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Do Whites have a right to preserve their race and heritage?

Postby Winston » June 1st, 2017, 8:27 pm

Why is the US media and liberal culture so biased against whites wanting to preserve their race? Don't they have a right to? The media is totally illogical and biased and one sided on this issue, as though there were a secret agenda. And there probably is, but this is a taboo subject you aren't allowed to talk about.

What do you think? Do whites have a right to preserve their race? If so, why is it such a taboo to ever mention it? Or is it racist for whites to talk about this, as the US liberal media claims? Why is white racial preservation such a threat and insult to other races?

One of the whites who have the courage to talk about this is David Duke of course. Another is Jared Taylor of American Renaissance. See below.



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Re: Do Whites have a right to preserve their race and herita

Postby Contrarian Expatriate » June 1st, 2017, 9:04 pm

It is a dangerous question because what are the means by which they "Preserve?" Are they simply encouraging their people to have many children with other whites only? I would have no issue with that.

But if they are violently attacking and persecuting non-whites or discriminating against non-whites outside of what is legally permissible to advantage themselves, no they do NOT have that right.

If you wholesale grant the right to "preserve" a race, you are calling for everything from persecution to genocide.
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Re: Do Whites have a right to preserve their race and herita

Postby Moretorque » June 1st, 2017, 10:28 pm

Winston I think you may have been on to something when you said whites in general were the most talented overall. I read a stat the other day and it was claiming that 1 out of every 80 or so European whites had a genius IQ OF 140 AND ABOVE.

The Ashkenazi Jews do not want this at all...... The Asians on average are higher but overall they do not have near as many geniuses and have proven themselves to be compliant sheep ...
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Re: Do Whites have a right to preserve their race and herita

Postby starchild5 » June 2nd, 2017, 2:46 am

David Duke is a Sell Out...Notice how many times, he uses Earth is Flat narrative because he knows, maximum proponents of Flat Earth are White People. He was also a big supporter of Trump which turned out to screw the white race itself. I have seen his many videos and he smacks of Division Con.

Humanity is Same...We are the most powerful beings in the entire universe who can cross and live on any dimension possible. Its not new age talk...The more you find your body...You will know the power you have inside you.

THE problem is THEY NEVER gave us a chance on earth to Prove our True human nature. How all human beings are same. Olympics and running, jumping, lifting are Illuminati sports...

How about cross dimensional travel and see which race comes first.. :D

Of Course, NOW they will bring the genetics card because white race have had enough...and they are fighting back, so to soothe them, they are bringing guys like duke.

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Do not fall for race con...its true by the conditions on earth created by the elite where YOU WILL EVENTUALLY NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE...In this case how blacks dominate sports while white and Asia dominate weightlifting and science - Its TRUE ONLY BY DESIGN.

Somebody is working real hard to bring human race to this obvious conclusions :shock:
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Re: Do Whites have a right to preserve their race and herita

Postby starchild5 » June 2nd, 2017, 2:56 am

Moretorque wrote:Winston I think you may have been on to something when you said whites in general were the most talented overall. I read a stat the other day and it was claiming that 1 out of every 80 or so European whites had a genius IQ OF 140 AND ABOVE.

The Ashkenazi Jews do not want this at all...... The Asians on average are higher but overall they do not have near as many geniuses and have proven themselves to be compliant sheep ...


These are obvious conclusions arrived at when the conditions on earth are controlled.

Everyone has to Pay Taxes :lol:

Its primitive talk to compare between races which I also fell for, because we knew nothing better.

Now that the pattern is established its easy to figure out the Divisions..Blacks are good at sports while whites have high IQ.....all true but Really? Is that all...where it all ends for humanity :lol:

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First, let me as an Indian race travel to America without Visa and then let an African travel to India without visa and passport and then let a American travel to India and work anywhere he wishes and THEN we will see how we are different or are we controlled to Notice these things eventually ???? :?:

Why don't the government and David Duke say, let go of Passport and visa and we will see how strong this jewish con called Economy and money can support this fake system on earth.

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They will never do this ..because then you will start to really understand another human being and will know...hmmmm...f**ck..we are all same and being controlled by same force
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Re: Do Whites have a right to preserve their race and herita

Postby Winston » June 2nd, 2017, 4:32 pm

Contrarian Expatriate wrote:It is a dangerous question because what are the means by which they "Preserve?" Are they simply encouraging their people to have many children with other whites only? I would have no issue with that.

