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Re: Why is work a religion in America and you are expected to agree as if it were natural?!

Post by Winston » August 2nd, 2018, 7:59 am

You know one thing that really pisses me off about america is that the system considers that your life has no purpose or meaning unless you are serving a corporation or government agency with your whole life and willing to die for it if necessary. Dying for your job or for the government (aka public service) is considered an honor or virtue. Isnt that sickening?

The thing is you cant just work for a paycheck. They expect you to live to work literally and give your heart, mind and soul for your job and make it the most important thing in the universe. And even sacrificing your life for your job if necessary. They show that on TV too as a good thing. And on TV everyone acts like they dont want a vacation from their job and dont know how to take one, as though that were normal.

Even on star trek and the x files, everyone is a workaholic that doesnt want any vacation time too. Is that insane or what? Even in the star trek universe where money doesnt exist and no one has to pay bills, everyone is still a workaholic willing to risk their lives to serve the federation and die for it if necessary. Lol. As if that were a good thing. Wtf?!

In star trek the next generation when the enterprise takes shore leave, commander riker usually says "im not good at organizing my vacation time. Something usually comes up to cut my shore leave short." As if he prefers no shore leave and prefers to work 24/7. Lol. Wtf? Why does everyone on TV say that? Is that normal to want to work 24/7? Especially in the star trek universe where money doesnt exist and people dont need to pay bills? Lol. Why would anyone be a workaholic in a universe where money is no longer used? That makes no sense. Whats their incentive to become a slave to the federation and die for it if necessary and risk their life everyday? Because they got nothing better to do? I would be exploring the universe or playing around in the holodeck. In a world without scarcity who would need to work or risk their life? Lol. Totally ridiculous.

And on the tv show x files, mulder and scully are always reluctant to take any vacation. And when they do they look for excuses to cut it short and go back to work. lol. Is that what a normal person does? Why would i want to do that? Because everyone else does that? Im confused.

The biggest hypocrisy in america is this:

1. You are told that you are a free person living in a free country in the land of the free. So you are the master of your destiny and independent and free to make your own decisions. You have unique freedoms in america that others abroad dont have. And many american soldiers died for your special freedoms.

2. However, you are required to conform to everything such as your society and culture and especially your employer and the company you work for. You are required to obey thousands of rules. You are required to agree with all the teachings in your culture too. And you are required to think like everyone else too. You are expected to believe everything the government and media says, even when they lie. And you must agree with your culture and nation in all matters and support all wars your government starts. You are expected to have a herd mentality. Your life has no purpose or value unless you are serving a corporation or government or organization, and giving them your whole life, heart and soul, not just your labor. And die for your job in the line of duty if necessary. In other words, your job is your God, literally.

Also:
1. You have free speech under the first amendment. It is your right.
2. However, you must say things that are politically correct and within narrow boundaries. You cannot say anything taboo or controversial. You are free to do what we say and free to think what we tell you. You are free but you cannot act freely.

What the f**k? Is that the biggest contradiction in the world or what?! I cant believe no one questions this openly since its a huge fundamental contradiction and discrepancy.

Do you ever think about this? If so doesnt it piss you off? Its one of the biggest hypocrisies in the world and makes no logical sense. You are told you are free but you are not allowed to be free! Wtf?! (Scratching head) yet very few people realize this or complain about it. They act like this is normal and natural.

Instead i believe one should follow Joseph Campbell's advice to "follow your bliss". But that doesnt mean to do whatever makes you happy, because happiness is fleeting and comes in cycles mixed with unhappiness, just as the ying yang circle depicts. It means to do what makes you feel ALIVE and gives you a deep sense of purpose and meaning in your soul. When you do that your energy will seem limitless because you are doing what you love and are passionate about so you look forward to everyday and never dread mondays.

Thats what i believe we are meant to do. Its totally stupid to teach everyone that their life has no value unless enslaved to a corporation or organization or government or military service, where one is expected to give their all for, including their life if necessary. Thats so stupid.

After all whats the point of making a living, if you have no life or freedom to make a living for? It makes no sense and is self refuting. Why dont they come out and tell the truth, that work is enslavement, not an opportunity?

Furthermore you have to work to impress the job interviewer so that he or she can approve you to be their slave so you can give away your life in servitude. Its a totally insane and nonsensical system.

Yet chinese and americans never protest this or think about it. Except for a few hippies and bohemians here and there.

Dont you find all this insulting too? Doesnt it piss you off when you think about it?

Its also a trap when society tells you that selfishness is always bad and unselfishness is always good and a virtue. Thats a very dangerous teaching that tries to trick you into giving up your life to serve whatever corporation or organization wants to use you for their agenda. Thats the real reason society tells u to be unselfish, so you will live to serve others and allow yourself to be used by the elite or government. It sounds virtuous but in reality its a way for them to control you and make you feel obligated to your "duty".

Now I'm not saying that one should be an inconsiderate selfish bastard and be rude to others without consideration. I'm just saying that its better to be selfish and follow whatever your bliss is and do what your soul wants, as long as it makes you feel alive and gives your life meaning and purpose.

