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I got laid off and now feel sorry for people who have a job!

Post by Will N. Dowd » August 30th, 2012, 8:38 pm

I got "laid off" a couple of days ago from my high end stereo equipment job I have had for the past 8 years, after 20 years in the industry. I was actually fired, but the owner agreed to pay me severance and claim she laid me off so I can apply for Employment Insurance. I realized a couple of months ago that my employer was breaking several Employment Standards regulations and so I called her on it, and was immediately abused, punished, threatened and essentially dismissed. I talked my way out if it, and continued to work, and then she payed me what I was entitled to under the act, but she then broke another rule by making illegal deductions from my cheque. So I filed a formal complaint with the Employment Standards branch. I recorded all the conversations I had with her without her knowing and had lots of proof she was abusing me. Two days ago we had two heated arguments about illegal deductions from my cheques and she tossed me out and told me she would pay me severance to get rid of me.

She had no right to do it, since she is not allowed to abuse me in any way for calling her on breaking employment laws, and she is not allowed to make deductions from my cheques either. I am the top salesman there this year, and was in 2011, 2010, and 2007. The second best salesman quit on her this week also, so this week she has lost her no 1 and no 2 salesmen, bad news for her. Yesterday we had a meeting at the Employment Standards office with them acting as a mediator to solve the issue if deductions. It took 5 hours and was very boring but she was proven to be clearly in the wrong for deductions and dismissal, and I' m going today to pick up a 5 figure cheque as my settlement. I had mixed feelings about it, but not anymore. I'm sad to miss out on the potential to make money there, but the store just depressed me, and obviously my relationship with the owner had deteriorated to the point that we didn't trust each other any more. On the plus side of course, I can get probably about $2000 a month on EI, do whatever I want, sleep in, be lazy and relax. I owe no money, paid my place off, and I can continue to sell my stuff on craigslist. Every week my pile of stuff gets smaller and smaller and every thing I get rid of makes me happier and my bank account bigger.


The thing that started all this was actually my trip to the Philippines in May this year. When I got back I was so depressed, I knew I just had to get back there ASAP and stay for good. Before going there I was really into working at my job and making money. As soon as I got back, I basically couldn't care less. The thought of going back to work everyday while I could be banging chicks in the Philippines was so miserable I simply couldn't take it anymore. I knew I had to get back there ASAP and I didn't care about work anymore. So now as my title says I actually feel sorry for people who have a job, they are slaves to the system, and I want no part of it.

My goal now is to tie up a few loose ends here and be back in the Philippines by January. I'm goijng to pay a visit to the Filipino consulate here in town. I'm going to continue to sell as much of my stuff as possible, spend as little and save as much money as I can. My parents live in Victoria and have a big house there, but they are away until the end of October, so I will hang out here in Vancouver, and either rent out or sell my place by November or December 1st. I will send or take anything that doesn't sell here to their house there, and stay there until January and then go to Davao again to stay. I can probably get about $1400 a month in rent for my place. It will still cost me about $350 a month in maintenance fees, property tax and management fees, which means I will get about $1000 a month to live off of, certainly plenty for Davao. I also have huge cushion in my back account, and I have a reverse mortgage which I've invested, so I am financially in a great position even without a job.

Once I was in the Philippines and had a never ending supply of cute, sexy, sweet and humble pinays at my disposal to be with all the time I was ruined for life. I can wear shorts and a t-shirt everyday, everyone speaks english, and I can just be a lazy bum. I don't need porn on the internet, I can get the real thing anytime anywhere. After being there, the thought of living and working in Canada was so depressing it was actually making me mentally ill and I was concerned for my mental health and well being. I want to be a sexpat, and I'm not afraid to admit it. I now feel genuinely sorry for anyone that has a job, boss, wife or lives in the feminist anglosphere. At least I discovered at age 40 that life sucks here if you are a man. I'll keep posting updates on my status to being hopefully happier abroad by January. My trip to the Philippines was step 1, step 2 was losing my job well, step 3 will be selling or renting out my place, step 4 will be getting out of here! I'm half way there, step 1 and 2 are complete!

