Discuss culture, living, traveling, relocating, dating or anything related to the European Countries.
you can not compare german women on vacation with the one at home. on vacation things are very different. think differen is very right. american men have some hope with their women so they do approach at least. german men have no hope left. google alice schwartzer and you will see why .
eurobrat, is this pick on me day or something? Some people don't know my avatar is my picture and I say I am black because my experience is obviously going to be different than a white guy's or an Asian guy's. I am all about perspective.
I misread information about Belgium @Think Different.
today I played some streeball with my homie and there were two asian looking girls nearby. my homie is not so much interested in rl woman so he chilled mostly by himself. anyway the two girl approached me and wanted to join us playing ball. We ended up playing barfoot the two against me. i lost 10 to 9. however you wonÂ´t see this kind of thing with german girls. the girls were raised in germany so they spoke perfect german. they smiled a lot which is veery uncommon in munich.
what i wanted to say is forget germany if your are not phx sosa
Your right, when you live in a country where women are not being hit on by guys all the time, the women will be friendlier and easier to meet because they have to be if they want to meet some guys.
When it comes to meeting women, men here in the US are VERY AGGRESSIVE at bars and clubs and of course, you have your "pickup artists" doing "day game" and asking out women left and right. This makes the women very passive when it comes to initiating anything with men. Why should she initiate anything with a guy, when she has a whole bunch of guys asking her out?
Maybe this is why women don't flirt with men in anglo-countries. They don't have to show any interest in a guy, because they are getting asked out all the time and of course if the she is using facebook or a dating website like Match.com, she is getting EVEN MORE men asking her out!
Wow, it must be great to be a female in anglo-countries, you never go long without getting some male attention and you get to be real picky about what guys you date. Only in the anglosphere can ugly girls date and marry rich, handsome men!
"When I think about the idea of getting involved with an American woman, I don't know if I should laugh .............. or vomit!"
"Trying to meet women in America is like trying to decipher Egyptian hieroglyphics."
Hmm overbearing... I dunno Direct and Honest, to a fault yes and not into admitting to mistakes either. Not sure if that's their culture or not.
Some Western men have complained about German Women and how they act, but they are in the minority. Most men speak highly of their German wives. I do find German women to be a bit harsh on several levels. Tattoos are very popular in Germany with Gen X and Gen Y women. Frankly that's a bit of a turnoff. I wondered for quite awhile if I should talk to this one German woman who has quite a few tattoos. She changed her hairstyle recently and its done wonders for her overall appearance.
She expressed interest in meeting me in person and didn't want to say much without meeting first. I assume she's been burned before.
Overall my experience with German women is mainly positive and I screwed one over that I have covered many times on here. I am sure I can find another one that committed, it will just take time.
As I have said before the middle ground for finding attractive women in Germany is quite narrow though. Most of what's "left" of the women open to relationships with non-German men, are not that cute, tend to be fat (especially those interested in Black Men, I guess that got that bogus memo we didn't get...) or have been involved with in my case African or African-American GI's and have their children.
Of course no White German man (not many in any case) will touch them with mixed children. So they are sort of forced to continue dating Black Men. You might think this is a ready made market, but its really no different than here in America. Most of these women come from lower middle class families since most of US based are located far away from most city centers now.
I've also said before, I believe its more likely you'll end up with a Polish or Russian if you ply your trade in Berlin. Most other groups are not readily accepted by Germany (ask the Turks), so what happens is that if Polish, Spanish, Asian or Slavic women do not want to date their own men, they often go looking for Africans and African-Americans, Caucasians from the UK/US and Canada. I know one German chick that loves herself some Dominican Black Men. She's not that hot but you know what happens, since when to men turn p***y down????
I recently found a German girl's profile here in LA. Where she's looking for an African-American. She dated a guy that didn't even have a car. While she says that was a drag and would rather now find somebody with a car, it just proves that most foreign are vastly more open minded than native women.
I agree that antics by AW are slowly pushing more AM into the arms of women from outside this country.
I talked to a Swiss woman the other day on the website I am on. I messaged her that I knew a German girl that lives in Zurich. She told me about Swiss women, Swiss culture and everything. She was really cool to talk to. She told me that Swiss German is different than German in Germany. I knew eventually I was going to talk to other German speaking women in Austria and Switzerland. It was only a matter of time. If Swiss women are like her then I have high hopes for the country!
About German women and how they are not attractive or only black guys get left overs: Absolute bullshit. I have talked to beautiful German women and the one I will visit is a perfect 10. The most beautiful eyes I have ever seen. I find German women attractive. They have nice bodies. They have good work ethic. The either have a degree or went to college and now have a steady job. Of course, they all have their own place. Most of them use the public transit or ride bikes, which is an A+ for me because I don't have a car or a license. I don't have to feel like shit because of that like I do in America. All the German women I have talked to have been attractive. I don't know what you guys are looking at.
My experience with German women have been the most positive out of any other group. I have talked to women from all parts of Europe and German women are my favorite and I seem to click with them better and we have a lot in common.
If I am getting left overs then I love what they left All the German women I talked to are in good shape and in good health. Many of them are 7 and above. I am fine with a 7. Not a man that is focused on looks. I am more about personality and I love German women's personalities. I am not looking for P4P or any of that shit. I want a girlfriend. Have I had hits and misses? Oh yes lol. My misses were justified.
Anyway, just my experience. Maybe because I look like 2Pac? Maybe they like my look? I consider myself to be good looking. American girls have rated me an 8.5 and above, so imagine what German women see...
