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Is America a soul-destroying place?

Post by clowny » February 12th, 2013, 12:56 pm

Here in australia, there is no culture. Everything is boring, bland and business-like. The people have no passion and no soul. We live just to work and pay taxes. There is no community, no sense of belonging. Nothing to unite people. There is an anti-male vibe everywhere you go. You can't escape it. On television and radio we are bombarded with feminist propaganda, demonising men and portraying us as barbarians who just want to rape and assault women. The people here spend all their time after dark either at the pub, or locked away in their houses watching television. The mainstream media over here is a giant brainwashing system. The women here are pig sluts, corrupted by feminism. They are not nurturing or feminine. There is no hope for this place. There is no redemption, no salvation.

Is it the same feeling in america?

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Post by Winston » February 12th, 2013, 5:37 pm

Yes, but even more so. Go to America and compare, and you will see that the magnitude of what you're talking about is greater in America. It will help you appreciate Australia more.
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Post by Tsar » February 12th, 2013, 7:21 pm

I believe that America is definitely one of the places that destroys souls. I think that there are three basic forms of souls: negative, neutral, and positive souls. I believe that America and Anglo countries have destroyed many peoples souls which is why everything feels negative in America and it's difficult for positive souls to find happiness in America.

Any culture that adopts the American paradigm will face a social decline. There is increased negativity and any culture it did have tends to go away. I don't believe it's a coincidence that people are warmer and there is a more positive aura in places that haven't been ruined by the American paradigm (extreme individualism, greed, feminism, mainstream homosexuality, anti-religion sentiment, glorification of violence and promiscuity, sluts, no community, social isolation, negativity, censorship, and corporatism).

People in America look angry, mean and unhelpful, not respectable, classy, or refined.

In Europe, figure skating, slow dances, fencing, and more noble sports are emphasized. People are warm and respective wherever they go, many dress classy (especially the women), and even in places where they aren't supposed to smile in public, they are likely well mannered and nice. I believe that morals, any form of religion that emphasizes virtues, and traditions all help to increase the positive aura of a place and brighten the souls of people.

In a place like America the only places where you can feel more at peace is when you're not around people. It's because of the negativity.

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Re: Is America a soul-destroying place?

Post by Tsar » February 12th, 2013, 7:27 pm

clowny wrote:Is it the same feeling in america?
America is the heart of the world's negativity. I would say that America is three times worse than Australia. The Australian economy, national healthcare, and better job market makes Australia one tier better than America.

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Post by ladislav » February 12th, 2013, 8:09 pm

I was not in Oz for long but it was not as bad as the US. I did not see as many fat people ( the fat ones were American tourists). Then I had women help me get my bags into a subway car. I also saw happy white people or at least happy looking white people- bogans ( redneck equivalent). In the US they look mean and unhappy. I also saw friendly and English speaking Oriental people- I saw Korean store owners actually smile at me when I walked into their restaurant or store at 3 AM. In the US, most Koreans look like snarling bulldogs about to bite you and they snap back at you if you ask something ( plus their English is horrible).

Generally, because Oz does not let people in if they do not pass an English test, you do not have all these non English speaking people who are complex-ridden and constantly pouting at you. And you also do not have an equivalent of Puerto Rico.
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Post by Andrewww » February 12th, 2013, 8:17 pm

America caters to consumerism. You don't wanna stay in the house and watch TV ? Then go to the mall, eat junk food, buy shit you don't need, drive that expensive car you just bought. You want to explore nature ? Drive to the nearest resort, spend money on junk food twice as expensive, buy more shit you don't need, rent a room for $200. You'd rather spend the night in a tent ? No problem, you still have to pay for the "priviledge" of using public domain. Make sure you don't go on "private property", someone might shoot you. Hell, you can't even explore your own country because it doesn't belong to you, it belongs to the almighty dollar.

Hollywood and the media is doing a great job selling you this "product" (aka America) and making it look like a great place.

It's like that quote in Fight Club:

Tyler: Man, I see in fight club the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived. I see all this potential, and I see squandering. Goddamn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables, slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.