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Post by Winston » August 30th, 2012, 9:01 pm

Why don't you expose her by putting her full name in a new thread and posting it in the scam section of this forum? lol

Didn't you say you inherited several million dollars in your intro thread? If so, why were you working at a sales job?

What will you tell the employment office? That you feel sorry for everyone who has a job? lol. When I worked there, everyone who walked in said that their life was empty and meaningless without a job. lol. I don't know if they really meant that or were just saying that because that's what the agency wanted to hear? lol
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Post by Will N. Dowd » August 30th, 2012, 9:34 pm

Never said I inherited several million dollars, because I didn't! If I had I would have gone to the Philippines long ago!
Winston, I have sent you multiple FB friend requests, I even messaged you on DIA to ask you. You are essentially my hero so it would be nice to connect on FB. I hope we meet somewhere someday, I agree with everything you write and say. Your life experiences mirror mine in many ways.

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Post by royaldude » August 30th, 2012, 9:35 pm

dude i feel for you, i worked in the us office job and well i hated it. honestly i dont think i ever worked sober. i lived in the phil now latin america and can say money is not worth it. i own a sweet apartment heart of a major city in us 10k plus to furnish it, nice car. sick wardrobe 1k leather jacket several suits. what did i do. well i sold my furniture for 3k have, sold car for 14k gave away most of my clothes i dont want to apear rich so i didnt take my expensive clothes with me. my apartment i found a company to manage it since i bought it in cash i make 300 a month from renting it out. then i basically reduced my belongings to two suitcases. (the stuff you own eventually ends up owning you) i have never been happier. i never want to live in a first world country again. for some not all when you experience life in the "3rd world" you realize what you really love. my family and some friends think im nuts well thats ok because im really happy
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Post by zboy1 » August 31st, 2012, 12:18 am

After seeing the kinda of crap my father has to go through on a daily basis working for a big corporation, I promised myself I would never work for a corporation in my lifetime.

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Post by momopi » August 31st, 2012, 1:19 am

Can you tell us what Canadian unemployment insurance pays and for how long in your province?

For comparison, in California the maximum you can receive is $450-$475-ish per week, and those filing today can receive benefits for up to 79 weeks.

If you're good at sales you can get jobs anywhere. At my previous consulting gig I had an expense account for travel and meals, which I spent maybe $70k/year. In comparison the sales lady had $170k expense account. When we visit the client she pays for dinner. ;p. I had a lot of fun with trips to Canada. One time I was in North Bay Ontario waiting for parts to clear customs. There wasn't anything to do so I went ice fishing. Lol.

My $0.02 is not to limit yourself to a store, office, or some town in Philippines. Look for international sales gigs where your employer pays for your travel and expenses. You're only 40, go out and see the world. Companies like Bombadier hire sales people for Europe and Asia frequently. I worked as a 100% traveling consultant for about a year and went to 20-30 US States, 5 Canadian provinces, and Shenzhen China. I'm 41 and that was the most travel I've ever done in a year, and my employer paid for everything.

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Post by Winston » October 4th, 2013, 3:21 pm

I felt great and free too, whenever I got laid off. I've never understood why Americans get so depressed and hurt when they get laid off. They are freed from the monotonous prison of the high stress corporate environment. That's a highly POSITIVE and elating thing. Why do Americans treat that as a highly negative ego crushing thing? I've never understood that. Americans are strange creatures.

I guess not everyone loves freedom as much as we do. Some people would not know what to do with freedom. It's pretty sad. Such people must be very empty inside.
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Post by NorthAmericanguy » October 4th, 2013, 10:02 pm

Will N. Dowd wrote:I got "laid off" a couple of days ago from my high end stereo equipment job I have had for the past 8 years, after 20 years in the industry. I was actually fired, but the owner agreed to pay me severance and claim she laid me off so I can apply for Employment Insurance. I realized a couple of months ago that my employer was breaking several Employment Standards regulations and so I called her on it, and was immediately abused, punished, threatened and essentially dismissed. I talked my way out if it, and continued to work, and then she payed me what I was entitled to under the act, but she then broke another rule by making illegal deductions from my cheque. So I filed a formal complaint with the Employment Standards branch. I recorded all the conversations I had with her without her knowing and had lots of proof she was abusing me. Two days ago we had two heated arguments about illegal deductions from my cheques and she tossed me out and told me she would pay me severance to get rid of me.

