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Re: How do you get rid of a pot belly that won't go away?!

Postby HouseMD » September 29th, 2016, 2:11 am

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El_Caudillo wrote:I agree with rock. Get your health sorted first. I dont mind going in with you to get the results just to lend moral support.


Well I guess El_Caudillo could go with me too. His Chinese is pretty good, almost as good as Rock's. My parents won't let me go to Taipei alone because they worry I'll get lost or not understand the doctor. They are overprotective. lol. It's such a pain though to go there and come back. And it pains me to see so many cold soulless Taiwanese girls with hot bodies and skin but that are unapproachable and unattainable just because I didn't go to school with them. Stupid.


Why would an attractive woman that wants a husband go for a guy like you, who is largely in it just to bang and run? Women can kind of sense that.


I am not like that. I never bang em and leave em. I never said I did either. You got me mixed up with others. If a girl is my type, I always seek a relationship with her. I like female company and relationships. Especially since I'm seeking a wife too. I'm not the one who dumps my women. They usually dump me or we drift apart if we are not in the same country. Don't mischaracterize me please.


You looked quite serious with all of those bargirls in Angeles City, very husbandly indeed.

Really though, I hope you find the right one eventually. I'm asking you what you might be missing that drives a wedge between you and the women you meet? Is there any way you could be a better man, a better person? Physically, mentally, or emotionally? I believe you can, because none of us are perfect. You've just got to be honest with yourself about where and what you are lacking.
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Re: How do you get rid of a pot belly that won't go away?!

Postby Winston » September 29th, 2016, 6:55 pm

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El_Caudillo wrote:I agree with rock. Get your health sorted first. I dont mind going in with you to get the results just to lend moral support.


Well I guess El_Caudillo could go with me too. His Chinese is pretty good, almost as good as Rock's. My parents won't let me go to Taipei alone because they worry I'll get lost or not understand the doctor. They are overprotective. lol. It's such a pain though to go there and come back. And it pains me to see so many cold soulless Taiwanese girls with hot bodies and skin but that are unapproachable and unattainable just because I didn't go to school with them. Stupid.


Why would an attractive woman that wants a husband go for a guy like you, who is largely in it just to bang and run? Women can kind of sense that.


I am not like that. I never bang em and leave em. I never said I did either. You got me mixed up with others. If a girl is my type, I always seek a relationship with her. I like female company and relationships. Especially since I'm seeking a wife too. I'm not the one who dumps my women. They usually dump me or we drift apart if we are not in the same country. Don't mischaracterize me please.


You looked quite serious with all of those bargirls in Angeles City, very husbandly indeed.

Really though, I hope you find the right one eventually. I'm asking you what you might be missing that drives a wedge between you and the women you meet? Is there any way you could be a better man, a better person? Physically, mentally, or emotionally? I believe you can, because none of us are perfect. You've just got to be honest with yourself about where and what you are lacking.


Um that's an unfair example. You can't judge my marriage attitude by my behavior in a bar. Those are two different scenarios. I was just having fun and enjoying life as much as I can. After all, I'm not lucky enough to find my soulmate at 18 or 20 or even finding a good girlfriend who is compatible with me long ago. So I gotta enjoy what I can get. All the women I wanted to get serious with were psycho or incompatible. Not my fault or choice. If I had it my way, I would have settled down years ago. But you don't get to choose such things. Most of life is destiny, whether you believe it or not.

You need to judge by more fair examples. Besides, you don't know me that well.

What am I missing? I don't know. Russian women say that I don't make them feel safe and protected, because they are used to having a big macho man. Chinese women say I seem like a wanderer, not stable. Filipina women do not have any complaints about me, other than I am too flirtatious with women.

Some guys who are too deep or intellectual tend to be loners and don't get along with mainstream people, especially in strong materialistic countries. Some guys just aren't meant to be married or stable. Some guys are just unlucky and have murphy's law consistently. Etc.

I think I am just inconsistent in that my looks and my personality and self-perception just don't match up. I am a deep Euro soul in an Asian body. I have a strong spirit and personality, but a weak fragile body. I act more confident than a person of my looks is supposed to. So I seem out of whack. I am a mix of contradictions and ironies that don't match. I don't fit any "type" or stereotype. So I could never be placed as any character type in Hollywood. I just don't fit anywhere I guess. lol.