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Post by clowny » February 13th, 2013, 2:13 am

Interesting points ladislav. Although I must say, your observation that there weren't as many fat people here is a little baffling to me. Australia is officially ranked as the most obese nation in the entire world (60% of the adult population is overweight). If I were to hazard a guess, I would say most of that 60% is marginally to moderately overweight - you won't see as many land whales here as you would in the US (btw, I haven't been to the US, i'm just speaking from my observations based mostly on US reality TV).
ladislav wrote: Then I had women help me get my bags into a subway car.
A "subway car" means a train I guess? LOL, you guys use different terminology for some things. Yeah, you will have certain people help you out like that in australia (random acts of kindness) but this is unfortunately counterbalanced by what you have to put up with from all the bogans and human filth that you encounter, especially if you work in the city or use public transport on a daily basis.
ladislav wrote: Generally, because Oz does not let people in if they do not pass an English test, you do not have all these non English speaking people who are complex-ridden and constantly pouting at you. And you also do not have an equivalent of Puerto Rico.
I have come across people in aus that spoke virtually no english...maybe they were here on holiday visas, I don't know. I've also come across asian women in massage parlours with poor english. Not sure what you're saying about Puerto Rico though. Does the US accept people into their country without any english-speaking ability?

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Post by abcdavid01 » February 13th, 2013, 3:14 am

Andrewww wrote:America caters to consumerism. You don't wanna stay in the house and watch TV ? Then go to the mall, eat junk food, buy shit you don't need, drive that expensive car you just bought. You want to explore nature ? Drive to the nearest resort, spend money on junk food twice as expensive, buy more shit you don't need, rent a room for $200. You'd rather spend the night in a tent ? No problem, you still have to pay for the "priviledge" of using public domain. Make sure you don't go on "private property", someone might shoot you. Hell, you can't even explore your own country because it doesn't belong to you, it belongs to the almighty dollar.

Hollywood and the media is doing a great job selling you this "product" (aka America) and making it look like a great place.

It's like that quote in Fight Club:

Tyler: Man, I see in fight club the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived. I see all this potential, and I see squandering. Goddamn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables, slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.
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Post by ladislav » February 13th, 2013, 4:21 am

By looking at the crowd walking towards you in Sydney and a crowd walking towards you in NY, you will see that the American crowd is fatter overall. The Oz is overweight by factor XX, the US by factor XXXX. Fat, fatter, fattest. Come on up and you will see.

Puerto Rico is an example how the US annexes a Latin American country which is Spanish speaking and makes them citizens and they don't want to speak English and a conflict ensues. Then, the US does not have a national language so when you apply for visas, there is no particular English requirement. The US citizenship English requirement is a joke. You just need to write a few sentences in English and you pass.

And you have huge numbers of people who are pissed at English speakers. Again, less so in Oz. I met all these friendly Oriental and Arab/Indian people speaking to me in English- amazing! In the US it is angry tense faces of minorities looking at the evil white man.

Everything is a matter of degree- more so, less so, more frequent, less frequent, more widespread, less widespread, higher percentage, lower percentage, more likely to be a certain way, less likely to be a certain way. So, it is hard to see anything is absolutes.

An OZ bogan does not usually have a gun whereas local rednecks here are armed. A Korean at a grocery store at 2 AM in Oz does not have to worry about getting shot.

As far as becoming a millionaire, rock star, etc, I have devoted decades to learning how by combining different countries we can live this kind of lifestyle. We can live like millionaires by getting jobs in Saudi and then going to cheaper countries to spend it. I remember hosting a party in Makati- it looked like Manhattan- and a party for 20 people cost me only $400. So, sort of kind of. I have chartered yachts, had a Jag, lived in a house with 6 bedrooms near the beach or condos on the beach itself and had millions in the bank ( it's just that it was not dollars, lol). Now when I look back, it looks like a millionaire's life. And it was by teaching English only.

Colonists have been doing something similar to that for a long time by moving to cheaper destinations with lots of cheap workforce. We use international price arbitrage to create a millionaire-like lifestyle. Think Robert Clive who could never be a blue blood British aristocrat so he set out to colonize India. And he lived a glorious life. We can all do something similar.

And you can be a rock star on Youtube and have your own TV show on it. Also, when I am in a karaoke in the Philippines singing in Tagalog, I am seen a bit like a rock star. So, you can have your own smaller, more modest things that approximate the American dream but they will have to involve non- American elements.

My point is - if you can't accomplish Plan A- the Hollywood version, you go for Plan B which is almost- almost, not quite but very similar to what they preach you should be, but it is not narrowly nationalistic- it is global.
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The above dream has one faulty element. It teaches that there is only one country- America and in it all your dreams can come true. But in some ways they are right - they can come true but you will have to combine America with other countries. Or any 1st world country with a couple of others. My formula of US education- Saudi money- SE Asian girls and fun is even better than what the teach in Hollywood- much more varied and has so many more angles to it. Many powers that be are very international and live lives with the whole Earth being their garden on Eden. Multinational companies run the world. We can be them-lite.
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Re: Is America a soul-destroying place?