She had no right to do it, since she is not allowed to abuse me in any way for calling her on breaking employment laws, and she is not allowed to make deductions from my cheques either. I am the top salesman there this year, and was in 2011, 2010, and 2007. The second best salesman quit on her this week also, so this week she has lost her no 1 and no 2 salesmen, bad news for her. Yesterday we had a meeting at the Employment Standards office with them acting as a mediator to solve the issue if deductions. It took 5 hours and was very boring but she was proven to be clearly in the wrong for deductions and dismissal, and I' m going today to pick up a 5 figure cheque as my settlement. I had mixed feelings about it, but not anymore. I'm sad to miss out on the potential to make money there, but the store just depressed me, and obviously my relationship with the owner had deteriorated to the point that we didn't trust each other any more. On the plus side of course, I can get probably about $2000 a month on EI, do whatever I want, sleep in, be lazy and relax. I owe no money, paid my place off, and I can continue to sell my stuff on craigslist. Every week my pile of stuff gets smaller and smaller and every thing I get rid of makes me happier and my bank account bigger.


The thing that started all this was actually my trip to the Philippines in May this year. When I got back I was so depressed, I knew I just had to get back there ASAP and stay for good. Before going there I was really into working at my job and making money. As soon as I got back, I basically couldn't care less. The thought of going back to work everyday while I could be banging chicks in the Philippines was so miserable I simply couldn't take it anymore. I knew I had to get back there ASAP and I didn't care about work anymore. So now as my title says I actually feel sorry for people who have a job, they are slaves to the system, and I want no part of it.

My goal now is to tie up a few loose ends here and be back in the Philippines by January. I'm goijng to pay a visit to the Filipino consulate here in town. I'm going to continue to sell as much of my stuff as possible, spend as little and save as much money as I can. My parents live in Victoria and have a big house there, but they are away until the end of October, so I will hang out here in Vancouver, and either rent out or sell my place by November or December 1st. I will send or take anything that doesn't sell here to their house there, and stay there until January and then go to Davao again to stay. I can probably get about $1400 a month in rent for my place. It will still cost me about $350 a month in maintenance fees, property tax and management fees, which means I will get about $1000 a month to live off of, certainly plenty for Davao. I also have huge cushion in my back account, and I have a reverse mortgage which I've invested, so I am financially in a great position even without a job.

Once I was in the Philippines and had a never ending supply of cute, sexy, sweet and humble pinays at my disposal to be with all the time I was ruined for life. I can wear shorts and a t-shirt everyday, everyone speaks english, and I can just be a lazy bum. I don't need p**n on the internet, I can get the real thing anytime anywhere. After being there, the thought of living and working in Canada was so depressing it was actually making me mentally ill and I was concerned for my mental health and well being. I want to be a sexpat, and I'm not afraid to admit it. I now feel genuinely sorry for anyone that has a job, boss, wife or lives in the feminist anglosphere. At least I discovered at age 40 that life sucks here if you are a man. I'll keep posting updates on my status to being hopefully happier abroad by January. My trip to the Philippines was step 1, step 2 was losing my job well, step 3 will be selling or renting out my place, step 4 will be getting out of here! I'm half way there, step 1 and 2 are complete!


Sorry to hear about your job situation, but at the same time, when doors close, new doors open!

As far as renting out your home, it sounds like a good plan and something I want to do in the future. It's the only thing that makes sense if you want to have a legitimate chance of earning stable income when you move overseas unless you save up a nice pile of cash which is certainly possible if you don't have kids or ever get married. Speaking of which, just had a wife of a doctor tell me the other day not to have any kids because they're overrated and expensive.

