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Have any of you noticed that besides the depressing vibe in America, there is an empty, meaningless one too? It feels like everything is empty and meaningless at the core, underneath the hype, glitz and commercialism. Doesn't it deflate you?

I would imagine that many feel it, especially if they are sensitive, deep, soulful, romantic or passionate. But people simply try to distract themselves to avoid facing it. And of course, no one dares talk about it lest they look like a loser.

What do you all think causes the depressing, empty, meaningless vibe in America? Is it psychological, spiritual, or metaphysical?
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celery2010 wrote: Yeah, but you are in Vegas. When people are on vacation, they are open, just like when they are abroad. Of course, lots of people willl be in their own cliques, but being in Vegas (on the Strip, that is, not out in Henderson), there is a never ending supply of people there on vacation who are drunk and willing to talk to strangers.

Plus there are a ton of people who have jobs geared toward socializing, waitresses, dancers, performers, bartenders, etc. Plus there are new people who move to Vegas every single week. Vegas is NOT your typical American city, not by a long stretch.
That's all hype and not reality. The only people that may talk to you here are old fat guys. Not women in sexy dresses. No way. I've seen drunk girls. But they still only talked to their friends and not to strangers. People are not open here. That's a myth. If you want, come here and you will see.

Even the locals that I know here do not bother to go out and meet people, because not only are people not friendly here, but Vegas attracts the lowest quality people as well. Even MarkLambo won't go out and try to meet people, yet he's been here for years. The vibe here is definitely not conducive to meeting people.

Abroad, the Americans are friendlier. I talked to many American tourists and travelers in Russia and they were easy to talk to, because they are in a real friendly and social culture and environment in Russia. But Vegas is nothing like that. Vegas is not like abroad at all.

I guess you can talk to drunk men if you want. But who wants to do that? They would just bullshit and waste your time. The sexy young girls here in heels and mini-skirts aren't going to talk to you. They hate talking to strangers, even if they are on the job. They are about as friendly as the girls in LA as. Vegas and LA have very similar vibes.

You don't seem to be living in reality. Come here and you are in for a shock.

The waitresses here are only nice for their job. Their job is to bring you drinks and get tips. Not to get to know you or socialize with you. The older worn out hags might be friendly, but not the young sexy cocktail waitresses. No way. If a girl is young and hot here, even if she's in customer service, she will not talk much. Even if you walk up to her and ask where the restroom is, she will just point the way without even making eye contact. Even hot girls here that work in customer service aren't friendly. They consider it beneath them to talk to strangers, even when they are on the job.

Remember, they aren't in Vegas to socialize. They are there to make money. All talk is business and professional.

Vegas is not for single guys. It's for couples.
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Maverick wrote:
Winston wrote:
How is it good for one night stands? Can you give me step by step directions on getting one night stands here that I can follow to the letter? lol

If you can do that, and it really works, I'll pay you. Otherwise, that's just a myth.
Well, like I said, it's not much different than the normal nightlife scene, but girls have a vacation mentality and hooking up in Vegas is almost encouraged by the media ("What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas").

I don't have a magic code to get laid. I'm a friendly guy and I talk to a lot of people, including girls. One girl sticks, then I just hang out with them for the night and hook up with them. Nothing crazy.

Sometimes, they're dtf almost immediately. I just take the cues and roll with it.
Where exactly do you go to get one night stands? lol
Well, in Vegas, I stayed at the MGM Grand. I just hung out in the bar below it, the Cosmopolitan, and walked around the strip.
Well I did meet one hot Vietnamese American girl at a sandwich shop in Planet Hollywood. She talked me for a long time and was ok with me flirting with her. But every time I asked her to go somewhere with me, she kept saying that she had a boyfriend. Then I told her, "That's ok. He won't know. Remember that what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas." She replied, "But I want to be loyal to my boyfriend."

I guess that cliche didn't work on her. So it wasn't as easy as you say.

I also met some foreign girls on the strip too. But none of them wanted to drink. They only wanted to take pictures of the strip and wake up the next day to go to the Grand Canyon. They weren't looking for ONS.

Also, Steve R and his brother went out almost every night in Vegas all summer long. They could not score at all on the strip. Every girl ignored them and gave them the cold shoulder. And his brother is a good looking guy too. I didn't even bother after a while, since I don't like to waste energy and time with no result.

How do you explain that? What can you do? I don't see that it's easy to get ONS at all. The only ONS I see are the words in your post.

I've never had a ONS in America, unless it was with prostitutes. You say it's doable, but I've yet to experience it even once.

If I fail 10,000 times, you can't expect me to be enthusiastic about trying for the 10,001th time. Be realistic.