Post by Ghost » February 13th, 2013, 4:53 am

clowny wrote:Here in australia, there is no culture. Everything is boring, bland and business-like. The people have no passion and no soul. We live just to work and pay taxes. There is no community, no sense of belonging. Nothing to unite people. There is an anti-male vibe everywhere you go. You can't escape it. On television and radio we are bombarded with feminist propaganda, demonising men and portraying us as barbarians who just want to rape and assault women. The people here spend all their time after dark either at the pub, or locked away in their houses watching television. The mainstream media over here is a giant brainwashing system. The women here are pig sluts, corrupted by feminism. They are not nurturing or feminine. There is no hope for this place. There is no redemption, no salvation.

Is it the same feeling in america?
It's hard for me to imagine Austrailia being worse culturally and socially or even on par with the U.S. I guess behind that friendly, jovial accent there is a cultural darkness there as well. I think prostitution is legal there, correct? Well, there's one thing going for it that may place it a bit higher for men than the U.S.
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Post by sfexcellence » February 13th, 2013, 5:13 am

Canada is a soul-crushing country, period. I've been from coast to coast in this country, Atlantic to Pacific, and have seen nothing but a primitive dumbed-down society, with primitive unrefined people and behaviors, no community, no sense of belonging (only for the soul-crushers is there community and sense of belonging), massive spiritual poverty and destitution that is suffocating, a country steeped in the superstition of materialism, consumerism, people being spectators and not participating, mass social isolation and loneliness, and anti-community and anti-foreigner sentiments. The air here is full of ego-centrism, everyone is out for themselves and no one else, the population act like wild animals, discrimination and attitudes that were supposedly stuff of decades past very much at the surface, and the few who are well-educated, civil, well-mannered and caring seen by the many as the primary threat and meat to be eaten.

There is an emptiness here, a massive emptiness in people here, they are emotionally insecure to the nth degree, needy, desperate, and full of nothing but hate, violence and psychopathic tendencies. The animals/people here are full of this emotional insecurity that will never go away, and they view the few who are caring and kind as the ultimate threat, meat to be eaten, so they try to take confidence and positive emotion from you, and feel good if they can, only to have it gone at the presence of an emotionally secure and kind person. A truly vicious circle, and there is no exit for these empty souls at all, they are the modern 1st world slaves, and they don't care about themselves.

The people don't care about themselves, the politicians and bureaucrats don't care about the people, and the corporations don't care about anyone, only caring about pursuing the supposedly almighty dollar. The politicians see the apathy and division from the people as weakness, and seek therefore to take advantage of the people, working with the corporations to pursue their own destructive agenda, all common knowledge to us of course. I feel depressed, miserable and lonely here, with no life, no friends, no relationships and no future for me here.

From everything that I've seen over the years, I strongly believe that as it stands right now the general population doesn't have the capacity to care about itself and effect meaningful change, true social, political and economic justice. I believe that things have to get far far far worse for people to actually care, but if you look at the Vancouver hockey riots a little while back, nobody here remembers it, nobody cares about it, and the perpetrators got away with only a slap on the wrist. The society promotes the behavior that was seen during the riots, and the politicians promote social, economic and political inequality and injustice. So even if things get really bad, like civil war bad, only a select few, a minority of people will ever respond and stand up to achieve justice. North American societies respond with thirst for violence and hate when disaster strikes, like Hurricanes Sandy and Katrina, and the govt's respond with violence and hate towards the people.

The worst part however, is that the few good people that are here do nothing about all this. The way that most Canadians think, act and behave is quite primitive and speaks of a primitive and negativity-oriented culture. I second all the comments made, Canada is just like the rest of the anglosphere, a sea of negativity and soul-crushing societies.

The only solution that exists for me, is to leave NA as soon as possible, to settle down in areas outside the anglosphere and build a future for myself outside North America. I am paying off the repatriation loan that I have from the federal govt and will be getting a 10 year ePassport in July, after which I will purchase tickets to spend time in Europe (Switzerland) this year, and then more of continental Europe next year, plus buying silver and building a network of friends in Europe for when the extremely bad times come here in NA, as well as finding a women to marry, be that in Europe or elsewhere. I am also working on my business options, they are limited and very few but possible for success.

