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Why is white pride a taboo but other racial prides are ok?

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Post by Jester » December 29th, 2012, 11:58 am

ChineseChristian wrote:Okay, I don't want to go into issues of national or ethnic pride...but I somehow have the mild impression that most people who frequently focus on "white pride" consciously or subconsciously think of minorities as genetically inferior.
I apologize for jumping in without having read the whole thread...

but isn't White Pride quite similar to the anti-imperialist stance that Yakuza takes, for example?

Whites wanting to have their own culture, without forced cultural imperialism?

I think that's a better analogy than to Black Pride etc (I agree with the lady's point above, I do think it is not about equality).




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Post by Winston » February 11th, 2013, 8:07 pm

Freethinker George Jettison here makes some good points about the double standards against white pride in America.

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Post by skateboardstephen » February 11th, 2013, 10:46 pm

Winston wrote:Freethinker George Jettison here makes some good points about the double standards against white pride in America.

Why are you out of anyone the forum still trying to argue this point, when we all ready explained why. It is because the white identidey was created to give people certain opportunities while others out of the group are looked down upon. People of European ancestry do celebrate their heritage, what the f**k is St.Patricks day for then?
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Post by Jester » February 12th, 2013, 1:02 am

Cornfed wrote:In order to colonize a country the Jews etc. have to suppress the dominant culture. In the West, North European Protestant culture is dominant, so that is being suppressed. Peripheral cultures that are currently no threat to the elite are being promoted to act as a foil against the dominant culture. Of course if these peripheral cultures were ever considered a threat to the elite then they would be taken down a peg or two as well.
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Post by Jester » February 12th, 2013, 1:11 am

odbo wrote:I have a question. Why are niggers, trolls (ChosenTraveler) and jews responding to this as if they have anything pertinent to say? Maybe the media conditioning is getting to your heads??? Let me remind you clowns of something. Just because females, Jews, and "the black guy" are smarter than the evil white man on tv, always teaching clueless whitey how its done, doesn't make it so.....

I don't see too many outsiders poking their noses into the "black" topics. I don't even read most of those threads because I ain't black, shit doesn't concern me and it would be rude to dominate the discussion. But the notion of letting people have self-determination or a sub-culture free from outside approval is one that the parasites known as "minorities" in the decadent west demand for themselves but aren't interested in when it concerns their host - whites or WASPs.

So why did I just read through a wall of mind-numbing bullshit posts known as page 1 of this thread?...
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Post by Jester » February 12th, 2013, 1:16 am

ChosenTraveler wrote:It's interesting that when faced with a perspective not their own, white men resort to acting like females( i.e. shaming tactics, accusations with little veracity).

To allude to my earlier point,significant portions of white men aren't ready to travel abroad for they have characteristics of the very feminists they claim they don't like.
There are NO Blacks, and not too many Whites, where I live. I can assure you that the Plight of Black America does not occupy me much, except here on HA. Granted, I have learned a lot on HA, from Black men, and also from Asian men -- folks whom I am not around much. New perspectives. But if you now barge into a thread on White pride, and try to tell Whites they can't have pride, can't be proud -- everything in me wants to say: So who the f**k are you?

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Post by Jester » February 12th, 2013, 1:28 am

OK I am going to leave my foregoing posts up.... but I am also going to desist here. This thread is what we from the South call a "tar-baby" (old African fable, look it up). Meaning, a pointless fight. I am not against any man here getting a woman to his liking and founding a new race of over-intellectual HA'ers of whatever hue or tone.

I am not going to accuse Winston of being a provocateur here - OK, he is, dammit.

I need to let this go.

The goddamn Black guys on HA are FAR more my allies and friends than the average brain-dead red-state White Zombie supporting the Pentagon and the IRS.

I am sure that Cornfed and Odbo agree with this, when they are calm at least.

I haven't read to the end of this thread but I am standing the f**k down.

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Post by E_Irizarry » February 12th, 2013, 10:01 pm

Jester wrote:
ChosenTraveler wrote:It's interesting that when faced with a perspective not their own, white men resort to acting like females( i.e. shaming tactics, accusations with little veracity).

To allude to my earlier point,significant portions of white men aren't ready to travel abroad for they have characteristics of the very feminists they claim they don't like.
There are NO Blacks, and not too many Whites, where I live. I can assure you that the Plight of Black America does not occupy me much, except here on HA. Granted, I have learned a lot on HA, from Black men, and also from Asian men -- folks whom I am not around much. New perspectives. But if you now barge into a thread on White pride, and try to tell Whites they can't have pride, can't be proud -- everything in me wants to say: So who the f**k are you?
Maybe in some prior threads, I was against AmericanInMexico. He wasn't a bad person. He is not a White nationlist/supremacist. He just likes White-looking women, and probably feels that people should stick with their own. Needless to say, he is cooler now than he was then. I hope all is well for him.

I feel that White pride is not a bad thing if they don't use it to dominate. Self-recognizance is a wonderful self-aware thing. It's just that power against others with the self-pride that bothers me; racism wouldn't be racism if the element of power were not an integral part.
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Post by Jester » February 16th, 2013, 2:43 am

E_Irizarry wrote:
Jester wrote:
ChosenTraveler wrote:It's interesting that when faced with a perspective not their own, white men resort to acting like females( i.e. shaming tactics, accusations with little veracity).