Like I said, in America, every girl claims to have a boyfriend or makes excuses. You can't get a date or sex just by asking for it. What's the solution? I've been asking this since 1992. No one has any real answers. It's a no-win situation.
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Winston wrote:I've never had a ONS in America, unless it was with hoes. You say it's doable, but I've yet to experience it even once.

If I fail 10,000 times, you can't expect me to be enthusiastic about trying for the 10,001th time. Be realistic.

Like I said, in America, every girl claims to have a boyfriend or makes excuses. You can't get a date or sex just by asking for it. What's the solution? I've been asking this since 1992. No one has any real answers. It's a no-win situation.
ONS are very rare in America, I have never had one neither has any guy I know of. They are pretty much a myth in the US, most guys who say they have had a ONS are either exaggerating or lying.

Maybe getting a ONS with a fat chick or ugly or older woman is somewhat doable but doing it with a young hot woman is almost impossible. I would like to go out with a guy who claims to get ONS on a Friday or Saturday night to bars and clubs to see how if he can actually do it.

Talk is cheap, I want to see a guy actually be able to pull a ONS for myself!
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Winston wrote: Well I did meet one hot Vietnamese American girl at a sandwich shop in Planet Hollywood. She talked me for a long time and was ok with me flirting with her. But every time I asked her to go somewhere with me, she kept saying that she had a boyfriend. Then I told her, "That's ok. He won't know. Remember that what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas." She replied, "But I want to be loyal to my boyfriend."

I guess that cliche didn't work on her. So it wasn't as easy as you say.
Bro, not every girl you talk to will sleep with you.

In many cases, there is a bit of game involved if you want to bed the girl.

I also met some foreign girls on the strip too. But none of them wanted to drink. They only wanted to take pictures of the strip and wake up the next day to go to the Grand Canyon. They weren't looking for ONS.
Again, not every girl is looking for a one night stand.
Also, Steve R and his brother went out almost every night in Vegas all summer long. They could not score at all on the strip. Every girl ignored them and gave them the cold shoulder. And his brother is a good looking guy too. I didn't even bother after a while, since I don't like to waste energy and time with no result.
Just because the guy is good looking doesn't mean he knows how to talk to women. Looks are overrated in the US....and especially on this forum.
How do you explain that? What can you do? I don't see that it's easy to get ONS at all. The only ONS I see are the words in your post.
Other guys have talked about it here too. Also, I have had TONS of friends over the years that have had one night stands. Definitely doable. Sorry that you have not experienced this.
I've never had a ONS in America, unless it was with hoes. You say it's doable, but I've yet to experience it even once.
Dude, maybe there's just something about you that's off-putting to women here. I don't know because I don't know you. But I've noticed that any guy that can't get laid at all in the US either doesn't talk to women at all, has confidence issues, or has something seriously wrong with them internally (personality disorder, mental disorder, extremely negative attitude, etc).
If I fail 10,000 times, you can't expect me to be enthusiastic about trying for the 10,001th time. Be realistic.
I don't really expect (or care, for that matter) anything from you. Do what you want.
Like I said, in America, every girl claims to have a boyfriend or makes excuses. You can't get a date or sex just by asking for it. What's the solution? I've been asking this since 1992. No one has any real answers. It's a no-win situation.
Every girl definitely does not do this. I've been asking since I started dating (2005ish) and have had a reasonable amount of success.

People do have real answers, but you and many guys on this forum just don't want to hear them.

Either way, just overseas. This is your site, remember? It's about being Happier Abroad. If you want to learn how to get good with AW, go to a PUA forum (though it will take a bit of time and experience to get through the BS and recognize the good stuff on those sites).
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If I get married and have children, I honestly will have second thoughts about raising them here. People here lack soul to put it simply. That is why they get a rush from climbing Mt Everest even though they know that 1 in 4 people end up dying on that mountain. Very sad indeed.

North America was a land inhabited by natives..until the Europeans came, slowly killed them and brought in slaves to make themselves rich. How can a country with such shady beginnings develop healthily down the road?

To answer OPs question, I think the urban sprawl is a big factor. There is something to be said about not having to drive 20 minutes to the grocery store. Walking anywhere is frowned upon (part of why so many people are fat) and there is a lot of isolation. Children are sent to schools that look and feel like prisons (read up on school to prison pipeline. No wonder so many women seem to like thugs) and the materialism is overwhelming. All malls here are the same. I'd figure if you are going to be materialistic...be unique about it. But of course, branded products are based on formulas to sell and make profit. When going to high school here, I noticed that even the "popular" white kids with money had no real friends. They had a lot of associates that wore the same clothing and participated in the same hobbies, but connection was definitely lacking. To put it simply, there is no real culture here.
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I've never had a ONS in America, unless it was with hoes. You say it's doable, but I've yet to experience it even once.