What I recommend, is to get out NOW, there will not be a mass re-awakening and revolt, get out now while you still can, and establish yourself outside the anglosphere, a future and community, relationships and basic needs met.

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Post by Globus » February 13th, 2013, 6:14 am

sfexcellence wrote:Canada is a soul-crushing country, period. I've been from coast to coast in this country, Atlantic to Pacific, and have seen nothing but a primitive dumbed-down society, with primitive unrefined people and behaviors, no community, no sense of belonging (only for the soul-crushers is there community and sense of belonging), massive spiritual poverty and destitution that is suffocating, a country steeped in the superstition of materialism, consumerism, people being spectators and not participating, mass social isolation and loneliness, and anti-community and anti-foreigner sentiments. The air here is full of ego-centrism, everyone is out for themselves and no one else, the population act like wild animals, discrimination and attitudes that were supposedly stuff of decades past very much at the surface, and the few who are well-educated, civil, well-mannered and caring seen by the many as the primary threat and meat to be eaten.

There is an emptiness here, a massive emptiness in people here, they are emotionally insecure to the nth degree, needy, desperate, and full of nothing but hate, violence and psychopathic tendencies. The animals/people here are full of this emotional insecurity that will never go away, and they view the few who are caring and kind as the ultimate threat, meat to be eaten, so they try to take confidence and positive emotion from you, and feel good if they can, only to have it gone at the presence of an emotionally secure and kind person. A truly vicious circle, and there is no exit for these empty souls at all, they are the modern 1st world slaves, and they don't care about themselves.

The people don't care about themselves, the politicians and bureaucrats don't care about the people, and the corporations don't care about anyone, only caring about pursuing the supposedly almighty dollar. The politicians see the apathy and division from the people as weakness, and seek therefore to take advantage of the people, working with the corporations to pursue their own destructive agenda, all common knowledge to us of course. I feel depressed, miserable and lonely here, with no life, no friends, no relationships and no future for me here.

From everything that I've seen over the years, I strongly believe that as it stands right now the general population doesn't have the capacity to care about itself and effect meaningful change, true social, political and economic justice. I believe that things have to get far far far worse for people to actually care, but if you look at the Vancouver hockey riots a little while back, nobody here remembers it, nobody cares about it, and the perpetrators got away with only a slap on the wrist. The society promotes the behavior that was seen during the riots, and the politicians promote social, economic and political inequality and injustice. So even if things get really bad, like civil war bad, only a select few, a minority of people will ever respond and stand up to achieve justice. North American societies respond with thirst for violence and hate when disaster strikes, like Hurricanes Sandy and Katrina, and the govt's respond with violence and hate towards the people.

The worst part however, is that the few good people that are here do nothing about all this. The way that most Canadians think, act and behave is quite primitive and speaks of a primitive and negativity-oriented culture. I second all the comments made, Canada is just like the rest of the anglosphere, a sea of negativity and soul-crushing societies.

The only solution that exists for me, is to leave NA as soon as possible, to settle down in areas outside the anglosphere and build a future for myself outside North America. I am paying off the repatriation loan that I have from the federal govt and will be getting a 10 year ePassport in July, after which I will purchase tickets to spend time in Europe (Switzerland) this year, and then more of continental Europe next year, plus buying silver and building a network of friends in Europe for when the extremely bad times come here in NA, as well as finding a women to marry, be that in Europe or elsewhere. I am also working on my business options, they are limited and very few but possible for success.

What I recommend, is to get out NOW, there will not be a mass re-awakening and revolt, get out now while you still can, and establish yourself outside the anglosphere, a future and community, relationships and basic needs met.
Well said. I live in Canada too (about 100km west of Toronto) and I hate this country and want to get out ASAP. Here are my reasons on why this country sucks and is soul crushing.

1. Terrible weather for most of the year everywhere around the country. Even though Canada is the 2nd largest country in the world 90% of its population lives 100km from the US border because it is unlivable elsewhere.

2. Terrible women that are man hating, ugly, dress bad, radical feminists, cliquish, business and cold like, only care about money and career, hyper independent, glued to smartphones, only want the top 10% of men.