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Re: Loud snoring/Sleep apnea problem - What to do?

Postby Winston » September 29th, 2016, 7:16 pm

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I didn't know that the air pressure had dropped. Did it? Yeah there was something gloomy about this typhoon though. It was like it had some evil dark energy attached to it. Maybe it's a force created by demons or dark forces, as Adama and Starchild would say. lol. It brought bad luck too. Flooded our house due to murphy's law of leaves blocking the sinkhole.

You make 180 USD per day? Wow you are killing it. You shouldn't be concerned about losing money though. I thought you were an intellectual freethinker? You are supposed to seek knowledge and wisdom as your "soul food", not money. Why you so money hungry? lol


You are a loss to the 1700s with your demons and Murphy's Law. Yes, the Typhoon did have a negative energy, which had me in bed all day. Whether it was demons or low pressure the end result was the same. When Lawrence of Arabia explained how a telescope worked to nomadic tribesmen in Arabia, they said it was a pointless device - was the point of seeing more stars beyond the stars we can already see.

I certainly don't make 180 USD a day. We had two days off for the typhoon in Taipei. I work some days more than others, Tuesday was going to be a lucrative one, today not so much. I have lived nearly all of my adult life paycheque to paycheque and as of next Friday I don't have job at all! I don't really feel it necessary to affirm my position as an intellectual freethinker, it seems a given, if I get any further far out I'll be flying into space like and aeroplane that doesn't dip its nose travelling over a flat earth lol.

Yes certainly the English of the 18th and 19th centuries was more rich. Have you read Thomas De Quincy's 'Confessions of an English Opium Eater', the length of his sentences and depth of his vocab are a mindfuck.


Yeah and I'm a loss to the 1700's with my romantic charm too. lol.

Are you the type of person who gets down from cloudy gray skies? Like Rock does? Weather doesn't usually affect my mood, so if I get bad vibes from a storm, it's unusual. Maybe I got bad vibes from this typhoon cause it did so much property damage and caused power outages. So that made it seem spooky? lol

When you saw "low pressure" what do you mean? Do you mean less air or more air? Or compressed air?

What do telescopes have to do with this? lol. I'm sure nomadic tribes would have found a telescope useful for scouting out enemies at a distance.

Why are you quitting next Friday? Is it the end of your contract? What will you do after that? Go to Indonesia? Are you going to renew your contract? What about your apartment lease?

When you said the 18th century was rich, you meant rich in vocabulary right? Yeah I didn't know there were so many words in the English language that I never seen before, that still exist in dictionaries but are never used anymore. Funny. How come people back then had a wider range of vocabulary? Is it because without a TV, they spent all evening studying new vocabulary words? lol

Also I noticed that books in the 1700's contain very long sentences with tons of commas and hyphens, like run on sentences. Today they end sentences after 2 or 3 lines with a period to take a breather.

Btw, you might have misunderstood me earlier when I said I didn't like the air in Asia. I wasn't referring to the air in the typhoon or "low pressure". I was referring to the air quality in southern Asia in general. I've never liked it. I dislike humidity and moisture in the air. It makes me feel icky, sticky and slimy. I never feel cool and refreshed like I do with the air in the US. Do you know what I mean? The air in Asia doesn't bother you? It's nowhere as good as in New Zealand right? I'm used to really good fresh air and cool temperatures. I grew up in California where there was perfect weather most of the year.
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Re: How do you get rid of a pot belly that won't go away?!

Postby HouseMD » September 29th, 2016, 8:11 pm

All of that is garbage though. Your body is not fail and weak if you train it and nurture it properly. Your looks, too, would improve. You nurture your mind, but often on garbage- conspiracy theories, pop culture/science, pseudo-religion, and other such nonsense. You need to change if you are to be the man you are capable of becoming. You want greatness, yet live like a degenerate. You want a woman, yet act like a boy. You want health, but desecrate your body.

