Does Race Matter for Women?

[Eric]

There used to be a time in the not so distant past where you could focus, not everything was focused on looks/attractiveness, showing skin and promiscuity. Now...everyone's focused on individual differences, you can't go about your day without acknowledging everyone's feelings around you - it's very distracting and it's making society break apart.
People expect this, so when you're in a bookshop for example trying to get something done...it's now social etiquette in America for everyone to look around at each other and size each other up sexually, almost constantly. Just noticing individual differences. This distractive tendency didn't exist before in society.

It's only making it come undone, as people focus more and more on promiscuity and other individual differences.

[Eric]

There used to be a time in the not so distant past where you could focus, not everything was focused on looks/attractiveness, showing skin and promiscuity. Now...everyone's focused on individual differences, you can't go about your day without acknowledging everyone's feelings around you - it's very distracting and it's making society break apart. People are that narcissistic it's breaking literally society apart.
People expect this, so when you're in a bookshop for example trying to get something done...it's now social etiquette in America for everyone to look around at each other and size each other up sexually, almost constantly. Just noticing individual differences. This distractive tendency didn't exist before in society.
There was a reason promiscuity was kept in check in societies and that modest dress codes were enforced and proper. It wasn't because everyone was "stiff" and up tight. It was necessary for a society to function properly.
Look around at what drealm was saying - society is all about "appearance of efficiency" rather than actual efficiency. People are just acting and filling a role, but they are complete dots and have no focus anymore.
It's only making it come undone, as people focus more and more on promiscuity and other individual differences.

[Adama]

Racialism is but the least refined form of collectivism. A collectivist does not have the means to identify or acknowledge his personal shortcomings. It must always be blamed on the other guy.

It is certainly collectivism, as you say. But take a look. There is no end to the distinctions and divisions which they set up so they can separate themselves above the rest. It is not sufficient to be white. One must also be white and upper class, preferably with a distinguished degree of some kind. It isn't enough just to be white. A person must also be upper class and white. Whites of lower classes are more undesirables. So it's not just racism, but also pride. Prideful people are full of hatred for other people. Racism is just one form of hate they practice. Classism is another.

[MrMan]

Race is a very convenient proxy to which "bottom-dwellers" can attribute their personal failures. So of course it will be a topic for some who feel unfulfilled in their home countries.

The problem is these "bottom-dwellers" SHOULD be focusing on their women, their societal rot, and their personal development. That is asking too much for some when they can more easily blame their misery on "The Jews" and "the darkies."

Racialism is but the least refined form of collectivism. A collectivist does not have the means to identify or acknowledge his personal shortcomings. It must always be blamed on the other guy.

I can see how racism and Jewish conspiracy theories could appeal to those who want someone to blame for their own lack of acheivement, personal failings, etc. But the way 'collectivism' is used in cross-cultural psychology literature and fields like management that have draw for it is not what you describe here. In collectivist cultures, individuals tend to have a view of themselves that emphasize their relationships with other people. "I am the son of my father." "I am a Korean." "I am a member of X tribe." On the individual level, one would be said to have 'interdependent self construal.' The opposite is 'independent self construal' and corresponds with individualism.

[Eric]

Race is a very convenient proxy to which "bottom-dwellers" can attribute their personal failures. So of course it will be a topic for some who feel unfulfilled in their home countries.

The problem is these "bottom-dwellers" SHOULD be focusing on their women, their societal rot, and their personal development. That is asking too much for some when they can more easily blame their misery on "The Jews" and "the darkies."

Racialism is but the least refined form of collectivism. A collectivist does not have the means to identify or acknowledge his personal shortcomings. It must always be blamed on the other guy.

I can see how racism and Jewish conspiracy theories could appeal to those who want someone to blame for their own lack of acheivement, personal failings, etc. But the way 'collectivism' is used in cross-cultural psychology literature and fields like management that have draw for it is not what you describe here. In collectivist cultures, individuals tend to have a view of themselves that emphasize their relationships with other people. "I am the son of my father." "I am a Korean." "I am a member of X tribe." On the individual level, one would be said to have 'interdependent self construal.' The opposite is 'independent self construal' and corresponds with individualism.