But if they are violently attacking and persecuting non-whites or discriminating against non-whites outside of what is legally permissible to advantage themselves, no they do NOT have that right.

If you wholesale grant the right to "preserve" a race, you are calling for everything from persecution to genocide.


Well I don't think David Duke or Jared Taylor believe in using violence to preserve the white race. They specifically state they are against violence and prefer peaceful resolutions. They are probably either for racial segregation or racial freedom - which means that people should have a right to choose which race they want to associate with and live around, and that government should not force racial integration on those who don't want it. President Dwight Eisenhower said his biggest regret was having to order federal troops to Arkansas to enforce racial integration, which he didn't agree with. In fact, every US president before JFK believed that whites and blacks were different and should be segregated, or that blacks should be sent back to Africa.

I don't think those who want to preserve whites are saying that blacks should be persecuted. But employers have a right to hire who they want and should not be forced to hire all races to make the workplace multicultural. Diversity has always been a hindrance, never a strength. So government should not force racial integration or tell people that they must love all races equally. People have a right to choose their friends and neighbors, and if they want to live in all white neighborhoods, they should have that right. That's what the John Birch Society says as well.
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Re: Do Whites have a right to preserve their race and herita

Postby Winston » June 2nd, 2017, 4:34 pm

Wow check out these debates between Jared Taylor and the liberal media about racial preservation and segregation vs racial integration.

Below, Jared Taylor debates a CNN reporter, a liberal black woman, for 50 min about race and explains to her why whites have a right to preserve their race. The reporter kept acting like a liberal drone and repeating the same cliches while dodging all of Jared's arguments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol6GA4dMZw4

Below Jared Taylor debates an ABC reporter, a woman of mixed race, about his views on race. They go out at it for nearly an hour. She keeps arguing with him but ignores all his points. Typical libtard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z90KJWk3dPY

Here Jared Taylor debates the famous liberal talk show host Phil Donahue on his show in 2003. Not surprisingly, Donahue kept firing liberal soundbytes at Jared, while ignoring all of his points and questions. E.g. "Should Koreans become a minority in Korea? Should the Japanese become a minority in Japan? Should the Jews be a minority in Israel?" were all avoided by Donahue. Jared should have insisted that Donahue answer such questions. It would have revealed his hypocrisy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPaiB5Umilo

These debates, while interesting at first, get annoying after a while. Its clear that the media reporters that jared is debating are not listening to him at all nor are they addressing his points. All they are doing is attacking him and trying to marginalizing him. Its not really an honest debate on the medias part, even though jared is trying to be honest.
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Re: Do Whites have a right to preserve their race and herita

Postby Contrarian Expatriate » June 3rd, 2017, 12:13 am

Winston wrote:
Contrarian Expatriate wrote:It is a dangerous question because what are the means by which they "Preserve?" Are they simply encouraging their people to have many children with other whites only? I would have no issue with that.

But if they are violently attacking and persecuting non-whites or discriminating against non-whites outside of what is legally permissible to advantage themselves, no they do NOT have that right.

If you wholesale grant the right to "preserve" a race, you are calling for everything from persecution to genocide.


Well I don't think David Duke or Jared Taylor believe in using violence to preserve the white race. They specifically state they are against violence and prefer peaceful resolutions. They are probably either for racial segregation or racial freedom - which means that people should have a right to choose which race they want to associate with and live around, and that government should not force racial integration on those who don't want it. President Dwight Eisenhower said his biggest regret was having to order federal troops to Arkansas to enforce racial integration, which he didn't agree with. In fact, every US president before JFK believed that whites and blacks were different and should be segregated, or that blacks should be sent back to Africa.

I don't think those who want to preserve whites are saying that blacks should be persecuted. But employers have a right to hire who they want and should not be forced to hire all races to make the workplace multicultural. Diversity has always been a hindrance, never a strength. So government should not force racial integration or tell people that they must love all races equally. People have a right to choose their friends and neighbors, and if they want to live in all white neighborhoods, they should have that right. That's what the John Birch Society says as well.