It's as easy as just saying, "I'm better than this. I will become everything I am capable of." And then just making a list of what must be done and doing it. It only isn't easy if you're invested in your own failure, which many people are because it is easier to accept a failure when you believe that is all you are capable of than to try and risk harming your ego should you stumble.

Don't waste your life. You only get one. Make it count.
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Re: Loud snoring/Sleep apnea problem - What to do?

Postby El_Caudillo » September 30th, 2016, 5:07 am

Yeah and I'm a loss to the 1700's with my romantic charm too. lol.

Are you the type of person who gets down from cloudy gray skies? Like Rock does? Weather doesn't usually affect my mood, so if I get bad vibes from a storm, it's unusual. Maybe I got bad vibes from this typhoon cause it did so much property damage and caused power outages. So that made it seem spooky? lol

When you saw "low pressure" what do you mean? Do you mean less air or more air? Or compressed air?

What do telescopes have to do with this? lol. I'm sure nomadic tribes would have found a telescope useful for scouting out enemies at a distance.

Why are you quitting next Friday? Is it the end of your contract? What will you do after that? Go to Indonesia? Are you going to renew your contract? What about your apartment lease?

When you said the 18th century was rich, you meant rich in vocabulary right? Yeah I didn't know there were so many words in the English language that I never seen before, that still exist in dictionaries but are never used anymore. Funny. How come people back then had a wider range of vocabulary? Is it because without a TV, they spent all evening studying new vocabulary words? lol

Also I noticed that books in the 1700's contain very long sentences with tons of commas and hyphens, like run on sentences. Today they end sentences after 2 or 3 lines with a period to take a breather.

Btw, you might have misunderstood me earlier when I said I didn't like the air in Asia. I wasn't referring to the air in the typhoon or "low pressure". I was referring to the air quality in southern Asia in general. I've never liked it. I dislike humidity and moisture in the air. It makes me feel icky, sticky and slimy. I never feel cool and refreshed like I do with the air in the US. Do you know what I mean? The air in Asia doesn't bother you? It's nowhere as good as in New Zealand right? I'm used to really good fresh air and cool temperatures. I grew up in California where there was perfect weather most of the year.


My point about the telescope is that bad vibes is a good enough explanation of what happens in a typhoon. You feel weird right? Evil vibes. Science would say it's due to a drop in pressure i.e. (I think) less air particles than usual pressing in on you. This means that you blood vessels will expand and you will feel 'weird' or in my case incapacitated with a terrible headache. But we don't need the scientific explanation to know that we feel weird. In a similar fashion a powerful telescope which tells us there are stars beyond stars seems useless to a practical nomadic people - i.e. Arabian tribesmen in WWI. The scientific explanation doesn't really serve us. Much like you with your Angeles city thing, science would say the social/sexual interactions fire off different parts of your brain and lead to serotonin production, leading to elevated mood. You say it's good vibes. I'm not sure which explanation is better...queue Dr. Chopra lol.

I'm quitting because things haven't been going great in my job. There are other jobs available in Taiwan, but I prefer to leave. My lease was only for six months so it works out well. Taiwan is OK, I've enjoyed some of the scenery and museums. I enjoy learning Chinese. But I'm surviving not thriving -- and I don't see that changing. I don't have the feeling I used to have in China that an opportunity or interesting experience is around the corner. I will go to Indonesia for two and a half weeks and then back to NZ. Likely I will pick up a blue collar job back there for a while. Having a more physical job does reap rewards for me in mind, body and spirit - in the short term anyway. I haven't given up on 'abroad' forever, but I must admit that my interest in Asia has steadily waned. The places I'm most inspired to check out in the future are Vanuatu and Portugal. I don't think either will be great for the women. Personally my luck with women peaked in my early thirties, but since I hit thirty-seven it has become a cycle of diminishing returns. Maybe things will change? Who knows. In the meantime I can plan my life around that stuff.
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Re: Loud snoring/Sleep apnea problem - What to do?

Postby Winston » September 7th, 2017, 3:18 pm

Does this simple chin strap really work in reducing snoring and sleep apnea? If so, why does it cost so much? They are charging nearly 100 dollars for it when it can be found on Ebay for one dollar! But it sounds too good to be true. What do you all think?

