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onethousandknives wrote:

Falcon wrote:

Winston wrote:Those are very typical in Taiwan. Notice the gay a** innocent smile and look on their faces. How the f**k can a normal straightforward outspoken guy like me emulate that to fit in in Taiwan? It's so gay a**! Now you guys see why I don't fit in Taiwan. There's no way I can emulate a gay a** innocent lighthearted sterile personality and expression, the guys have above. Yuck. It's sick and inhuman. Yet that's the ideal and norm in Taiwan?! WTF?! No wonder Taiwan is weird. No one can be that innocent naturally. It's like they are trying too hard to be innocent. Weird. Doesn't make sense and doesn't fit in my world. Weird, weird, weird.

Now you guys see what I mean. The expressions above say it all. Would you guys like me if I acted like that, super gay a** innocent? lol

I could easily kick those guys' asses and knock them over like bowling pins. Those types always back down from fights. If you approach them menacingly, they get intimidated and run away. They aren't real men at all.

In Taiwan, people keep saying I look like I'm almost 30, even though I'm actually almost 10 years younger. Some people are even surprised when I tell them my age, and often balk in surprise, saying, "But you look so ... mature!" I guess it's simply because I don't look like a pre-pubescent boy?

But in Indonesia, Mexico, the Philippines and other countries when the average man in his 20's tends to look more masculine, people all say I look my age and aren't surprised at all when I tell them my age.

Asians, assuming their diet and lifestyle is OK, I think have pretty much the best genetics on the planet for everything. My Vietnamese barber for example, looks about 35, and is over 50.


That guy there is Chinese Olympic weightlifter and Olympic gold medalist Lu Xiaojun. He is 29-30 years old in those pictures. Besides slightly more visible muscle, and a slightly stronger jawline, he pretty much does just look like a K-Pop star but is one of the strongest men on Earth today. I mean, people (mostly white people do this) can talk shit about Asians "not being masculine enough" and "lacking testosterone" or eating too much tofu or whatever, but this is pretty much the equivalent of a fat girl badmouthing the skinny girl in class and saying she's got real curves for real men.

Thankfully I have more along the lines of the "Asian problem" and most of the time still get carded at liquor stores and have people call me "that kid" at 24. So it's all good.

As far as looking young in mid age and older, a lot of people with African black ancestry fare much better than NE Asians. Think Chris Rock now 50 who looks virtually the same as he did 20 years ago. Most middle aged local dudes I know in Taiwan look...middle aged. The age markers may manifest in somewhat different ways than with whites, blacks or other groups. But they still look roughly their age in most cases I've observed.

Black men also have high levels of testosterone, Asians men don't.

For certain types of measurable memory and intelligence, yes, NE Asians tend to be more gifted genetically. But there are still groups who fare even better on that metric.

Some thoughts on this subject.

Asians fight in groups and with overwhelming numerical superiority - that's a cultural fact, which is why if you get into an altercation or someone starts trouble with you over here - they KNOW that numbers will be on hand to give you a shoeing if you're in a public place or they have their friends there already - you might win the battle but you can never win the war, say for example you did manage to give someone a shoeing over here one-on-one - bet your life you will take the beating of your life if he gets all his buddies to find where you live and give you a hiding. Kai275 goes into great detail about this in his guide to dating Chinese women.

This is not to say there aren't people who can't kick your arse, there obviously are - they just won't tackle you one on one - they make sure there are people around or they have back up. Cowardly? I would say it is a cultural mechanicism more than cowardice - their behaviour would be seen as cowardly in Western eyes. They're brave in groups - which is why they make good soldiers - in section/platoon formation - the Chinese and the North Koreans were formidable against the better armed UN in the Korean War and of course in Vietnam and showed great courage under fire (and of course the Japanese in World War II showed such courage under fire - The Allies deemed them 'fanatics').

If I had to build an army, they would be Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, Thai or Japanese soldiers - they get together and they're brave and they react well to direct orders. Which is why the most highly decorated US Army regiment in history is a Japanese-American one - even in a white man's army, the bravest soldiers are Asian.

You don't get to see many flower (they call them 'Sunshine boys' over here...) boys outside the Tier 1 or maybe Tier 2 cities in China. You do see them there where they can afford and in fact such designs of clothing and make up etc are available - and of course there are plenty of those types in South Korea and Japan. In the rest of China - most blokes have the same short back and sides haircut and dress somewhat the same - sunshine boys what you might find in Shanghai are pretty rare in central China - of course, there are plenty who have the basic genetic makeup to transform themselves into sunshine boys but they just don't have the money nor the access to the kind of clothing and hair accessories/make up etc to transform themselves into such gentlemen.

It's certain kind of girls who like that kind of overcoffiuered boy anyway - usually teenagers or very young adult women - I don't think many Chinese women over the age of 25 would find that look attractive...

I'd like to add in the Anglosphere. It seems there's a cult of "anti-intellectualism" and "frontier masculinity." Where "sensuality" is frown upon. What you perceive as "feminine" is actually "sensual" which is more of a Catholic and French value. English and French have always been rivals. Hence, why they wouldn't promote "sensuality" or "feminity" as something desirable.

Now with Asians(primarily Koreans) they take it one step further and it goes beyond sensual.

Well I think it has to do with women liking such kind of men or "flower boys".
There is no longer massive world wars or abject poverty.. women can afford to like men that are more relatable to them and more in touch with their emotions.

Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑

April 16th, 2023, 6:38 am

Well I think it has to do with women liking such kind of men or "flower boys".
There is no longer massive world wars or abject poverty.. women can afford to like men that are more relatable to them and more in touch with their emotions.

Then they end up cucking such men by f***ing the ones who aren't feminine acting. That's why cuckoldery is so relevant now, the men who act and look like that are usually the ones who promote the shit in some compacity. If women want someone who is just like them, they would be better off dating other women instead of men and from what I've seen in the West. passive Lesbian women never for for passive Lesbian women, they seek out a dominant lesbian woman.

WanderingProtagonist wrote: ↑

April 16th, 2023, 10:44 am

Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑

April 16th, 2023, 6:38 am

Well I think it has to do with women liking such kind of men or "flower boys".
There is no longer massive world wars or abject poverty.. women can afford to like men that are more relatable to them and more in touch with their emotions.

Then they end up cucking such men by f***ing the ones who aren't feminine acting. That's why cuckoldery is so relevant now, the men who act and look like that are usually the ones who promote the shit in some compacity. If women want someone who is just like them, they would be better off dating other women instead of men and from what I've seen in the West. passive Lesbian women never for for passive Lesbian women, they seek out a dominant lesbian woman.

I think that is ending up hurting the women in the end. Women like flower boys but they also want to go for masculine alpha male top dogs which is only 20% of men. Western women got spoiled by too many choices because of social media, internet dating, etc. The average men stands no chance finding the right mate.

Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑

April 16th, 2023, 12:25 pm

WanderingProtagonist wrote: ↑

April 16th, 2023, 10:44 am

Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑

April 16th, 2023, 6:38 am

Well I think it has to do with women liking such kind of men or "flower boys".
There is no longer massive world wars or abject poverty.. women can afford to like men that are more relatable to them and more in touch with their emotions.

Then they end up cucking such men by f***ing the ones who aren't feminine acting. That's why cuckoldery is so relevant now, the men who act and look like that are usually the ones who promote the shit in some compacity. If women want someone who is just like them, they would be better off dating other women instead of men and from what I've seen in the West. passive Lesbian women never for for passive Lesbian women, they seek out a dominant lesbian woman.

I think that is ending up hurting the women in the end. Women like flower boys but they also want to go for masculine alpha male top dogs which is only 20% of men. Western women got spoiled by too many choices because of social media, internet dating, etc. The average men stands no chance finding the right mate.

I honestly wish it was hurting the women but it doesn't look that way, women aren't giving up any of this. I think the real killer would be for more males to turn into transgenders so the women really wont have options anymore. What are they going to do if 80 percent of their society is trans? Share the few men left who isn't one?

chanta76 wrote: ↑

August 14th, 2012, 11:39 pm

Naoki,


Not sure if this a troll post but I visited South Korea often. At least with Korea the young Korean girls prefer the masculine pretty look which is not too dissimilar to america where young American girls prefer masculine pretty boy looks. For example look at boys bands in those two countries. South Korean boy bands are pretty boys with a masculine spin on it which are the same with USA. I'm talking about teenagers and boy bands.

Now if your talking about looking macho with muscles and tattoos. Some Korean girls do go for that look but it's just a minority. I think height is bigger factor . Asian guys are getting taller which is good but still compared to Northern Europeans not as tall.

In America they do prefer the more macho look but guess what. I see allot more Asian American guys hitting the gym looking buff with tattoos but most of these Asian American guys chase after the Asian American girls.

I think Asian American guys can get white girls if they put the time and effort into it. Most white girls do not get approach by Asian men so they don't really have an opinion. If anything height is really a bigger issue than racial stereotype.

For example I seen 6 ft tall Asian American guys date white girls at a easier rate compared to an Asian guy who is 5'8 . But if the 5'8 Asian guy is 200lbs of muscles ....it's different story.

And also k-pop and j-pop has an international following of western women. There are white girls who find asian men attractive base upon k-pop and Asian soap opera. So I don't agree with everything your saying.

Yes, there is some racism toward asian men in the dating game but the other factor is that Asian guys don't really chase after white girls at the same rate you see white guys chasing after asian girls. That's part of the reason why you see more Asian women with white men.

I really think a decent successful Asian American guy with a good head on his shoulder should have no trouble dating all types of women.

In the USA the concept of moderation (much like homeopathy/ homeopathic medicine) seems lacking especially the Asian American who are achievers in corporate, engineering, medicine, law, though there are rare folks with this hobby.

In Asia, after the 1970s it's basically what it was like prior to the 1700s. Now, keep in mind Asians are very different from Asian Americans. Chiropractic and herbal medicine is abundant in Asia.

So thus, the price of airlines skyrocketed and basically happier abroad finds a business. It's also similar to not raising a child, foster home for years etc.

This compares to supposed theory of Atlantis.

Basically the idea is there was a time where people weren't on earth. Some souls were content with Earth, with differences in geography and races. Others weren't. I have no idea if people had existed in other planets or dimensions.

However it does explain cognitive dissonance.

Keep in mind those folk who subscribe to Rudolf Steiners ideas of race, best avoid. Rudolf Steiner, an infj, is actually is quite down to earth. Google site of Steiner's describe an extreme anti-Se.

Se isn't so terrible, except to those Americans who didn't listen to happierabroad.com and got arrested during Donald Trump's presidency (2017-2020).