That kind of selfishness has a virtue and is authentic and being true to your soul and integrity. It's better than giving up your life to a corporation or government because you are tricked into believing that your life has no purpose or meaning unless you are serving others. Especially to serve a government that lies to you and has a nefarious agenda, and does not represent the american people and is run by a cartel of criminals with no regard for the Constitution. No way jose. So many people have lost their lives to such a deception, e.g. such as during the Vietnam war or Iraq war.

Everyone ought to read "the virtue of selfishness" by ayn rand, and "how i found freedom in an unfree world" by harry brown - specifically the chapter "the unselfishness trap" - to counteract and see through such societal brainwashing by the elite.

Sorry for the long rant. Doesn't this piss you off too when you think about it?
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Re: Why is work a religion in America and you are expected to agree as if it were natural?!

Post by traveller » April 13th, 2019, 1:02 am

Winston wrote:
January 1st, 2018, 8:28 am

So work in America is not just about paying the bills. Its also a religion, just like in Japan and Singapore. That's why American movies idolize the "do nothing but work and have no other life outside work" as the ideal norm that everyone aspires to.

So you see, living and breathing your work is normal. So is not having any life outside of your work. Work is your God in America. It's your religion. Its your LIFE as well. You are expected to give 110 percent and sacrifice your life for your job. So you see its not just about paying the bills. Its your God. A good person is seen as willing to sacrifice all for their job. And putting their job above all else. Even above God himself. And even above family.

That is what you are supposed to WANT to do in fact without even being told to want it. Lol. America sees this as the law of nature. Not just something you do to get a paycheck and pay the bills. In fact many Americans don't even want to retire. Even if they can. They prefer to work til they die. Because they wouldn't know what to do if they retired.

But the thing is, I don't understand this american mentality and cant relate to it. Because i have hundreds or hobbies and interests to distract me with that i cant even get to. Its a big mystery to me. Americans are like a different animal than me.

Its even considered noble and honorable and admirable for one to sacrifice his life and all his time and energy in servitude to the corporation that he works for. Just as it is in the US military to sacrifice your life for your country. Its considered a good thing and the right thing to do so. Isn't that sickening? Lol. I've just never been able to relate to this kind of mentality. It's strange and alien and stupid.

In America, your job is also your identity. Not just a way to make a living or earn money. Without a job, it's believed that you have nothing to live for and no purpose or function. As if you are born wanting to serve and employer or corporation. lol. It's ridiculous.

Do you guys ever think about all this too and how stupid and nonsensical it is? Especially since it's all forced and you aren't even given a choice about it? Doesn't that piss you off? Since it's all forced upon you without your consent? This is yet another way that America is NOT free.
In Northern Illinois, people are so rushed and hooked on the workaholic life that they will literally kill themselves to get to work an hour early. Every month, Chicagolanders hear of people getting hit by trains while crossing the tracks when the gates are lowered and the red lights are flashing. To them, railroad safety means nothing and has been tossed out the window years ago. Illinoisans don't want to know that it takes but 10 to 15 seconds for a Metra to pass by. To them, a Metra going 70 miles an hour is even a mile long freight train putting along at a quarter of a mile per hour. And they blow right through lowered gates even when the train is 50 feet away and closing in at 60 miles an hour. And a Metra moving at 60 miles an hour can take up to ten football fields to come to a stop after hitting the brakes. Freight trains can take up to a mile and a half to stop depending on speed after hitting the brakes.

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Re: Why is work a religion in America but you aren't given a choice about it?! That's stupid and forced!

Post by traveller » May 10th, 2019, 5:43 am

Adama wrote:
January 1st, 2018, 3:30 pm
You can give your all to your work. Then one day you can walk in and because the boss has decided that she no longer likes you, she can make up a reason to fire you on the spot over a very trivial matter. It won't matter how many holidays you sacrificed, how many late nights, or how much you've gone out of your way.
I saw that exact thing happen to a good friend of mine at Steve B Sports Café just outside Downtown Fort Myers last month!

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Re: Why is work a religion in America and you are expected to agree as if it were natural?!

Post by traveller » May 10th, 2019, 5:51 am

Winston wrote:
August 2nd, 2018, 7:59 am
You know one thing that really pisses me off about america is that the system considers that your life has no purpose or meaning unless you are serving a corporation or government agency with your whole life and willing to die for it if necessary. Dying for your job or for the government (aka public service) is considered an honor or virtue. Isnt that sickening?

The thing is you cant just work for a paycheck. They expect you to live to work literally and give your heart, mind and soul for your job and make it the most important thing in the universe. And even sacrificing your life for your job if necessary. They show that on TV too as a good thing. And on TV everyone acts like they dont want a vacation from their job and dont know how to take one, as though that were normal.

Even on star trek and the x files, everyone is a workaholic that doesnt want any vacation time too. Is that insane or what? Even in the star trek universe where money doesnt exist and no one has to pay bills, everyone is still a workaholic willing to risk their lives to serve the federation and die for it if necessary. Lol. As if that were a good thing. Wtf?!