If I fail 10,000 times, you can't expect me to be enthusiastic about trying for the 10,001th time. Be realistic.

Like I said, in America, every girl claims to have a boyfriend or makes excuses. You can't get a date or sex just by asking for it. What's the solution? I've been asking this since 1992. No one has any real answers. It's a no-win situation.
I'm confused by the first sentence. Have you had a ONS or not? You can't expect a woman looking for a committed relationship to be willing to have a ONS with any guy that is interested in it.

Tip: Women say that they have a boyfriend because 1. They do actually have a boyfriend and value them or 2. They are not interested in you for whatever reason. (mostly they are not the ONS type or they are just not attracted to you). Would you rather she be a bitch about not wanting you?

Since you have been asking since 1992 and haven't run into any luck, I suggest you try to get in the pants of 10 women. If they all reject you, ask them for a brutally honest reason about why they are not interested in you. Take notes and you will have your answers.
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Have you noticed that even though America has a depressing, meaningless, artificial vibe, that it also feels like it is PUSHING you to become a workhorse on the treadmill all the time? It's like there is an invisible whip in America that is driving you to be a slave.

It's as if America is trying to turn you mechanical. The conspiracy researcher Michael Tsarion said that even gyms reflect this. The weight machines and treadmills in the gyms are there to tell you that exercise and fitness is mechanical in nature, just like life is. It's part of the Illuminati's agenda to turn people mechanical, so they can implement their transhumanist agenda of merging man and machine. Really scary.

Also, have any of you noticed that underneath the fake smiles and affluence of American life, there is something very EVIL underneath it all? Something which sucks out people's souls, as if society is designed for entities to suck out the souls of humans? It's like there is something evil underneath the surface, but you can't see it unless you peel off many layers of reality first. It lies beneath the fake smiles, fake people and excess materialism. It's hard to put into words. I think everyone can feel that there is something evil in America that is destroying their souls, but it's hard to put into words.

Know what I mean?
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jboy wrote:Didn't notice it growing up but after I spent some time outside US, going back feels like going back to a cage after experiencing freedom. I still hold citizenship but no way will I live again in the US unless everywhere else becomes a wasteland.

I much prefer Mexico and Philippines as it caters more to my extroverted personality and latino soul and tastes.
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The truth is, the modern American environment feels very depressing, empty and meaningless. There's nothing to do. Everything feels super isolated and disconnected. Everyone seems cold and distant. There's no human connection or camaraderie at all. You can't go out and connect with people, meet people, seek love, romance, or pursue girls. All you're allowed to do is work and consume, and fill your void with stupid CONSUMERISM only, which does NOT fill my void! America is so damn STUPID and asinine to assume that consumerism can fill everyone's void! Sheesh. What an imbecilic assumption! Where's the human connection America?! Come on.

America's totally mechanistic lifeless system seems designed to crush your soul and spirit. How sad and terrible. Yet no one dares to talk about this because you will look like a loser if you do. Compared to such a soulless society, a conscious human being with a real soul is better off living with the Native Americans in the frontier wilderness of the 1800's, like John Dunbar did in the epic movie "Dances with Wolves" starring Kevin Costner. At least there, one can bond with others everyday in a close-knit community around the campfire at night, never experiencing social disconnection or isolation.
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Winston it's interesting that you mention that no one likes to talk about this kind of atmosphere because what happens is that you will get ostracized from everyone else even though you raise some perfectly legitimate points.
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Winston wrote:Like I said, in America, every girl claims to have a boyfriend or makes excuses. You can't get a date or sex just by asking for it. What's the solution? I've been asking this since 1992. No one has any real answers. It's a no-win situation.
A lot of women in the US either have boyfriends or if they are available, they are single mothers! :shock:

I have read blogs online where guys who have lived in the US and then traveled abroad said America is the most difficult country to get laid in!

No wonder why America is nicked named, "The United Celibate States of America." :lol:
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America is the most difficult country to get laid in unless you dramatically lower your standards. This is the key. A guy can have fun with a single mother and/or an extremely unattractive female. Sometimes, I think I should do it to actually not have a huge dry spell but I just can not bring myself to be involved with someone who has a child and then myself realizing that I just do not want to raise (or be forced to adopt another person's child).

It is not always rosey abroad either. As some countries have soulless culture similar to the US. Still, most of my relationships have been with women who lived in different cultures and were not hung up on mindgames and having scowls on their faces when you are just doing a simple greeting.
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I've never had a ONS in America, unless it was with hoes. You say it's doable, but I've yet to experience it even once.

If I fail 10,000 times, you can't expect me to be enthusiastic about trying for the 10,001th time. Be realistic.

