s intervention. The email identifies French President Nicholas Sarkozy as leading the attack on Libya with five specific purposes in mind: to obtain Libyan oil, ensure French influence in the region, increase Sarkozy’s reputation domestically, assert French military power, and to prevent Gaddafi’s influence in what is considered “Francophone Africa.”
Why isn't that talked about? Why aren't people marching in the streets? Gaddafi was certainly not killed for humanitarian reasons. He had a plan to create a new African Union, based on a new African economic system. He wanted to introduce the Gold Dinar to back African currencies. At the time of Gaddafi’s death by French President Sarkozy, driven by NATO forces - Libya’s gold reserves were estimated at close to 150 tons, and about the same amount of silver. The estimated value at that time was $7 billion.

For France this was bad news. This would mean lower revenue for French/EU companies and overall lower money in the systen. The French Central Bank, the Banque de France, backs the West and Central African Monetary Union’s currency, the CFA franc. The West African Central Bank, for example, is covered, i.e. controlled, by about 70 per cent of the Banque de France. Banque de France has an almost total control over the economy of its former West African colonies.

What's that you say? France holds, owns and profits from interest on the foreign currency reserves of 14 African states ($20 billion) who must deposit 50% (down from 90% where it started) of their foreign exchange reserves and all revenue earned outside of the Union, into a Central Bank in France. This means that after paying just 0.75% in interest to the African states, the French government keeps the rest as collateral = promissory notes aka 'EUROS'. It was created by France in the late 1940s to serve as a legal tender in the European country’s then-African colonies. As part of the currency’s existence and maintenance, France holds 50 percent of these countries’ foreign reserves to guarantee that the CFA franc stays convertible into euros at a fixed exchange rate. Good deal for France.

Of cource France is not the only 'empire' still raking in a nice profit from a very dodgy period in history, with the help of African political crooks half of every dollar coming in to Africa is being funnelled out illicitly within a year. There is strong evidence of sustained capital losses to all African economies from illicit financial flows into Tax Havens, Investment Funds, etc but not always illegal. Many are tempted to blame corrupt Africans but corruption accounts for a tiny part of this illicit outflow- less than 5% by some estimates, with traditional forms of crime like drugs and illegal weapons trade accounting for around 25%. Most - 65% - of these "illicit financial outflows" are accounted for by trade mispricing - a specialty of multinationals.

Gaddafi’s plan for Africa would have meant an entirely new banking system for Africa, away from the western (mainly France and UK) central banks dominated African currencies. As a first step, Gaddafi offered this lucrative and very beneficial alternative to other Muslim African states, but leaving it open for any other African countries to join. Gaddafi also wanted to detach his oil sales from the dollar, i.e. no longer trading hydrocarbons in US dollars, as was the US/OPEC imposed rule since the early 1970s. Other African and Middle Eastern oil and gas producers would have followed. In fact, Iran had already in 2007, a plan to introduce the Tehran Oil Bourse, where anyone could trade hydrocarbons in currencies other than the US dollar. That idea came to a sudden halt, when Bush (George W) started accusing Iran of planning to build a nuclear bomb which was, of course a pretext to stop the Tehran Oil Bourse which would have lowered the need for dollars, and thereby costing American elite and investors around the world billions of dollars.

Gaddafi also wanted to introduce, or had already started introducing into Africa, a wireless telephone system that would do away with the US/European monopolies, with the Alcatels and AT&Ts of this world, which dominate and usurp the African market without scruples. Yes, the gold Dinar was totally unacceptable to western leaders.

