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Discuss racial, ethnic and multicultural issues. Warning: The topics here are likely to be taboo, so if you are easily offended, you are better off not participating here.
Not trying to start a fight, but instead I want to engage in an interesting and non-P.C. discussion on this forum:
I tried posting this thread on another forum, and I got some interesting responses.
Anyway, I've noticed on ROK, HappierAbroad, Heartsie, and several other MRA forums, there's quite a lot of White nationalists types on those forums.
Honest Question: why does the MRA movement attract many so White racists and White nationalists to the movement? Just curious. I would like an honest answer, because I'm quite baffled by the increasing numbers of what I see, as angry White men.
I'm not trying to stir anything up, I'm honestly trying to figure this out, because I figure that White males benefit the most from the current status quo system, but not minorities.
Also, it's interesting to note that HappierAbroad--founded by an Asian, and with many members who are Asian, Black, Latino and White (in other words, a diverse crowd)--attracts as many White nationalists as other blatantly pro-White sites like Heartsie, VNN and Stormfront? Even ROK (Return of Kings) has it's fair share of anti-Black/anti-minority members.
The Ferguson Riots Show Why Good Cops Will Quit
http://www.returnofkings.com/41948/the- ... -will-quit
Considering Open Contempt For The American Police
http://www.returnofkings.com/41862/cons ... the-police
Yes, but aren't the Jews the primary source of all this garbage, not Blacks, Browns or Asians? I mean...I don't really understand why more White people aren't trying to overthrow their Zionist globalist oppressors, as well as AIPAC and the Wall-Street bankers, instead of venting their rage at poverty-stricken Blacks and Hispanics, and a tiny population of Asians overseas?
For example, why are Whites so upset about police brutality in Ferguson, Missouri when Wall Street Bankers and globalists elites have plundered the world economy, and absolutely decimated America and Europe to their knees? It wasn't Black people who did all that. ...
A difficult question, I don't know exactly how to explain it, let me try. Some of my thoughts:
This is not about MRAs in general, but this question is limited to USA only. If racist BS-talk is coming up it is almost always from USA.
In Europe there is no problem like that, for example in the German MRA-forum
White people are the only race in USA who do not have any platform to talk about their own experience regarding racism.
In USA it's about African/Asian US-citizens, it is not like in Europe about complaints regarding recent immigrants in huge numbers entering EU holding foreign citizenship.
A white man is not supposed to suffer because of racism, but some of these white people surely had very bad experience with non-white people in their past. If they talk about their situation they will be belittled, insulted and face scornful remarks.
Where can white men go and publish their comments if they have problems with black people, or Latinos, or Chinese Americans?
Where can a white man complain about a bad experience with Asians or Africans in USA?
White women still can try to make use out of pro-feminist websites somehow, but white men are in a nowhere position.
About the MRAs:
Most MRAs like the idea to travel overseas, considering relocation, looking for a foreign wife of a different race and language etc.
Most complaints from MRAs are from white men against local white women and not against all women worldwide. In USA I noticed that black men are complaining about black women too in huge numbers. (=complaining about women of the SAME race)
MRAs often complain about women of the SAME color and prefer to date other races. In return most feminists are white women who are accusing white men to marry foreign mail-order brides from Asia.
Racism is a 'grey-zone' - is it racism when you are complaining about women of your own race?
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If I sicked a vicious dog onto you, who would be the focus of your attention - me or the dog? Yes of course we know who the real problem is, but you deal with one problem at a time.
As you should know, I have criticized the banksters more than anyone. If my bankster-criticizing credentials are slipping, I will try to rectify that.
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It does seem odd, because a lot of our discussions seem to center around going abroad for, well, coitus. Often to non-White countries. And certainly to non-Aryan countries. The White racists are supposed to hate Russians and Ukrainians almost as much as they hate Jews. Why talk about going to a Slavic country, if you think that Slavs are untermenschen, and their women unfit for your pecker?
I don't see the question as difficult at all. In fact, I don't see why one would seriously pose such a question in the first place.