Like I said, in America, every girl claims to have a boyfriend or makes excuses. You can't get a date or sex just by asking for it. What's the solution? I've been asking this since 1992. No one has any real answers. It's a no-win situation.
I'm confused by the first sentence. Have you had a ONS or not? You can't expect a woman looking for a committed relationship to be willing to have a ONS with any guy that is interested in it.

Tip: Women say that they have a boyfriend because 1. They do actually have a boyfriend and value them or 2. They are not interested in you for whatever reason. (mostly they are not the ONS type or they are just not attracted to you). Would you rather she be a bitch about not wanting you?

Since you have been asking since 1992 and haven't run into any luck, I suggest you try to get in the pants of 10 women. If they all reject you, ask them for a brutally honest reason about why they are not interested in you. Take notes and you will have your answers.
What are you confused about? When I say ONS, I mean the stereotypical thing where you take a girl home from a bar or nightclub and have sex and wake up together in bed the next morning. It happens a lot on TV. But it's not easy to get in real life at all. What's funny is that people who have ONS from bars and clubs usually wake up in bed with the woman without being in any kind of cuddling position. lol

We all know why women say they have a bf. It's common knowledge around here. Not a tip.

Yes I've asked many women who rejected me as to why. They all said it was either because they had a boyfriend, or that I wasn't their type, or that they weren't looking for a relationship right now, or that "because I just like you as a friend". We've all heard those rejection lines before. They don't tell you much.
Maverick wrote: Dude, maybe there's just something about you that's off-putting to women here. I don't know because I don't know you. But I've noticed that any guy that can't get laid at all in the US either doesn't talk to women at all, has confidence issues, or has something seriously wrong with them internally (personality disorder, mental disorder, extremely negative attitude, etc).
Dude, what are you smoking? Just because a guy doesn't get any ONS doesn't mean he must have personality defects. That presupposes that any normal guy can get ONS in the US. We all know it isn't that easy. Only in the movies it is. Are you being honest or are you another BSer?

More than half the American guys I know BS.

I've had girlfriends in the US, yeah. I never said I didn't. I said I never had the experience where a girls from a bar or club goes home with me and sleeps with me and wakes up with me the next day. I don't do well in clubs. I can't dance and those type of girls don't like me. The type of girls that like me are the ones that are down to earth, have a good heart, and see good qualities in me. The shallow girls in clubs never go for me. Clubs is all about looks and dancing ability.

In your list of personality defects, you forget the MOST LIKELY and MOST COMMON reason why a guy can't get laid in the US:

He is not attractive to the women he likes. He is not "her type" in other words.

It's not due to personality defects. Why are you dishing out PUA talk?

Everyone has personality flaws sure. But I've always been a good talker and relate to women well, when they are somewhat down to earth and friendly that is. I relate to women better than most guys do.

Why do you think a number of women have told me, "Winston, I feel like I can talk to you about anything. It's like you're my best girlfriend." I wasn't sure how to take that though. But it seemed like they were saying that I seemed like a girl in a man's body. Girls have told me that I'm a good talker too. When I vibe with someone and am in conversation with them, I'm very good at talking to them. I know what girls want to hear and I know how to cheer girls up too.

I'm not the type of guy who is given a chance and then says something stupid and screws everything up. Come on now. That only happens in comedy movies and sitcoms. I'm not the type of guy who shoots myself in the foot.

The problem is that I'm not sexually attractive to AW, and white women in general. That's been established here long ago. And that's the obvious problem here. How can you miss that dude? Are you full of PUA shit or something? lol (no offense)

A chick may connect with you very well. She may even have a lot in common with you. But if she's not physically attracted to you, and does not feel "the energy" with you, then you aren't her type and she will friend zone you and your sexual desires will not be validated or fulfilled.

At that point, the only way you can get laid is to pay an escort at $200 an hour, and take some risk, or get out of America.

Anyway, it doesn't matter how skillful you are in communication or how articulate you are. If an AW doesn't click with you, she will put out negative vibes or rejection. You will see a look of disgust on her face. To them, it's all or nothing. AW do not enjoy connecting with men just for the sake of connecting with others. If they don't dig you, nothing you say or do matters. You can do all the right things and say all the right things, but if it's the wrong person, then it's all futile. Women are not like machines that you can use formulas or techniques to make them like you. Any guy who thinks they are has no real life experience with women. Either that, or he's trying to sell you something, like PUA garbage.

There is no formula for love ok? Love is magical and mysterious and does not follow any linear logic or formula. Looks and money can only go so far. They do not create true love. Any wise person can tell you this. Only men who no experience or who are totally left brained think that everything in the universe, including love and romance, can fit into a formula. Guys like that are out of touch with reality.
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Wow, Winston! I just figured it out: you are a SNIOP -- Susceptible to the Negative Influence of Other People.

You admit you don't have confidence in yourself. Therefore, when someone else rejects you, you crash, emotionally.
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