As far as people who have jobs, I feel sorry for them as well. I was dating girl who works like a dog doing the same thing everyday from 8am to sometimes 7pm. Her job is her life and she only gets 2 weeks vacation time which makes it too short to travel anywhere far. She can't see that her job is effecting her personality and it's killing her slowly so she drinks after work to deal with the stress and lack of living well rounded, well balanced life.

It's just sad all around and most people are in the grinder to either pay for a bunch of ungrateful kids or a overpriced house that will take them 20-30 years to pay it off....
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Post by NorthAmericanguy » October 4th, 2013, 10:05 pm

momopi wrote:Can you tell us what Canadian unemployment insurance pays and for how long in your province?

For comparison, in California the maximum you can receive is $450-$475-ish per week, and those filing today can receive benefits for up to 79 weeks.

If you're good at sales you can get jobs anywhere. At my previous consulting gig I had an expense account for travel and meals, which I spent maybe $70k/year. In comparison the sales lady had $170k expense account. When we visit the client she pays for dinner. ;p. I had a lot of fun with trips to Canada. One time I was in North Bay Ontario waiting for parts to clear customs. There wasn't anything to do so I went ice fishing. Lol.

My $0.02 is not to limit yourself to a store, office, or some town in Philippines. Look for international sales gigs where your employer pays for your travel and expenses. You're only 40, go out and see the world. Companies like Bombadier hire sales people for Europe and Asia frequently. I worked as a 100% traveling consultant for about a year and went to 20-30 US States, 5 Canadian provinces, and Shenzhen China. I'm 41 and that was the most travel I've ever done in a year, and my employer paid for everything.
I agree with momopi... Btw, I was in Canada about a month ago and personally I loved the place.

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Post by deasil875 » October 4th, 2013, 10:14 pm

Great post. It's no surprise that Americans are braindead, with sucker men chasing the bullshit American dream by staying on the hamster wheel of the corporate ratrace to impress, and attract, then support a ball-busting, feminazi materialistic two timing whore of a wife. Add kids into the picture and he can kiss his sex life goodbye. Morning sex to satisfy morning wood? Hah! Dream on. He's lucky enough if he could get it once every fiscal quarter.

PI a huge contrast. Poon whenever you want, wherever you want it, and pinays I've heard are very easily aroused and open to sexual advances when asleep.

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Post by Hero » October 4th, 2013, 10:39 pm

Will N. Dowd wrote:Never said I inherited several million dollars, because I didn't! If I had I would have gone to the Philippines long ago!
Winston, I have sent you multiple FB friend requests, I even messaged you on DIA to ask you. You are essentially my hero so it would be nice to connect on FB. I hope we meet somewhere someday, I agree with everything you write and say. Your life experiences mirror mine in many ways.
Winston also ignored my FB friend requests.

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Post by Hero » October 4th, 2013, 10:40 pm

Hey Will, I often wish that I could get fired myself. That will be a great day for me, since I don't have the guts to just quit.

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Post by NorthAmericanguy » October 6th, 2013, 7:49 pm

I thought posting this would be appropriate to the topic:


*Taken from JD UNDERGOUND Forum*

"Yeah. I'm one of the "lucky ones." I have a job. It pays decent. Hours are decent. I don't even hate my boss. I count my blessings every single day. I have a nice home, a nice car, a wonderful wife and child. Too many blessings to count. Seriously. In case I don't remember all of the above, I just read a couple threads here to remind me ... that I could be living in my parents' basement. Or working for $8.00 an hour in menial labor. Or my student loan debt could be 4 times as big as it is, like many of you poor schmoes.

So yeah ... I'm blessed. No room to complain. But I'm about to do it, anyway.

Here goes.

After a whopping 3 months in practice, I've reached the not-remotely-surprising conclusion that I HATE BEING A LAWYER. I hate everything about it. Every. Single. Thing.

It's a miserable, useless profession. I have no respect for other attorneys, I've lost all respect for the profession as a whole, and I pretty much hate what I've become.

In 3 months. What will 10 years do to me?

My wife said to me the other day, in all seriousness, that she liked me better unemployed. She's right. I liked me better, too.