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Re: Loud snoring/Sleep apnea problem - What to do?

Postby HouseMD » September 7th, 2017, 4:31 pm

Winston wrote:Does this simple chin strap really work in reducing snoring and sleep apnea? If so, why does it cost so much? They are charging nearly 100 dollars for it when it can be found on Ebay for one dollar! But it sounds too good to be true. What do you all think?

https://snore-solution.com/
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Research indicates that in some patients chin straps can be an effective way of managing the airway in sleep apnea. I'm not saying what you should do one way or the other, as I'm not going to provide advice when I'm not your doctor and not a sleep specialist. However, there are also some larger studies showing no improvement with chinstrap devices. This makes it difficult to say whether they are simply not effective, whether it depends on the device, or whether it depends on the patient. At worst, it could cause further airway compromise, at best, it could help.
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Re: Loud snoring/Sleep apnea problem - What to do?

Postby Voyager1 » September 7th, 2017, 5:59 pm

Actually the price goes down to $79.97 and free shipping on their website.

I've seen those gimmicks on ebay where an item is $1 but you never really get it for that. It's the bid price probably.

This contraption looks like it might cause discomfort so the sleeper would simply take it off to get to sleep.
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Re: Loud snoring/Sleep apnea problem - What to do?

Postby Voyager1 » September 7th, 2017, 6:09 pm

Don't swimming nose plugs work the same and they are much cheaper? Have you ever tried that Winston?
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Re: Loud snoring/Sleep apnea problem - What to do?

Postby hammanta » September 9th, 2017, 8:48 pm

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I'm 27, in shape (13%bf or less), exercise 5 days a week. I believe I have sleep apnea. Past roommates have mentioned it and so has family members when I've stayed with them. I also have systolic hypertension. Losing weight isn't really an option for me as I'm not fat. I also believe I have a deviated septum. Could a deviate septum potentially be a reason for my sleep apnea? Also do you think correcting sleep apnea could lower my BP?
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Re: Loud snoring/Sleep apnea problem - What to do?

Postby Winston » September 9th, 2017, 8:55 pm

Voyager1 wrote:Actually the price goes down to $79.97 and free shipping on their website.

I've seen those gimmicks on ebay where an item is $1 but you never really get it for that. It's the bid price probably.

This contraption looks like it might cause discomfort so the sleeper would simply take it off to get to sleep.

Don't swimming nose plugs work the same and they are much cheaper? Have you ever tried that Winston?


No you can get it on Ebay for a few dollars. There is a Buy Now price for it at 2 or 3 dollars. I think I got it from Ebay before but it felt uncomfortable to wear.

Why would you want to plug up your nose? I saw some gadget online that you put into your nose, but it was in developmental stage and hasn't been released to the public yet.

I don't get the logic behind sleep apnea. How did it evolve? What evolutionary advantage did nature have to block air in your throat passage while you sleep? Shouldn't mother nature or evolution have weeded out such defects millions of years ago? lol
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Re: Loud snoring/Sleep apnea problem - What to do?

Postby HouseMD » September 9th, 2017, 9:01 pm

hammanta wrote:House MD,

I'm 27, in shape (13%bf or less), exercise 5 days a week. I believe I have sleep apnea. Past roommates have mentioned it and so has family members when I've stayed with them. I also have systolic hypertension. Losing weight isn't really an option for me as I'm not fat. I also believe I have a deviated septum. Could a deviate septum potentially be a reason for my sleep apnea? Also do you think correcting sleep apnea could lower my BP?

Sleep apnea is one possible cause of hypertension, but at your age I would be more concerned with familial primary hypertension, the most common cause of hypertension in your age group. It and sleep apnea are risk factors for cardiovascular disease and stroke, so having an evaluation for sleep apnea wouldn't be a bad idea, since your risk of complications is significantly higher with both conditions than with either alone. I would strongly recommend seeing a doctor avout the hypertension though, as, while it is most likely benign, there can be other causes of hypertension that are rare but dangerous if untreated (pheochromocytoma, PCKD, etc). This is, of course, not medical advice, but rather a recommendation to see your doctor because this is a really broad topic and you can't really be helped without a proper history and physical.
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