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Anti-Multiculturalism

Post by tradcom » November 4th, 2010, 4:21 pm

Multiculturalism destroys individuals as well as societies. That's the simple reason I'm against it and any type of immigration (except for refugees).

On the individual level, people feel out of place when their genetics and culture do not match their outer environment. For example, an ordinary North American, having no external cultural experience, would have no yearning for better relationships or friendships.

On the societal level, multiculturalism destroys shared values, the bonds that hold society together. This creates suspicion among people and greatly contributes to a general anti-social atmosphere.

Indeed, the vast majority of people on this very website have some kind of link to a non-North American country, but live in the anti-social North American environment. This proves both points above.

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Post by ladislav » November 5th, 2010, 2:00 am

It all depends on how tolerant a society is and how they treat people. Brazil for one has accepted many immigrants and there is no multiculturalism- all people there are Brazilians. In the Philippines they have hundreds of cultures and languages which are very different from each other. They have people that are totally white and some who are very black. The people do not care what language you speak or what you look like and what accent you speak with. If you are a citizen of the Philippines, you are a Filipino. Same in Argentina. Millions of immigrants went there. Once you are a citizen, you are an Argentinian- no hyphenation.
In Anglo countries, they forcedly classify people and impose apartheid like structures on them to create some kind of orderly system so that people are easier to control.
Asian-American, native born/foreign born, African American. Who needs all this? Why not let people just be Americans period and call them that way? Regardless of origin. But they can't. Even if you are assimilated, still they pigeonhole you. The result is the ugly multiculturalism.
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Post by tradcom » November 5th, 2010, 2:18 am

Brazilian and Argentinian immigrants are overwhelmingly from Spanish/Portuguese-speaking countries, though. As for the Philippines, this is due to a lower average level of education than many less tolerant countries have.

People are not necessarily forcedly classified in Western countries. If you are foreign-born, it is virtually impossible for you to ever truly assimilate. For one thing, you will almost certainly always have an accent. For another, you will not truly be immersed in the culture (or lack thereof in the North American case) in the vast majority of cases, even if you believe that to be otherwise.

I believe that a person can only feel truly at home in the society (not necessarily country though, in cases like the FSU countries) the person grew up in.

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Post by ladislav » November 5th, 2010, 4:34 am

Brazilian and Argentinian immigrants are overwhelmingly from Spanish/Portuguese-speaking countries, though.
Every immigrant group is represented in those countries. People who have been there a long time and who speak local languages well are just Brazilians and Argentinians. You should open a Buenos Aires phone book. Kowalski, Goldberg, Mueller, every ethnicity on the face of the earth is there. But there is no multiculturalism. All citizens just call themselves by the name of the country they live in. Native born or not. Accent or not.
As for the Philippines, this is due to a lower average level of education than many less tolerant countries have.
You mean education makes people less tolerant? I beg to differ. I was in Thailand and they were less educated than Filipinos and far less tolerant of outsiders.
People are not necessarily forcedly classified in Western countries.
Yes, they are. In censuses you have to indicate ethnicity. On job and college applications you are given some boxes to check whether they are White, Asian, American Indian, etc. People label others by race very often.
If you are foreign-born, it is virtually impossible for you to ever truly assimilate.
I do not think it is the birth. What about Turks born in Germany or Jews in Czarist Russia? And you can check out some Hasidic Jews who live in New York- they have been in the USA for three generations or more- heavy accent, speaking Yiddish mostly and have nothing to do with the mainstream US culture.

What if they bring you to the US at age 1-4? Like Irving Berlin or Isaac Asimov? Very American people. And what about King of Thailand- born in Massachussetts - is he now an assimilated American? I do not think so. It is more about the environment in which you grew up up until age 12. After that you need to make a concerted effort to assimilate. That means, you need to work on the way you dress, talk, act, etc.