I can see how ignorance is still a big problem.

[starchild5]

I can see how racism and Jewish conspiracy theories could appeal to those who want someone to blame for their own lack of acheivement, personal failings, etc. But the way 'collectivism' is used in cross-cultural psychology literature and fields like management that have draw for it is not what you describe here. In collectivist cultures, individuals tend to have a view of themselves that emphasize their relationships with other people. "I am the son of my father." "I am a Korean." "I am a member of X tribe." On the individual level, one would be said to have 'interdependent self construal.' The opposite is 'independent self construal' and corresponds with individualism.

This is EXACTLY what Eric hates and have been struggling all his life against it, blaming him for all society problem.

This is EXACTLY what Winston hates and have been struggling all his life against it, blaming him for all society problem.

and many many more here...

This is the Go To Cliche....Ohh the problem is not the society, the problem is really you...has been with us all along.

You are the exact reason, this forum was created to get away from mainstream folks like you, who blame the victim

1. You are not doing enough.

2. Improve yourself

3. Be self confident

4. You are not doing things right

Winston has written more on it for like ever.

The entire liberal, democracy, justice, freedom is FAKE in the west..Only Jews can express there freedom not anyone else.

Racism exist, Jewish Conspiracy is THE ONLY TRUTH.

HappierAbroad was created to get away from improve yourself because Winston found, its not you, its the location and you quietly moved to Indonesia, Married an Asian wife...Now blaming who are stuck in America to Improve themselves

[Contrarian Expatriate]

Obviously - no offense bro. This government's gave you a leg up (minorities) whether you realize or want to acknowledge that or not.

Would you care to elaborate on this "leg up?"

The government is NOT the friend of black people that is for sure. Government sanctioned and encouraged slavery, it sanctioned and encouraged the banning of educating blacks, it sanctioned and encouraged segregation, and it bamboozled poor blacks into submission by sanctioning and encouraging the welfare state among a large portion.

Any "leg up" in terms of affirmative action or anti-discrimination laws are offset by undermining activity and/or witchhunts against successful black men (Bill Cosby, Michael Jackson, OJ (although guilty) Simpson, Barack Obama, Barry Bonds, etc). They love to see you rise to the top so they can skeet shoot you back down to the ground.

When I was a newcomer to the workplace, a seasoned veteran told me "You will likely never have a problem with whites unless they see you with the trappings of success and wealth. That's when they begin to come undone." I have found that this is largely true.

Whites have no problem with you so long as you are not doing better financially or professionally than they are doing. Once that happens their egos take a huge hit and you become a target in America. The lesson there is any "leg up" you speak of is nonsense at the end of the day. An upwardly mobile black man in America has to play social chess and use whatever means at his disposal to fight back challenges to his improvement and to quell hostile competition.

So when people speak of blacks having a "leg up," they are simply expressing regret that they actually have to compete with blacks and sometimes feel the pain of losing to them. The "leg up" argument is simply butthurt that you've been outdone just as claiming Jews have some unfair advantage over gentiles. What you see as a leg up is simply better education, better preparation, and smarter decision-making than you that gave the "leg up," not government. Government (which I worked in for years) is more of a hindrance. If you had half a lick of sense you would see that WOMEN benefit from government to the detriment of white men. But you give them a p***y pass I guess!

Some people simply play the success game better than you; get over it....

[Man With a Plan]

Now, as much of a non-fan as I am of Contrarian, he's dead-on with that post. There is no "leg up" for black people, especially black women. Their own women are starting to date out in higher numbers. Think about it. Usually a black man in a medium or high sexual market echelon ON AVERAGE pulls average white women. Yet, these sloppy white fellows are making serious gains with the Egyptian/Nubian beauties. A white guy, 9.9/10 times will have a highly sought after sista on his arm. "But Plan, it's not just about sex!" You're right. It comes down to even the most basic of human experiences: the personality. If a black man isn't "acting black" (whatever that means) BOTH white and black people will seek to "put him in his place", so to speak. Hell, he's likelier to be targeted by his own than any other ethnic group. A leg up, when he has no community to point to? To rely on?