Even though I do not agree with PUA, but even Roosh has said positive things about German women. He has an article written about them on his site. He doesn't like the way the look...Maybe I am just weird as hell? I just like women that are average, natural looking, plain Jane, girl down the street look.
P.S. Most of the German women I talked to on the sites I have been on have been single and have been single for YEARS. Beautiful women that have amazing personalities and everything going for them and can't find a date. Most of them do not like German men. They would rather be single than date German men.
Phoenix, I'm glad that you found a place. Happy hunting. And keep us posted if anything positive comes out of your travels.
Your personal experience will vary from others. There are many factors such as who you are, what you look like, what city/town you visit, and who happens to be there for you to meet.
I have a friend from Finland who used to be a professional weight lifter. He liked Germany because the girls there were nicer to him (than back home) and there were more pretty young girls to hit on (Germany has much bigger population than Finland). But when he went to work in Geneva, he thought the Swiss girls there were stuck up. Geneva has high concentration of wealth and perhaps expectations were higher. Had he gone to a smaller or more rural town, things may have been different. But this is just speculations on my parts, I missed an opportunity to be sent to Geneva for work years ago, opting for Singapore instead. So I'm not the expert.
Either way, if you want to find out, get on a plane to fly over there. Other people's experiences are not yours. Go out and experience it for yourself.
I have been chatting to a few swiss women also, and my experience has been the same. I have messaged a few and just about all of them replied. In contrast, about 1 in 10 women will reply from Australia if you are lucky. The other thing I noticed is just about all of them end their messages with "I look forward to hearing from you". Wow! They actually have a genuine interest in wanting to get to know a male. Australian women expect you to do all the work by woo-ing them, and making all the effort in initiating conversations. I suppose this is because they get hit on so much, that they don't even need to make an effort or take an interest.
I also noticed that even though they are all really attractive, most of them have been single for a number of years. I'm guessing this is because guys don't hit on girls so much over there like they do here.
German girls. Yeah there are many hot ones. But can you beat the german guys at home. So, you must be pretty good . Why do you guys think that german girls are waiting for some american guys who can not even speak the language? Yes, I know because they look hot . Good luck
Thanks, Simoun! I always learned that your own experiences are much better than reading, hearing or seeing someone elses. Take 10 men and place them in the Philippines, for instance. All 10 men will experience things differently. It will not all be the same.
Okay...I am talking to my good Lithuanian female friend this morning when I woke up. She told me to not move to Russia lol. She told me that she visited Germany for a week and she said the women are ugly, don't know how to dress and they don't brush their teeth or take a shower. I was like WTF? Are you serious, bro? She is happy that I am moving to Germany though. That's a plus lol. I told her I have a weird taste for women, but I am talking to her and she is almost 19 and she looks like a Barbie doll, so my tastes can't be that bad if I am talking to a girl like her. She agreed with me. Anyway...
I just like how German women look damnit!
http://www.toytowngermany.com/forum/ind ... pic=188305
haha this thread is a great laugh for all the Anglo women bitching about how they never get approached. Even the topic is titled "How to get asked out by German men" as if it didn't even enter her mind to ASK out a German man. Typical Anglo bitch.
Is she serious?!
Also check out this video someone posted of a woman approaching German men. Even the German men were turning down the attractive woman! haha.
Thanks OZGuy for this link. Here are some more interesting things women living in Germany have said (from the link above).
"The answer is simple: Germans have no "asking girls out" culture. We become friends first and avoid showing any particular interest in dating except for special way of "staring" and certain little signs of thoughtfulness from both sides. If that ends in a relationship-good, if not, we stay friends or just don't meet any longer."
"It's hopeless. Been here 5 years and have never noticed the slightest sign of interest from a German male. I can't stand them anymore. That Wir sind die Helden song is perfect: yes, the Germans flirt subtly. But it's too goddamn subtle in my opinion. I would happily ask a man out, and have done so with several Anglophones, but how much time can I put in on a stiff, awkward fart who might take years to ever expression any passion or love for me. Give me France any day."
"It's a general german culture phenomenon. Dating, flirting, asking someone out the way we are used to having is virtually non-existant here. They tend to be friendly and show no indication of wanting anything other than friendship and then, years later, out of the blue declare their undying love for you. I have several lovely single friends who after years of frustration, found love on dating sites. At least that way it's clear what people are looking for (and that they are looking) and no one has to break the ice.
If you don't want to go the dating site route, I think you're stuck with doing the asking yourself. You'll probably find the men are pleasantly surprised at your directness"
"But come to think of it, in all my years in Germany, I've only had two German boyfriends and in those two cases we were sort of thrown together."
"These days, I work from home, but in the past, I used to teach in companies. There were two men in two different companies that I was sort of interested in. With one of them, I even managed to get his e-mail address and send him an e-mail - on the pretense that I was replying to a question he'd asked. He didn't get the hint. Likewise with a guy in the walking group - he's got my name, number and e-mail address. Nothing."
Listen to what this woman from Australia said about living in Germany:
"Got the serious eye contact from a guy about three weeks ago and have been waiting ever since for him to ring me. From the comments on this thread, looks like he won't and the ball's in my court. But how do I get his number now? Boy, this is complicated...
Wow! I am really used to getting full on attention in Oz where I come from and was wondering why it's so cool here and no one has asked me out. Looks like my questions have been answered."
"Trying to meet women in America is like trying to decipher Egyptian hieroglyphics."
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