But mostly it depends on the society and how accepting it would be. Look at Japan for one. It has three generation Koreans who live there. No Japanese would ever consider them Japanese. And they were born and raised there. And speak Japanese with no accent. They are outsiders and outcasts there.
For one thing, you will almost certainly always have an accent.
If you do not make a conscious effort to get rid of it, sure. What if you do?
For another, you will not truly be immersed in the culture (or lack thereof in the North American case) in the vast majority of cases, even if you believe that to be otherwise.
Unless you immerse yourself as much as you can through the Army and things like that. It is really up to the individual, but it also depends on how open the society is. In some societies even if native born, even if totally lingustically assimilated, race/blood concepts will make you alienated. In some, even with a heavy accent and of a different color, you will be absorbed and assimilated and feel at home.
I believe that a person can only feel truly at home in the society (not necessarily country though, in cases like the FSU countries) the person grew up in.
Ask some local Jews or ethnic Germans or Russians who have been pogromized in Tuva and they will tell you a story or two.
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Post by tradcom » November 5th, 2010, 2:17 pm

I understand that there are exceptions. For the vast majority of people, however, this is the rule.

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Post by globetrotter » November 5th, 2010, 4:24 pm

ladislav wrote:It all depends on how tolerant a society is and how they treat people. Brazil for one has accepted many immigrants and there is no multiculturalism- all people there are Brazilians.
In Brasil it is expressed via Feminism. MultiCulti and Feminism are both offspring of Cultural Marxism.

Check out the laws re: sex and dating in Brasil.

http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma ... th-a-woman

First take the girl to a hospital emergency room and request a blood test for alcohol and other drugs, to avoid charges of sexual contact through fraud with a person unable to consent or resist.(Art. 215 CPB) Then go with her to a notary public and require her to file a declaration that you are practicing consensual sex, to avoid charges of rape. (Art. 213 CPB) Also, demand that she register a declaration with the notary republic that she is engaging in casual sex, to avoid any claim for breach of a stable common law relationship with her partner. (Law 9.278, Art. 7) Next, go to a laboratory and require an examination of beta-HCG (human chorionic gonadotrophin) to make sure that you are not the guy chosen to support it her in a pre-existing pregnancy with a baby that is not yours. (Law 11.804 Art. 6)
At the motel or at home, use condoms and don’t even think of “rough sex� to avoid accusations of domestic violence and get thrown in jail for spousal abuse ( Law Nº 11.340). Also, you should pamper her, praise her, never criticize her or complain about anything, (you must be the perfect mate), so as not to cause any “physical, sexual or psychological suffering and moral damage.� You of course are without any of the same rights in return. (Law 11.340 Art. 5) Upon leaving the motel, take her to the Forensic Medicine Institute and require a medical examination, be sure to request an expedited report for the possibility of bodily injury (Art. 129 CPB) and to check for the presence of sperm in the vagina, to TRY to avoid spending nine months of hell if she later becomes pregnant by another guy (Law 11.804 Art. 6). Finally, if the presence of sperm in the vagina of the girl is detected, immediately require a collection of samples for further investigation of paternity ((??Law1.060 Section 3 paragraph VI) and request a refund of any alimony obtained through deception or fraud. (Art. 171 CPB)

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Post by E_Irizarry » November 5th, 2010, 6:06 pm

In Brazil??? How long has that law been around for?? Man, stop fuckin' with the best country in the Western hemisphere!

@GlobteTrotter,

But how sternly do they enforce this law in Brasil? Not much I doubt it.
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Post by E_Irizarry » November 5th, 2010, 6:09 pm

ladislav wrote:It all depends on how tolerant a society is and how they treat people. Brazil for one has accepted many immigrants and there is no multiculturalism- all people there are Brazilians. In the Philippines they have hundreds of cultures and languages which are very different from each other. They have people that are totally white and some who are very black. The people do not care what language you speak or what you look like and what accent you speak with. If you are a citizen of the Philippines, you are a Filipino. Same in Argentina. Millions of immigrants went there. Once you are a citizen, you are an Argentinian- no hyphenation.
In Anglo countries, they forcedly classify people and impose apartheid like structures on them to create some kind of orderly system so that people are easier to control.
Asian-American, native born/foreign born, African American. Who needs all this? Why not let people just be Americans period and call them that way? Regardless of origin. But they can't. Even if you are assimilated, still they pigeonhole you. The result is the ugly multiculturalism.
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Post by Mr S » June 27th, 2011, 2:30 pm

odbo wrote:
Great post, if only people would start waking up en masse, by the time they do, if ever, it will be too late to change the course of events put into place decades ago by these globalists...
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Post by ladislav » June 27th, 2011, 3:48 pm

Switzerland is doing very well and it has 4 languages, not even two. The secret? They are educated an cultured people and are all called Swiss. Any Swiss citizen is called Swiss. No diversity is celebrated. Just being Swiss.
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Post by odbo » September 22nd, 2011, 8:28 am

ladislav wrote:Switzerland is doing very well and it has 4 languages, not even two. The secret? They are educated an cultured people and are all called Swiss. Any Swiss citizen is called Swiss. No diversity is celebrated. Just being Swiss.
No offense but Switzerland is the wealthiest nation on earth and didn't exactly earn that success and quality of life. Any nation in Europe would be doing great if the Vatican came in and dumped all its gold for safekeeping, then made sure the nation was left alone during WWII.