To allude to my earlier point,significant portions of white men aren't ready to travel abroad for they have characteristics of the very feminists they claim they don't like.
There are NO Blacks, and not too many Whites, where I live. I can assure you that the Plight of Black America does not occupy me much, except here on HA. Granted, I have learned a lot on HA, from Black men, and also from Asian men -- folks whom I am not around much. New perspectives. But if you now barge into a thread on White pride, and try to tell Whites they can't have pride, can't be proud -- everything in me wants to say: So who the f**k are you?
Maybe in some prior threads, I was against AmericanInMexico. He wasn't a bad person. He is not a White nationlist/supremacist. He just likes White-looking women, and probably feels that people should stick with their own. Needless to say, he is cooler now than he was then. I hope all is well for him.

I feel that White pride is not a bad thing if they don't use it to dominate. Self-recognizance is a wonderful self-aware thing. It's just that power against others with the self-pride that bothers me; racism wouldn't be racism if the element of power were not an integral part.
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Post by Ghost » February 16th, 2013, 3:04 am

If this was a rational society, racial pride (regardless of whatever race it is) would not be considered a taboo, but rather a ridiculous, absurd idea. After all, being born with a certain skin color or ethnicity is not an accomplishment. It makes as much sense as being proud of being born with a certain color of eyes or hair.

Go help create a better culture or leave a rotten one and go live within a superior culture. Be proud of that if you wish. Culture dominates the world and gives humanity its value or takes away from it, and it is something meaningful and useful unlike skin colors or ethnicities.
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Post by skateboardstephen » February 17th, 2013, 1:54 am

Ghost wrote:If this was a rational society, racial pride (regardless of whatever race it is) would not be considered a taboo, but rather a ridiculous, absurd idea. After all, being born with a certain skin color or ethnicity is not an accomplishment. It makes as much sense as being proud of being born with a certain color of eyes or hair.

Go help create a better culture or leave a rotten one and go live within a superior culture. Be proud of that if you wish. Culture dominates the world and gives humanity its value or takes away from it, and it is something meaningful and useful unlike skin colors or ethnicities.
I am going to try to answer your question from a black perspective. The reason the concept of being proud of you color (black for expample) is because the self esteem of Blacks (even in Brazil as well) are beaten down by a society that favors Europeans and European features. This is why black women wearing their natual hair instead of some wig or weave is a political statment and seen as going against to grain. I am proud of my hair and features as a black person despite being told by white media and society that i am ugly and less of a human for being African. This all started from white racsim. i see no problem in whites being proud of being white by the way.
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Post by Killhoffa » February 17th, 2013, 3:07 am

Theirs nothing wrong with white pride, but when you see the type of shyt on this forum posted by racists white males makes you wonder??? As a black male I am told that we are treated better in "Certain" Countries Why is there some sick infatuation with the black race, why do you go out of your way to justify you are SUPERIOR to a race of people that you consider sub-human. Seems there's a level of insecurity, When black males arrived on the shores of Vietnam and on into combat there were notes tied to trees in the jungle "BLACK MAN GO HOME THIS IS NOT YOUR FIGHT" even back then other Countries new about the level of racism in Americunt. The Great Muhammad Ali spoke out and was stripped of his HW Title and spent a year in jail. So when we look at the bigger picture whos' Really "HAPPIER ABROAD"!!
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Post by Killhoffa » February 17th, 2013, 3:22 am

And why is "Winston" even care about what a group of people is "Celebrating" that treat "Asian Males" like shyt their women in America seem to be afraid of you, well they don't even acknowledge you. Why waste time Worried about a group of people in America not all, but some, who marginalize and ostracize any group of people for the color of their skin. Look at some of the dumb asses on this forum who say shyt like whites invented every thing "We discoverd America" This land was already inhibited by Native Americans and Mexicans.I've heard White people say shyt like "go back to Mexico" . And I'm like take your ass back to Europe this was theirs before your ancestors came here robbed and pilfered the land. And for that c**t Licker who stated that whites invented everything heres a list for you Colonial Fag Phuking, Tea guzzling, idiot wanna be recognized idiot a$$!!

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Post by ILoveBlackAmericanWomen » February 17th, 2013, 3:47 am

Agree Skateboard and Killhoffa.
To be white or black - is to not be a human, but a living definition and label. To be a slave to definition, to fashion, to the industries that market us like cattle, emptying our pockets like the udders of the cow, being paid to cut our bodies for cosmetics, benefiting off of putting harsh chemicals on our heads, making money off of us choosing to live and participate in the reality they created. Don't be "black", don't be "white", don''t be "Asian", don't be "Latin." Destroy the illusion, become human.

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Post by Maker55 » February 24th, 2013, 5:30 am

A ha! Just what I've suspected for quite some time.

To my black brothers and sisters: Winston is a closeted worshiper of white people. He secretly bows down to him because of how much he hates himself.

The very fact that he created this thread proves this.

White pride has been associated with acts and feelings of superiority when if it were not for black DNA, whites wouldn't even exist in no form or fashion.

Blacks developed mathematics, science, quantum physics, writing, religion, government ect.

Blacks have every right to be proud we built this planet from our God Yahweh and our ancestor Ham.

Winston, you better apologize to your BLACK Chinese ancestors who built the first dynasties of China.

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