Taboo questions about racial hierarchy, differences, origins
Taboo videos about Race and IQ:
Here Dr. Rushton explains why the racial differences in IQ are mostly due to genetics and not environment. Apparently, Southeast Asia and North Africa have lower IQ's.
Here he says that Chinese and Japanese have the highest IQ's, higher even than white Europeans. How can that be, when most Chinese can't even think outside the box? Most I've met who can think outside the box tend to be white.
Here Dr. Rushton explains why the racial differences in IQ are mostly due to genetics and not environment. Apparently, Southeast Asia and North Africa have lower IQ's.
Here he says that Chinese and Japanese have the highest IQ's, higher even than white Europeans. How can that be, when most Chinese can't even think outside the box? Most I've met who can think outside the box tend to be white.
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NE Asians (ethnic Chinese, Japanese, Koreans) score higher on average than white Gentiles. But the difference is modest (around 1/3 standard deviation). The really interesting group is American Ashkenazi Jews. By some accounts, they average 115 or more, a whole standard deviation above the white American gentile average. That is a big gap and a huge advantage. BTW, I remember reading that Jewish Americans, with just 1% of the US population, comprise 30% of the Harvard student body. Asian Americans, with 4.5% of US population (presumably more than half this component is NE Asian) accounted for some 20%.Winston wrote:Taboo videos about Race and IQ:
Here Dr. Rushton explains why the racial differences in IQ are mostly due to genetics and not environment. Apparently, Southeast Asia and North Africa have lower IQ's.
Here he says that Chinese and Japanese have the highest IQ's, higher even than white Europeans. How can that be, when most Chinese can't even think outside the box? Most I've met who can think outside the box tend to be white.
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IQ = Convergent thinking (logic)Winston wrote:Here he says that Chinese and Japanese have the highest IQ's, higher even than white Europeans. How can that be, when most Chinese can't even think outside the box? Most I've met who can think outside the box tend to be white.
Creativity = Divergent thinking (brainstorming)
"Thinking outside the box" = over-used marketing cliché for lateral thinking (indirect). When you see marketing material with "thinking outside the box", take a pen and cross it out.
Lateral thinking is more indirect, it asks questions and offers alternatives in a non-challenging way. Critical thinking is more direct and challenges instead of asking.
Saving face is important in Asian culture, so Asians tend to be more adept at lateral methods of problem solving (i.e. using connections) out of necessity. If you challenge someone and win, you cause the other person to lose face and he will hate you for life -- there will be no forgiveness. At best your enemy will not help you if you're involved in a car accident or medical emergency. At worst, you end up floating in the river. In this sense East Asians score higher in both IQ and lateral thinking/problem-solving process ("thinking outside the box") through its cultural values. Where East Asians tend to be lacking is in the divergent thinking (creativity).
ladislav wrote: Most of these racial hierarchies are very recent -and have appeared after colonialism has been introduced. Those people who had weapons and ships went in search on resources and then formed power classes in the countries they had conquered. The natives became peons. So, being darker means poorer and lower class. Being lighter means richer and upper class.
In countries like Thailand for example, lighter skinned means they do not till the land under the sun and they are land owners and darker means- tanned and peasants.
In tourist areas lighter skinned means people are 'Americans' and have money. But again, not always. Darker skinned Arabs from Saudi do not get treated bad in a lot of places. Again, it depends where you are.
There's a Japanese yaoi fiction that deals with the artificial construct of social classes by gender and color. The titles is Ai no Kusabi by Reiko Yoshihara. For those who are not homophobic, I recommend checking it out.
* WARNING * GAYDAR ALERT *
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ai_no_Kusabi <--- read this first before proceeding
http://www.junemanga.com/books/39/
http://www.ainokusabi.net/links.html
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1601332097
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9236414247# (fast forward a bit to start video)
Great post!momopi wrote:IQ = Convergent thinking (logic)Winston wrote:Here he says that Chinese and Japanese have the highest IQ's, higher even than white Europeans. How can that be, when most Chinese can't even think outside the box? Most I've met who can think outside the box tend to be white.
Creativity = Divergent thinking (brainstorming)
"Thinking outside the box" = over-used marketing cliché for lateral thinking (indirect). When you see marketing material with "thinking outside the box", take a pen and cross it out.
Lateral thinking is more indirect, it asks questions and offers alternatives in a non-challenging way. Critical thinking is more direct and challenges instead of asking.