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Post by zboy1 » September 22nd, 2011, 8:53 am

I have to agree with the original poster wrote on here. I'm Asian American and I have lived here almost all of my life, and yet, I do not feel as if I am a part of this society or accepted by other races here. I've always thought that multiculturalism was B.S. because even though there was all of this talk about 'diversity' and 'acceptance' being promoted everywhere, I could literally see and feel the racial tension and the hatred people had for each other.

It didn't make sense to me then, and it still doesn't make sense to me now. In fact, I think race relations are even worse than when I growing up in the 80s and early 90s. I never really felt like I belonged in this country, and that sense of alienation has never really gone away to this day. I wonder if I'm the only one to feel this way?...

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Post by odbo » September 22nd, 2011, 11:39 pm

zboy1 wrote: I never really felt like I belonged in this country, and that sense of alienation has never really gone away to this day. I wonder if I'm the only one to feel this way?...
Story of my life. I think all RH negatives feel this way. We are the minority and have to go along with the degeneracy the majority seems to have no problem with. We are too spread out and don't even know why we're different. But I think anyone with a functioning brain feels alienated to some extent in post-1960s American society. Winston often speaks of the disconnected feeling he gets when he arrives here. The level might be vary depending on the situation but I think we all feel it. Some accept it, some block it out with booze or staying busy and keeping up appearances.

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Post by ladislav » September 24th, 2011, 3:46 am

The level might be vary depending on the situation but I think we all feel it. Some accept it, some block it out with booze or staying busy and keeping up appearances.
Some also gladly accept and embrace the apartheid and hang around with their "own kind". They also become bitter at "the world" - read US, because to them, it is the world, develop a wounded pride complex, start hating other races and treating them as enemies. This is not a good way to live your life. This is why yet some people choose to combine the US with some other countries in order to have a complete life and live outside that apartheid system.

Do not be fooled that the majority is happy and accepts other members. In many places in the US, out of state people are not treated well, and in the South they hate Northerners still. I was in Vermont once and it takes like 40 years for people in those states to accept an out of stater. Some never become accepted. Then, you have separation by age, money, class, interests and it just goes on and on and on. What minorities may view as a mainstream only looks like that. It is also very fragmented, so do not be fooled.

In any event, for many, the US is a cold, desolate place populated by grim and unfriendly people who doom them to life of never ending loneliness. In stark contrast with the friendly image they show on TV.

Here in the Philippines, ethnicity means very little as people simply do not have a social doctrine or a gov't educational system that promotes separation or multi culturalism. If anything, their gov't tries to promote unity of all citizens while it is the citizens who want to stick with their 120 different languages and cultures on their 7000 islands although even they are not so anal about it. For example, if anyone who speaks another language moves into a province that has an established tongue already, they will not be ostracized and not be told to get out.

I always compare the Philippine social system to the US and the former is so much more superior. Here are some more interesting characteristics:

1) Any citizen of the country has the right to call himself a Filipino. Native, naturalized, any color, any race. They do not have a box to check on any census whether people are Hispanic, black, etc.
2) Further ( non official) division has to do not with the blood or descent but with the language you use- if you speak say, the Visayan language ( even with an accent and as a non native) people will call you a Visayan and you can call yourself Visayan, too. No one will say otherwise.
This used to be the case with some American Indian tribes - if you say, spoke Lakota, you were a Lakota. End of the story.
3) In daily interactions as well as friendship, dating, marriage, ethnic/language divisions matter very little. And the concept of blood/race is either weak or simply non existent. People are not anal about these classifications.

Also, I must caution all those people who go abroad not to assume that only the US is this racist and other countries are nicer. God forbid you will make a wrong choice and end up in a land with worse racism than the US. So, choose your countries wisely.
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