To view white males as beneficiaries, over other non-whites, is a very crude way of looking at reality. It's also wrong. They are not privileged, as the OP seems to believe. They are no different from anyone else struggling to survive. And, just like all other males, they're getting the shaft too.
"Baffled by the increasing numbers of what I see, as angry White men"? Your bafflement is baffling. Are you really not capable of putting yourself in someone else's shoes? Open your eyes and take a look around you, and tell us you don't feel the same anger yourself.
It really doesn't matter that some members are white nationalists. What matters is that one is reasonably honest to express views that all men basically feel deep down. So from that perspective, the fact that white nationalists come to a site run by a non-white isn't as interesting as one might think.
Cornfed is the only White nationalist I know on this site.
He is too poor and stupid to count. Real white nationalists are successful.
In general the white males on this site who travel do enjoy darker chicks.
Most chick abroad are not white.
Thanks and enjoy.
You are talking about Nazi's specifically there, not White Nationalists or the larger group of "racism light" white people. You got tall, blonde and gorgeous women in the East of Europe and in Russia, and their Slavic background does not make them in any way inferior to, say, some British or German chick. That's BS.
I would say that the majority of "racist" MRA or HA types aren't Nazi's, they are just politically incorrect fellows who take a few unorthodox stances and get blasted for it on mainstream sites, so they seek refuge outside of them. They don't keep posters of Hitler in their room and they don't jack it to Mein Kampf, but they view society as decaying and are afraid of the white race dying out or their genepool being 'diluted' by non-white genes. Only a very small portions of these people are genuine Nazi's, and even among those, I would argue that most do it purely for the shock value. Shocking for the sake of shocking. There hearts aren't into it, they just want to stir shit up.
I don't have anything against people who are politically incorrect, honestly, although I find many of their views to be oversimplified, incorrect or just plain silly. But I wouldn't go as far as to vilify all of them. I won't shame people for having a little White Pride, as I applaud Asian people and other races for taking pride in their heritage and I would be a hypocrite to deny white people the right to be proud. Sadly these days there's little to be proud of.
I am baffled by the OP's ability to turn those Return of King articles into examples of racist hate speech. Also, if this site is as full of white supremacists as stormfront then it baffles me that I haven't noticed.
People put on their blinders, because they don't want to see the truth.
It is the height of dishonesty to rail against feminism, multi-culturalism, and zionism, yet express bafflement over increasing numbers of angry white men, as if such a phenomenon weren't justified. That just reveals a very closed mind that doesn't want to know the truth.
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Because the only people who were doing unusually well prior to the 1960's were lower-middle-class white western men, and they have since been reduced to their natural level and they don't like this reality and so they look around for someone to blame, instead of accepting what is inevitable. In particular, western white men were able to lift themselves up by standing on top of men in the rest of the world plus non-whites within the United States and other western countries, and also men in general were able to stand on top of women. But there is no way to keep thee non-white men in subjection forever. Wages in the west must fall to meet up with rising wages in the developing countries like China and India. Blacks and hispanics had to be given the same rights as whites, exerting more downward pressure on whites. Women had to eventually move into the workforce given that housework was no longer a full-time job like back in the primitive days when women had to clean laundry with a washboard, make bread from scratch, etc.
Blaming people feels much better than accepting reality, and then going through the hard work of adapting belief systems and behavior to this reality you've accepted. Basically, you have to go through a long period of depression and hard work before finally coming out the other end and realizing things are actually quite good for white men nowadays compared to the past. Read the chapters in Orwell's Road to Wigan Pier about coal miners in Britain in the 1930's to see what life was life for a lot of white men in the old days. Working part-time at Walmart, living in a grouphouse because you can't afford your own hose, masturbating into a fleshlight or having a fat ugly girlfriend who cheats on you is a lot better than what most white men had to put up with in the old days.
BTW this happier abroad party will also eventually come to an end, just like the party for white men working in blue-collar union jobs came to an end starting in the 1970's. Good news is that while Thailand and Philippines hookers will raise their prices in years to come, prices for fleshlights and sex dolls will fall even faster, plus quality will be better.
Ah, there is hope for the White Man after all! Baffled no longer!
"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
-LYNDON B. JOHNSON