Hahaha. Yeah no. A leg up. Pure comedy.

[Cornfed]

Obviously - no offense bro. This government's gave you a leg up (minorities) whether you realize or want to acknowledge that or not.

Would you care to elaborate on this "leg up?"

Sure. In addition to the apeffirmative action already mentioned, Western regimes create the r-selected environment that gives a reproductive advantage to stupid, irresponsible, impulsive, generally scum of the earth males, so I’m sure you can see what a leg up this is to black males. Looking at the same issue from another perspective, if a human female spawned a niglet in the past her life would have been f***ed. These days the regime lets her kill it, put it up for adoption, put it in foster care or raise it on the state dime in one way or another. She is even protected from criticism by the anti-racism bullshit. Moreover, females get police protection from their pets, although it is gratifying that this often arrives too late. Most importantly, black males benefit from the constant buck/mudshark pairing promotion by Hymiewood. If any other group of hominid males was promoted like blacks, they would be like The Fonz, but I guess some groups are a harder sell than others.

This is if we are just talking about women. Obviously if it weren't for the ZOG protecting you, you would have all been wiped out generations ago.

[Eric]

Obviously - no offense bro. This government's gave you a leg up (minorities) whether you realize or want to acknowledge that or not.

Would you care to elaborate on this "leg up?"

The government is NOT the friend of black people that is for sure. Government sanctioned and encouraged slavery, it sanctioned and encouraged the banning of educating blacks, it sanctioned and encouraged segregation, and it bamboozled poor blacks into submission by sanctioning and encouraging the welfare state among a large portion.

Any "leg up" in terms of affirmative action or anti-discrimination laws are offset by undermining activity and/or witchhunts against successful black men (Bill Cosby, Michael Jackson, OJ (although guilty) Simpson, Barack Obama, Barry Bonds, etc). They love to see you rise to the top so they can skeet shoot you back down to the ground.

When I was a newcomer to the workplace, a seasoned veteran told me "You will likely never have a problem with whites unless they see you with the trappings of success and wealth. That's when they begin to come undone." I have found that this is largely true.

Whites have no problem with you so long as you are not doing better financially or professionally than they are doing. Once that happens their egos take a huge hit and you become a target in America. The lesson there is any "leg up" you speak of is nonsense at the end of the day. An upwardly mobile black man in America has to play social chess and use whatever means at his disposal to fight back challenges to his improvement and to quell hostile competition.

So when people speak of blacks having a "leg up," they are simply expressing regret that they actually have to compete with blacks and sometimes feel the pain of losing to them. The "leg up" argument is simply butthurt that you've been outdone just as claiming Jews have some unfair advantage over gentiles. What you see as a leg up is simply better education, better preparation, and smarter decision-making than you that gave the "leg up," not government. Government (which I worked in for years) is more of a hindrance. If you had half a lick of sense you would see that WOMEN benefit from government to the detriment of white men. But you give them a p***y pass I guess!

Some people simply play the success game better than you; get over it....

Listen, it's complicated I know. In some regards leg up - but you're right, the gov has done horrible terrible things to the black community - yet the black community still votes for them. I don't understand it, but whatever. The truth is what I said offended you, and that's where your comments came out of. That's fine, but there is merit to what I said. Cornfed elaborated on it in his own point of view, and I could say a lot of other things about it, I've seen it in my own life. You don't know what it is to be white. I don't know what it is to be black. But I am the bigger man in this case because I made my point without insulting you, as you've failed to obviously do to me.

[Eric]

Oh yeah, and define success. How do you know you've been more successful than I have?

[Cornfed]

Oh yeah, and define success.

It is how much the massa pats your fuzzy head, tells you you are a good boy and hands you gibs, obviously.

[droid]

I don't know why this forum attracts so many race-obsessed people. Bizarre. I understand there's some free speech here but it can't be all. Pretty boring, every point that could ever be made on this has been made a hundredfold all over the internet.

Race is a very convenient proxy to which "bottom-dwellers" can attribute their personal failures. So of course it will be a topic for some who feel unfulfilled in their home countries.