Saving face is important in Asian culture, so Asians tend to be more adept at lateral methods of problem solving (i.e. using connections) out of necessity. If you challenge someone and win, you cause the other person to lose face and he will hate you for life -- there will be no forgiveness. At best your enemy will not help you if you're involved in a car accident or medical emergency. At worst, you end up floating in the river. In this sense East Asians score higher in both IQ and lateral thinking/problem-solving process ("thinking outside the box") through its cultural values. Where East Asians tend to be lacking is in the divergent thinking (creativity).
ladislav wrote: Most of these racial hierarchies are very recent -and have appeared after colonialism has been introduced. Those people who had weapons and ships went in search on resources and then formed power classes in the countries they had conquered. The natives became peons. So, being darker means poorer and lower class. Being lighter means richer and upper class.
In countries like Thailand for example, lighter skinned means they do not till the land under the sun and they are land owners and darker means- tanned and peasants.
In tourist areas lighter skinned means people are 'Americans' and have money. But again, not always. Darker skinned Arabs from Saudi do not get treated bad in a lot of places. Again, it depends where you are.
There's a Japanese yaoi fiction that deals with the artificial construct of social classes by gender and color. The titles is Ai no Kusabi by Reiko Yoshihara. For those who are not homophobic, I recommend checking it out.
* WARNING * GAYDAR ALERT *
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ai_no_Kusabi <--- read this first before proceeding
http://www.junemanga.com/books/39/
http://www.ainokusabi.net/links.html
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1601332097
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9236414247# (fast forward a bit to start video)
1. Yes, lateral thinking is a commonly used term in the corporate world (at least in UK) to denote thinking outside the box.
2. Interesting that you say "Thinking outside the box" is an overused marketing cliche. Well it seems Winston himself uses it heavily to market himself and this website, lol. IMO, the 3 most over-used terms here are that one, left brained/right brained, and 'pseudo'.
3. Thanks for highlighting the difference between lateral thinking and divergent thinking. Makes complete sense. In my experience, NE Asians are strong at lateral thinking, sometimes to the point of fooling the westerner into thinking of it as creativity.
4. Yea critical thinking is very much a western thing. I noticed that Taiwanese don't seem to appreciate it very much when its applied to them which of course happens sometimes when they work in MNCs.
5. Now how do you think left brained vs. right brained thinking fits into the terminology above?
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I think the right/left brain stereotype is over-used. While it's true that one side of the brain dominates in certain functions, both sides exist in complimentary to each other. Also and not everyone process the same functions on the same side (of the brain). A Japanese doctor named Wada developed the Wada test to see which side of the brain is dominate in what function. It's preferable to verify with the test before brain surgery, just in case:Rock wrote: 5. Now how do you think left brained vs. right brained thinking fits into the terminology above?
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yes there is a racial hierarchy.i see it every day as a black american its worse for me since im a black american who doesnt imbrace hip hop culture to the fullest.i have a son by a white american women who up and left me but thats another story.but i notice when i went to pick up my son for the summer we were out and theres allways some white people in his face talking about how handsome he is while not even saying a damb word to me before speaking to my son almost as if i werent there.same thing when i was with his mother theyd would speak to her and acknoweldage the fact that shes his parent and while ignoreing me as if i werent his father.if my son was full black we never hear shit from these same people.
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im black and the way asian women act makes me pissed and im not even asian all they do is stay up white peoples asses.i have a pretty diverse group of freinds speak languages and live in philly a diverse city,but why is it that asian women dont have diverse groups of freinds they barely date asian men and as a black man not even worth my time even being bothered with these cunts they are probably to most racist even more so than white women.
se eu soubesse o que eu sei hoje, teria mando mulheres americanas para foder-se há muitos anos.que deus abençoe o brasil!
Many "Americanized Asian Women" are extreme self haters. They hate men of color and always slobber over White or Jewish men. Makes me sick. At least have some pride in your culture, sheesh! I attribute a lot of this to racist American culture that puts men of color down constantly. Zionist run Hollywood is one of the main causes of this self hatred, as is the extreme materialistic nature of Western society that forces everyone to compete with one another for everything. It's not easy being a minority in this country.skateboardstephen wrote:im black and the way asian women act makes me pissed and im not even asian all they do is stay up white peoples asses.i have a pretty diverse group of freinds speak languages and live in philly a diverse city,but why is it that asian women dont have diverse groups of freinds they barely date asian men and as a black man not even worth my time even being bothered with these cunts they are probably to most racist even more so than white women.