I like how you avoided my general question by making this about Duke and Taylor. And who cares if you "don't think" someone advocates violence? Anyone with have a clue knows that racial segregation is ENFORCED by violence, both state and private. So for all your naïveté about what "preserving" a race really means, it is at its core a prescription for violence when it goes beyond what I described.
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Re: Do Whites have a right to preserve their race and herita

Postby Wolfeye » June 3rd, 2017, 1:52 am

Yes. Especially considering that blame shouldn't apply racially. That reminds me: Who was it that was already taking slaves in Africa & then started selling them to people that were white? It wasn't the blacks, was it? They should be punished for slavery!
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Re: Do Whites have a right to preserve their race and herita

Postby Winston » June 4th, 2017, 11:37 am

Jared taylor repeatedly makes one good point in his videos and media debates. He says that if you look at churches in America, you find that most of them are racially homogeneous, not multicultural at all. Some are even 100 percent one race. This tells us that humans, given free choice without government interference, will naturally tend to choose to associate with people of their own race and kind. So true. We can't deny that. We cant deny human nature.

This voluntary racial segregation in churches argument is irrefutable and seen all around america. So even the liberal media reporters debating jared taylor above did not dispute it. They merely said that racial integration takes more time to work properly. Lol

The problem with liberals is that they deny human nature, truth and reality in favor of an ideology that doesnt work. And they believe political correctness is more important than the truth.
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Re: Do Whites have a right to preserve their race and herita

Postby Winston » June 4th, 2017, 11:55 am

Contrarian Expatriate wrote:I like how you avoided my general question by making this about Duke and Taylor. And who cares if you "don't think" someone advocates violence? Anyone with have a clue knows that racial segregation is ENFORCED by violence, both state and private. So for all your naïveté about what "preserving" a race really means, it is at its core a prescription for violence when it goes beyond what I described.


Thats a valid point. Yes violence can be used to enforce segregation. But I think peaceful segregationists would prefer peaceful enforcement. They would just have cops and security guards escort unwanted people out of the areas they dont belong in. Why would violence be necessary? Im sure Abraham Lincoln and everyone in his day preferred peaceful segregation too. Not a violent one. Arent you using paranoia to view this issue?

Besides what is your solution? Forced racial integration against peoples will? Is that the answer? And also affirmative action? I dont think theres a perfect solution.

Those guys are not advocating forced racial segregation. Only voluntary segregation for those who want it. They say that if one wants to mix with other races then that is their american individual right as well. People should have a right to choose. Thats their point. I dont get why obama and donahue and liberals don't understand that. Its very simple.
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Re: Do Whites have a right to preserve their race and herita

Postby Contrarian Expatriate » June 4th, 2017, 10:00 pm

Ah, using the police and private security to "escort" people out is VIOLENCE, as much as you'd like to deny it.

My solution is people should live wherever they wish so long as they can afford it. John Stuart Mill's treatise On Liberty is instructive here. People should be able to do as they please so long as they don't prevent others from enjoying their rights.

For anyone who wishes to live among whites only, save your money and move to a small Eastern European town. America is more than just about what white people want; if you don't like it then move out.

By the way, I moved out to be away from Americans of all stripes and life is very good so far.
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Re: Do Whites have a right to preserve their race and herita

Postby Cornfed » June 4th, 2017, 11:48 pm

Contrarian Expatriate wrote:America is more than just about what white people want; if you don't like it then move out.

Why would white people want to cede territory to dysgenics? It would be like someone walking into your house and announcing that your house is about more than just what you want and if you don’t like it move out.
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Re: Do Whites have a right to preserve their race and herita

Postby Contrarian Expatriate » June 5th, 2017, 2:16 am

Cornfed wrote:
Contrarian Expatriate wrote:America is more than just about what white people want; if you don't like it then move out.

Why would white people want to cede territory to dysgenics? It would be like someone walking into your house and announcing that your house is about more than just what you want and if you don’t like it move out.

Cornfed, when the adults here are engaged in serious discussion, that is a clue for you to be scarce.

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Re: Do Whites have a right to preserve their race and herita

Postby Winston » July 29th, 2017, 2:39 pm

Pat Bucanan talks about how whites are becoming a minority in their own countries in the West. I love the way he talks. He speaks with conviction and passion and moral integrity. And he's very articulate and knowledgeable too.

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