In star trek the next generation when the enterprise takes shore leave, commander riker usually says "im not good at organizing my vacation time. Something usually comes up to cut my shore leave short." As if he prefers no shore leave and prefers to work 24/7. Lol. Wtf? Why does everyone on TV say that? Is that normal to want to work 24/7? Especially in the star trek universe where money doesnt exist and people dont need to pay bills? Lol. Why would anyone be a workaholic in a universe where money is no longer used? That makes no sense. Whats their incentive to become a slave to the federation and die for it if necessary and risk their life everyday? Because they got nothing better to do? I would be exploring the universe or playing around in the holodeck. In a world without scarcity who would need to work or risk their life? Lol. Totally ridiculous.

And on the tv show x files, mulder and scully are always reluctant to take any vacation. And when they do they look for excuses to cut it short and go back to work. lol. Is that what a normal person does? Why would i want to do that? Because everyone else does that? Im confused.

The biggest hypocrisy in america is this:

1. You are told that you are a free person living in a free country in the land of the free. So you are the master of your destiny and independent and free to make your own decisions. You have unique freedoms in america that others abroad dont have. And many american soldiers died for your special freedoms.

2. However, you are required to conform to everything such as your society and culture and especially your employer and the company you work for. You are required to obey thousands of rules. You are required to agree with all the teachings in your culture too. And you are required to think like everyone else too. You are expected to believe everything the government and media says, even when they lie. And you must agree with your culture and nation in all matters and support all wars your government starts. You are expected to have a herd mentality. Your life has no purpose or value unless you are serving a corporation or government or organization, and giving them your whole life, heart and soul, not just your labor. And die for your job in the line of duty if necessary. In other words, your job is your God, literally.

Also:
1. You have free speech under the first amendment. It is your right.
2. However, you must say things that are politically correct and within narrow boundaries. You cannot say anything taboo or controversial. You are free to do what we say and free to think what we tell you. You are free but you cannot act freely.

What the f**k? Is that the biggest contradiction in the world or what?! I cant believe no one questions this openly since its a huge fundamental contradiction and discrepancy.

Do you ever think about this? If so doesnt it piss you off? Its one of the biggest hypocrisies in the world and makes no logical sense. You are told you are free but you are not allowed to be free! Wtf?! (Scratching head) yet very few people realize this or complain about it. They act like this is normal and natural.

Instead i believe one should follow Joseph Campbell's advice to "follow your bliss". But that doesnt mean to do whatever makes you happy, because happiness is fleeting and comes in cycles mixed with unhappiness, just as the ying yang circle depicts. It means to do what makes you feel ALIVE and gives you a deep sense of purpose and meaning in your soul. When you do that your energy will seem limitless because you are doing what you love and are passionate about so you look forward to everyday and never dread mondays.

Thats what i believe we are meant to do. Its totally stupid to teach everyone that their life has no value unless enslaved to a corporation or organization or government or military service, where one is expected to give their all for, including their life if necessary. Thats so stupid.

After all whats the point of making a living, if you have no life or freedom to make a living for? It makes no sense and is self refuting. Why dont they come out and tell the truth, that work is enslavement, not an opportunity?

Furthermore you have to work to impress the job interviewer so that he or she can approve you to be their slave so you can give away your life in servitude. Its a totally insane and nonsensical system.

Yet chinese and americans never protest this or think about it. Except for a few hippies and bohemians here and there.

Dont you find all this insulting too? Doesnt it piss you off when you think about it?

Its also a trap when society tells you that selfishness is always bad and unselfishness is always good and a virtue. Thats a very dangerous teaching that tries to trick you into giving up your life to serve whatever corporation or organization wants to use you for their agenda. Thats the real reason society tells u to be unselfish, so you will live to serve others and allow yourself to be used by the elite or government. It sounds virtuous but in reality its a way for them to control you and make you feel obligated to your "duty".

Now I'm not saying that one should be an inconsiderate selfish bastard and be rude to others without consideration. I'm just saying that its better to be selfish and follow whatever your bliss is and do what your soul wants, as long as it makes you feel alive and gives your life meaning and purpose.

That kind of selfishness has a virtue and is authentic and being true to your soul and integrity. It's better than giving up your life to a corporation or government because you are tricked into believing that your life has no purpose or meaning unless you are serving others. Especially to serve a government that lies to you and has a nefarious agenda, and does not represent the american people and is run by a cartel of criminals with no regard for the Constitution. No way jose. So many people have lost their lives to such a deception, e.g. such as during the Vietnam war or Iraq war.

Everyone ought to read "the virtue of selfishness" by ayn rand, and "how i found freedom in an unfree world" by harry brown - specifically the chapter "the unselfishness trap" - to counteract and see through such societal brainwashing by the elite.

Sorry for the long rant. Doesn't this piss you off too when you think about it?
It's sad. People brainwash you into thinking you live in the "Land of the Free" and then treat you like you're in North Korea. And it is sickening when people expect you to die for your job, including blowing through a railroad crossing when the gates are down and getting hit by a train on the way to work. And obviously you are expected to obey every rule, whether right or wrong, while at work, hence the notion of "even when the boss is wrong, the boss is still right."

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