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@zboy1,
You also have to remember that if you were to go to Asia, the average-looking-to-crazily-attractive Black male would get major positive response from some of the local women in those countries.
But ABC's (American[-ized]-born Chinese) and ABK's are the worst here in NYC aside from the I-Roc-Z Italian-American types Of WASPs and non-Guyanese Indians.
The only Asian women that I have seen successfully courted by Black American men in NYC were Japanese women and some ABJ women.
Especially every time I ran up on one in the subway or the streetS in Manhattan, they always proclaimed that their man was Black and that they loathe America and are ready to return to JP as soon as they have acquired their American education in the entirety of the respective curricula.
You also have to remember that if you were to go to Asia, the average-looking-to-crazily-attractive Black male would get major positive response from some of the local women in those countries.
But ABC's (American[-ized]-born Chinese) and ABK's are the worst here in NYC aside from the I-Roc-Z Italian-American types Of WASPs and non-Guyanese Indians.
The only Asian women that I have seen successfully courted by Black American men in NYC were Japanese women and some ABJ women.
Especially every time I ran up on one in the subway or the streetS in Manhattan, they always proclaimed that their man was Black and that they loathe America and are ready to return to JP as soon as they have acquired their American education in the entirety of the respective curricula.
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Re: Taboo questions about racial hierarchy, differences, ori
If this is true, I would say it is because the queen knew her place and not the other person. I have heard the same spoken of some very devout religious men, doesn't matter the system of religion, that in their presence people would break down crying, bow down and repent or start confessing. I have heard and read the same of some martial artists, that in their presence, even big brutes would "just know" not to mess with them, even if they were little guys.Winston wrote: I was reading David Icke's new book and it said that when people who hate the Queen of England and criticize her face her in person, they suddenly are in awe and bow down and pay her respect, because in her presence, their reptilian brain (known as R-Complex in science) which responds to hierarchy suddenly takes over. It's as if they know their place in the presence of someone higher on the hierarchy.
Could it be the same with race and skin color?
As to how it all came to be, I generally agree with what Ladislav wrote, except I would argue one point. It is not by mutation, the slightest of which usually results in the death of species. I would say the first humans contained within them all the genetic information necessary to express every phenotype we see in the world today. Something similar was discovered in a test where a modern zebra (or similar creature) was found to contain all the genetic information of a long extinct ancestor, and these genes were simply dormant, or not expressed. Through manipulation, this extinct creature could be bred back into existence. Birds can lose their wings, scorpions can lose their eyes, living in caves, and many other changes take place. It is adaptation, in my view, and not mutation. It is the changing of genetic expression to suit environment.
I would bring up an interesting consideration as regarding racial hierarchy over great time periods. It has been said that the first great world empires, Babylon, Egypt/Kush, Indus Valley, were very dark skinned (some would argue black) people. The next great world dominating empire, the Medes and the Persians, were brown skinned people. The next, being the Greeks, were olive or yellow skinned people. The last, being that of Rome, was of white people. What we see today might be called a continuation of that. Napoleon certainly thought so.
Another consideration; It has been long believed by some that the Jews, and the people of Canaan, modern day Jordan and Palestine, where help captive in Africa and used as slave labor thousands of years ago. At some point, they made a mass exodus to return to their supposed homeland. Subsequent religious texts, written by them, appear to outright condemn all things associated with the land, culture, beliefs, and practices of their previous captors in Africa. Some believe that hatred for and revenge against their African captors has been on their minds from that time, and culminated in a complete reversal during the transatlantic slave trade nearly three millennia later.
I personally make no conclusions about any of the above. You can see what I have written about belief and conclusions in many other places. Still, I find in all interesting, but little of it will help me do my job better or affect my modern life. Where some of this might lead to the creation of great stories for works of fiction is about as far as I get into it.
I don't care about race and IQ. My IQ was said to be above 140 and MENSA was chasing me during my high school and college days. This leads me to believe that any evidence which might lead to conclusions on race, culture or even environment and IQ is purely circumstantial. This is not to imply the PC notion that racial hierarchy is not real. One need only look outside to see it is very real. Unfortunately, any conclusions made based on what is seen, are often biased by ones long held beliefs.
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