Europe should be most interested in re-establishing order and a real economy in Libya - cleaning it from a murderous Mafia that promotes drugs and slave trade ending up in Europe. Libya was economically and socially a successful country, arguably the most successful in Africa. Prosperity from oil was largely shared by Gaddafi with his countrymen. Libya had a first-class social safety net, an excellent transportation infrastructure, free medical services, and modern hospitals, equipped with latest medical equipment, free education for everyone – and students could even receive scholarships to study abroad. Now you have a complete failed state and right-wingers talking about stupid shit like LGBT rights, feminist and all of "them" coming to Europe. Guess what, you're being genocided by your own people.
To answer the questions in your second paragraph: Every fiber of the corporate media's being, every minute of airtime or paragraph of print, for almost three years, has been devoted to distracting attention away from Hillary Clinton's malfeasance. That's what the whole Russiagate hoax was about. The emails that Wikileaks dropped had the potential to be enormously damaging to Clinton. They showed that Clinton and the DNC rigged the primaries to take the nomination away from Sanders, and that she knew the U.S. was giving money to ISIS. Not to mention the pedophile stuff with the Podestas -- and believe me, there's something to it. Just have a look -- it's way beyond weird.

Opponents of the Deep State have been trying to hang Libya and the Benghazi mess on Clinton for years, but the media won't allow it to penetrate. Maybe that's about to change. Maybe all the videos out there showing her reaction to Qadaffi's death by bayonet sodomy -- "We came, we saw, he died," then cackles like the witch she is -- will start to get the millions of views they deserve (though count on Youtube to shut them down before that happens).
That's interesting, but the fact is all of this is inherent to pure capitalism. That's what you're suppose to do. Get all the money and f**k your enemies. Donald Trump is just as corrupt as Hillary Clinton. Only the progressive social democrats policies would fix the system. Unfortunately, White Americans have been voting for Republicans and Republican light (Centrist Democrats) for the past 40+ years. Switching to Trump makes absolutely no difference when you have an economic system (what you call the Deep State) that dictates how you should be doing things. Dismantling US foreign policy = less money. Trump (being low IQ) didn't know all of this in the beginning. Now he does and is completely on board. Spreading women's rights equals more money for rich people -- as you add labor competition, etc, etc.

This is why the demographic change can't happen fast enough. OLD white Americans are stuck in their way of thinking and will keep pushing capitalism till the end.

Summery: You're NOT an opponent of the Deep State unless you're a progressive social democrat.
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All US policy is driven by pure capitalism aka the Deep State.

150 tonnes of gold in Libya isn't going to set the world on fire; it's worth only about $7 billion. No, what the US didn't and does not want is for someone or other to set up another reserve currency that would gradually grow and displace use of the almighty US greenback in one corner of the world.

The US is similarly annoyed with China (what do you think is behind Trumps hate on China) for setting up the AIIB, the Asia Infrastructure Investment Bank. Wouldn't want a competitor for the World Bank, now would we? The World Bank is no different from a payday loan outfit, always willing to lend a bit more than a person (country) can pay back. Then when a principal payment is due and cannot be paid, "sympathetic'" advisers appear who tell the bankrupt country what public asset they can flog off at pennies on the dollar to pay back the loan. Works like a charm. Ask Argentina, Mexico or Greece and the guy on the street indebted to legalized loan sharks. The poor always pay.

This is such a great little earner for the kleptomaniac oligarchs of the US in particular, you cannot have people going off somewhere else to borrow in god forbid, something other than a US dollar. China's being a bad boy right now and in league with the devilish Russkies no less, so the US buzzes its islands with military aircraft, or tries to pack the skies of the Baltic sea to let them Russians know who's the boss.

This gives me an idea for a new article! The Deep State is pretty much everyone in America. In short, the USoA is a get rich scheming group of bastards who warped the shit out of the education system so the rich didn't have to compete with the next generation... they left open the doors though for anyone super smart to keep the whole system going and competitive in the world. In other words, just a mass of people who have no real organization or understanding of what is going on... they just want more stuff :lol:
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By capitalism I assume you mean the central banking system through which Jewish supremacists and a few nefarious fellow travelers keep their boot on the necks of the world's economies and plunder most of their wealth. How what little wealth they allow the polity to retain should be distributed, for maximum productivity as well as equity, is a matter for pragmatic experimentation, not ideology. Post-war European social democracy seemed like a pretty good model, but it's gone now, squeezed out by a pincer movement of the Jewish left and Jewish right.