The problem is these "bottom-dwellers" SHOULD be focusing on their women, their societal rot, and their personal development. That is asking too much for some when they can more easily blame their misery on "The Jews" and "the darkies."

Racialism is but the least refined form of collectivism. A collectivist does not have the means to identify or acknowledge his personal shortcomings. It must always be blamed on the other guy.

Well I wasn't only referring to that segment, there are also the race-sensitives/insecures, the race-phenotype micro-analyzers, etc (to which you can also apply the above I guess). Anyways, to be clear, I have no problem with people having xyz principles, my point was mainly about the literal obsession part.

[Kradmelder]

Of course race matters! Human beings are racialist, like it or not. It's just that some hide it better than others.

Woman are gold diggers at heart, so they will go after the race that is 'in power.' Otherwise you wouldn't see females refusing to marry outside of their races, or refusing to marry Black and Asian men.

Dont quite agree. Blacks are in power in SA. You dont see white women rushing out to marry them even if they drive a merc. White women in asian countries are not rushing after asian men in power.

There is more to it than women just chasing the men in power.

Not so fast.... South African white male elites, like American white men, have always been terrified about losing their women to black men. That is why both societies passed anti-interracial marriage legislation to BAN interracial marriage.

It was repealed in South Africa after Apartheid ended and black male/white female marriages have been creeping upwards ever since according to the stats in this article.

http://city-press.news24.com/Voices/Mar ... 20151002-2

?? DID you read the whole thing?


However, increased educational attainment among Asians, Indians and whites tends to make them marry their own kind.

This latest study suggests that about 5% of coloureds, Asians and Indians

marry outside their groups, though whites remain the least likely to do so. The most common interracial marriages are those between Africans and coloureds. Also, African men – especially those who are socially mobile – are the most likely to marry outside their group, while African women are the least likely to do so.


Quality educated whites are very unlikely to marry out. Most race mixing is black with coloured. In usa this would not be race mixing. The stats are skewed by black and coloured mixing.

The fact that coloured and black mixing was also illegal shows that these laws were not just white fear of whites breeding out but were designed to stop all race mixing based on the biblical belief that god dispersed all people each to tbeir own.

[Kradmelder]

I can see how racism and Jewish conspiracy theories could appeal to those who want someone to blame for their own lack of acheivement, personal failings, etc. But the way 'collectivism' is used in cross-cultural psychology literature and fields like management that have draw for it is not what you describe here. In collectivist cultures, individuals tend to have a view of themselves that emphasize their relationships with other people. "I am the son of my father." "I am a Korean." "I am a member of X tribe." On the individual level, one would be said to have 'interdependent self construal.' The opposite is 'independent self construal' and corresponds with individualism.

This is EXACTLY what Eric hates and have been struggling all his life against it, blaming him for all society problem.

This is EXACTLY what Winston hates and have been struggling all his life against it, blaming him for all society problem.

and many many more here...

This is the Go To Cliche....Ohh the problem is not the society, the problem is really you...has been with us all along.

You are the exact reason, this forum was created to get away from mainstream folks like you, who blame the victim

1. You are not doing enough.

2. Improve yourself

3. Be self confident

4. You are not doing things right

Winston has written more on it for like ever.

The entire liberal, democracy, justice, freedom is FAKE in the west..Only Jews can express there freedom not anyone else.

Racism exist, Jewish Conspiracy is THE ONLY TRUTH.

HappierAbroad was created to get away from improve yourself because Winston found, its not you, its the location and you quietly moved to Indonesia, Married an Asian wife...Now blaming who are stuck in America to Improve themselves

This arguement would apply to asians. No matter what you do in america the deck is stacked against you. Even asian women dont favour you. In that case i agree location matters. Go to asia.

But look at some of the whites on here. Would any woman be attracted to them? Why would she be? Mating has always been competitive. If you dont offer an advantage you wont be chosen. So some people yes need to do more and work on their attitude.

For the yellow people on here, sorry for you, but no matter what you do it may not be enough where white women are concerned. Is it fair? No. Is it blaming the victim? Yes
But that is what it is.

For the whiteys, up your game because every single male has and always has been compettion. If you refuse to compete then dont whine about the outcome.