3. Bad food that is genetically modified and very unhealthy. How can a country be good if the food is unhelathy.

4. No culture. Canada is the only country in the world I can think of now that doesn't have any culture. Even though Canada is very multicultural different races live socially segregated. For example Indians, Muslims, Asians, English, French all hate and segregate each other so you only get to see the negative side of every culture. Let's say you are from a small country and there aren't a lot of people from your country here, your life will be very painful especially if you are a young single male since you will have to remain dateless and friendless for a very long time. Because of this Canada is very fragmented and rapidly declining in quality of life. And yet despite this Canada continues to bring in more immigrants thus making the problems worse and worse. No country in the world has survived without a dominant culture that unites people and Canada will be no different. Add radical feminism, political correctness, multiculturalism, useless consumerism and you will get a soul crushing society that is very fragmented and bound to fail miserably sooner or later.

5. Cant go anywhere without a car since distances in cities are huge and the weather is bad. Canada and America are the only places in the world I can think of where you can't go anywhere without a car.

And yet despite all this it still considered one of the best countries to live in :shock: . But don't worry Canada will soon get exposed for the scam it really is.

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Post by Globus » February 13th, 2013, 6:18 am

One more thing to add to this list is the fact that life in Canada is very expensive. From high taxes to gas and electricity bills, to house and car mortgages, to car insurance life here is outrageously expensive compared to other countries.

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Post by drealm » February 13th, 2013, 7:17 am

P4p is legal in Australia and it's closer to Asia. 2 points.
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Post by E_Irizarry » February 14th, 2013, 12:57 am

ladislav wrote:....A Korean at a grocery store at 2 AM in Oz does not have to worry about getting shot.
The w.hores at Kings' Cross were scary more than anything I had seen in New South Wales when I had gone there in 2007.
The jellyfish phenomenon is no f.ucking joke in Oz. I don't swim after dusk nor three hours after dawn. I had seen a
chick get p.issed on just to defuse the acidity in the jellyfish tentacle stings.
ladislav wrote: As far as becoming a millionaire, rock star, etc, I have devoted decades to learning how by combining different countries we can live this kind of lifestyle. We can live like millionaires by getting jobs in Saudi and then going to cheaper countries to spend it. I remember hosting a party in Makati- it looked like Manhattan- and a party for 20 people cost me only $400. So, sort of kind of. I have chartered yachts, had a Jag, lived in a house with 6 bedrooms near the beach or condos on the beach itself and had millions in the bank ( it's just that it was not dollars, lol). Now when I look back, it looks like a millionaire's life. And it was by teaching English only.
I had was doing alright in Chile teaching English...and literally every other to every three nights I would go the low-budget w.horehouse in the city (that's where I f.ucked the hottest amazonianly-tall Afro-Colombianas and one Afro-Dominicana that was the girlfriend of a local Chilean pimp, drug-cartel dealer and owner of another w.horehouse in town. He almost killed me and my boy José at another w.horehouse (which was the one that the Chilean dude owns) - true story - LOL).

The b.itch was bad-as-hell (just stupendously hawt) and she had the hawts for me - especially after I put it on her!! She was hawt for a dark-brown Afro-Dominican woman. That's why I almost got killed: because she was high as a kite just blurting (in Spanish of course) how good in bed (it was a VIP room in the non-affiliated w.horehouse she worked at) I was to her IN FRONT OF THE PIMP DEALER and my bilingual boy José!! When at her job, I lickED her a.ss and ate her p.ussy like an overzealous lover. Every time that I looked up...as much as a in-shape "Black" woman she looked like, she had the hygiene of the cleanest living object on Earth! P.ussy smelled like clean-running mountainside water....tasted like baked chicken. Hell it even sounded like it when gnawing into it...flight simulator zom-bee! :-)

I went to the low-budget w.horehouse because they had the curviest women, whom were considered "fat" for Chilean men's taste. That was the only w.horehouse that Afro-Colombiana illegal immigrants could work under the table. Due to the inflation of Colombia, it's driving quite a few Afro-Colombians out of their home country.

Chilean women have no shape once you go north of Santiago; that's the town I had instructed English in. That Mapuche Indian mixed with some Andes-Peruvian Indian makes an abominating combination!
ladislav wrote: And you can be a rock star on Youtube and have your own TV show on it. Also, when I am in a karaoke in the Philippines singing in Tagalog, I am seen a bit like a rock star. So, you can have your own smaller, more modest things that approximate the American dream but they will have to involve non- American elements.
Oh hell to the yeah, buddy! Karaoke is so big in Asia period, but Filipinos go ga-ga for it when stateside people sing it there! Why do you think Boyz II Men, Brian McKnight, Keith Martin among others tour the Philippines annually?!!??? They lovvvvvvvvvvvvve American R&B!

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