There is some reason to think Trump intends to torpedo the Fed. If he does, he will qualify for Rushmore, imo.

As to PAG's points about how the culture and education system in the U.S. have produced a population of self-serving morons -- couldn't agree more.
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gsjackson wrote:
April 12th, 2019, 4:14 pm
By capitalism I assume you mean the central banking system through which Jewish supremacists and a few nefarious fellow travelers keep their boot on the necks of the world's economies and plunder most of their wealth. How what little wealth they allow the polity to retain should be distributed, for maximum productivity as well as equity, is a matter for pragmatic experimentation, not ideology. Post-war European social democracy seemed like a pretty good model, but it's gone now, squeezed out by a pincer movement of the Jewish left and Jewish right.

There is some reason to think Trump intends to torpedo the Fed. If he does, he will qualify for Rushmore, imo.

As to PAG's points about how the culture and education system in the U.S. have produced a population of self-serving morons -- couldn't agree more.
No, I mean capitalism. Sorry to say, but you really haven't thought this through @gsjackson. The system works well, it’d work great and there would not be any corruption or repeated “banking collapses” if the transparency of what is going could be seen by everyone using the system.

Let's break this down

1. The United States experimented with various institutional arrangements for regulating banks and currency, with rulemaking left largely to the states before the Civil War, followed by a period of nationally regulated banking in the decades after. Those who had capital wanted to see conservative monetary policy to safeguard against inflation, which would lower the value of their financial wealth. On the other side of the coin, those who needed capital to grow their businesses and farms tended to favor more liberal policies that eased access to credit, even at the risk of sparking inflation or a potential unstable banking system. The more established parts of the country — the wealthier cities of New England and the Mid-Atlantic, for example — often were in the former camp. Growing areas to the West and South were frequently in the latter. And each coalition had their political supporters.

The responsibilities of the Federal Reserve include influencing the supply of money and credit; regulating and supervising financial institutions; serving as a banking and fiscal agent for the United States government; and supplying payments services to the public through depository institutions like banks in the pursuit of full employment and stable prices.

The problem is unfiltered capitalism. The structural motive in capitalism is to seek profit regardless of social or environmental cost. In capitalism, the motive is always to get as much money as you can, even if you're making people pay 10x what they really should. Corruption is encouraged by the competitive motive of capitalism. Whether it's banking scams, or cutting corners on product safety to increase profit margins, this is all just a pursuit of the profit motive. Common decency would make most people think those things are wrong but it is discouraged by the system and undermined. Competition and capitalism will always tend towards monopolies and oligopolies, they serve the goal of defeating competition and gaining profit, so it's no big surprise that big businesses over and over again try to establish these oligopolies and monopolies.

Shutting down the Fed? Really? Is that some kind of joke? Explain how that would fix anything..

2. Post-war European social democracy? Lol, which one? Switzerland has a prosperous and modern market economy with low unemployment, a highly skilled labor force, and a per capita GDP among the highest in the world. As of 2016, Switzerland had the highest average wealth per adult, at $561,900. Of course that number is probably the same for upper class white Americans (which is why they're always crying about socialism). Anyway, what does it matter if it's Jewish if it works? Only 16 percent of American workers get paid leave from their employers and wages for lower end workers are dropping. In Australia, a left-wing country, you can get a $70,000/yr job in a few days with just basic skills and some overseas exp. They also have a world-class social safety net:

Free college, free healthcare, 30k new house bonus, austudy payment, carer Allowance, maternity payment, newstart allowance, parenting payment, pensioner education supplement, special benefit, youth allowance and get this: Australia hasn't had a recession in 27 years!