Every second of every minute of every day is just ... shit. I'd feel more useful if I were, in fact, shoveling shit. That's a job I could be proud of. Something that adds value.

This? This is mindless paper-pushing. Endless, vapid, shallow arguments with other lawyers about the utterly inane. Meaningless court proceedings that drag on interminably.

The deadlines. Oh, dear God, the stupid deadlines. And the case load. A hundred things to do every day, no time to get any of it done, every last one of those things is critical. 30 phone calls from clients a day, all desperate to talk for no reason at all, very conversation lasts half an hour and is completely wasted time.

Don't even get me started on the clients. After caseload and dealing with other attorneys all day, the clients are the worst part.

Hell, its all the worst part. But wait! What about "the law?" Isn't it riveting and fascinating?

Hardly. It's boilerplate stupidity. The whole profession is so risk adverse that heads explode at the faintest new idea or creative thought.

It's a coal mine plus an assembly line. There's no time for thought. No time for meaningful research or in-depth client contact. Just churn out the volume, baby. Run run run, collect that fee, listen to 12 clients scream, listen to the paralegals bitch, listen to more clients scream.

It's endless and numbing and wasted and useless.

And the very worst part? Seeing opposing counsel who are partners in their firms. Because yeah, they're making a lot more money, but they're doing the same damn thing. Same issues, same courthouse, same conversations.

Want the truth? I'm jealous of those without jobs. I really am. I know exactly the response that statement will bring. But it's still true. I plan my exit strategy from this horrible profession every free second of the day. All 3 of them.

HEY LEMMINGS: look, just bail, okay? Seriously, I don't care if you're a 3L. Or a graduate about to take the bar. JUST STOP. No more sunk cost. Don't climb on board this trap. Go do something else. ANYTHING ELSE.

Every single lawyer I've met feels the same. They all hate it, they're all trapped. It's like a big haunted house yelling "GET OUT" and nobody listens. Get the hell out!

I just hate it. So much.

Odds are very, very high that you will, too, if you're "lucky" enough to even find a job in this "profession" of ours.

/rant over

Yeah, I know what you're going to say. But that felt good. And maybe some 1L or 0L will listen, and stop.

The only thing worse than being an unemployed loser lawyer - which is what most of you statistically will become - is an employed loser lawyer.

Get. Out. Now.
"



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Post by djfourmoney » October 7th, 2013, 4:09 am

Winston wrote:I felt great and free too, whenever I got laid off. I've never understood why Americans get so depressed and hurt when they get laid off. They are freed from the monotonous prison of the high stress corporate environment. That's a highly POSITIVE and elating thing. Why do Americans treat that as a highly negative ego crushing thing? I've never understood that. Americans are strange creatures.

I guess not everyone loves freedom as much as we do. Some people would not know what to do with freedom. It's pretty sad. Such people must be very empty inside.
I wasn't depressed at all, likely unlike White folk, little is excepted from Black people. But seriously, I didn't care as long as I got my final paycheck and over the years companies would play games with that, to the point I would have to get the county involved.

I can do what I want. Sure I have financial limitations and that makes it nearly impossible to date. But to be honest, there wasn't much out there anyway, so I don't care and don't miss it.

I'll be talking more about what to do to get off the treadmill that many are scared to do for really no good reason. White folk are easily shamed by their status at various times in they lives.

Divorce, Unemployed, etc.

The world functioned just fine before capitalism and frankly what's been happening since the 1970's is not capitalism, its Welfare for the Rich or a type of Social Welfare the rest of us do not get to enjoy even if we do have money.

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Post by Ghost » October 7th, 2013, 11:57 am

I'm the same way. I quit my job last year. I was so f***ing depressed and my spirit had been crushed so entirely that I left suddenly even though I would likely have been fired the following day. It was that important to get out right then. I don't feel sorry for those who keep slaving away. And that's what they are: slaves. None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe themselves to be free. In this globalized, internationalized world, there's no reason to tie yourself down to one place and one stupid, no-paying, dead end job.

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