Right wing pundits will tell you that low taxes is all you need lol. Here's the results of ring-wing policies:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/20 ... -and-burns

Kansas has been a disaster, with giant budget shortfalls, service cuts, slashed education budgets and a brain drain with young people leaving the state. The economy has failed to keep up with growth in the rest of the country and is much weaker in terms of job gains, wage increases and gross domestic product growth than neighboring states with similar economies. In 2015, for example, Kansas had one of the worst job growth rates in the country, at 0.8 percent, adding just 10,900 nonfarm jobs.

In the five years before Donald Trump was elected president in 2016, no state economy performed worse than Kansas. Things became so bad that Kansas decided to simply stop updating the public about state economic news. There's no reason to do this other than to obscure the obvious: Kansas's wounds were self-inflicted. Yet despite the obvious failures in Kansas, Trump has championed that state, and not California, as his preferred model for economic growth via big tax cuts and deregulation.

Oh, and lets not forget this https://www.thebalance.com/what-caused- ... is-3306176
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Summary: The rich got together and figured out how to get their way with something called the Southern strategy. It was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against Blacks. It worked. The rich have NOW stripped the poor of just about everything. The median American household has $11,700 in the bank. The top 1% by comparison just under $1.3 million. To be a 1 percenter, you need to have an adjusted gross household income of at least $500,000. The top 1 percent account for 1.4 million individual income tax returns — out of 141.2 million total. To be part of the top 0.1 percent, which represented ONLY 141,205 returns in 2015, your adjusted gross household income needed to be at least $2.2 million. Entry to the top 0.01 percent, representing 14,120 returns, required adjusted gross income of $11.9 million or more. The top 0.001 percent had adjusted gross income of at least $59.4 million that tax year. Just 1,412 returns came from those taxpayers. So I guess that means most Jews in America are middle class but probably wouldn’t need to borrow or sell something to afford a $400 emergency expense. No wonder they are always pushing for social democracy. Total number of Jews in America: 6 million. If you define Jews only by those who practice the religion, Pew counted 4.2 million Jewish Americans. In 2016, Modern Orthodox Jews had a median household income of $158,000, while Open Orthodox Jews had a median household income at $185,000 (compared to the American median household income of $59,000 in 2016).

However, the major sources of wealth for most of the super rich are inheritances (TRUMP) and in life transfers. The top 10 percent of White Families Own Almost Everything. White families hold 90 percent of the national wealth. Hispanic families hold 2.3 percent of the national wealth. Black families hold 2.6 percent of the national wealth.
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How did he get arrested? I thought he was protected under asylum?

Did anyone see the Julian Assange movie "The Fifth Estate"? It was pretty good.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1837703/?ref_=tt_rec_tt

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The trick is going to be keeping the Brits from killing him for a year. If we get him here he can put the final nail in the coffin of the Democratic Party by proving that they killed Seth Rich for leaking the emails. But since the Brits are at the heart of the coup against Trump, it's hard to imagine how the administration can protect him.

Corny, Assange was in the Ecuadorian embassy.
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Cornfed wrote:
April 13th, 2019, 3:14 am
Wow, now the former President of Ecuador has been banned from Facebook for opposing Assange's arrest. It just shows that there is a globalist regime that we really must depose.

https://www.rt.com/news/456366-rafael-c ... k-blocked/
DO NOT BELIEVE RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA FROM RT

Facebook will block ANYONE that posts someone's bank statements like Correa was doing.

"When asked about the page’s removal, a Facebook spokesperson said the social media company prohibits users from sharing private personal information like financial records that may “compromise the identity of people using our platform.”

Correa has been posting information online about an offshore bank account allegedly used by the brother of Ecuador’s current president, Lenin Moreno, to stash millions.

Moreno is Correa’s ex-ally-turned-nemesis and has not been directly tied to the account."

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-wor ... el-correa/
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What’s the update? This popped up, and people were talking about how he was going to be extradited to the USA to participate in a kangaroo trial. Since then I’ve heard nothing.
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