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Changing your thoughts/self/attitude vs. Changing your location/environment/culture

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Re: Changing your thoughts vs. Changing your location?

Post by Adama » September 9th, 2016, 11:38 pm

Ghost wrote:
Adama wrote:I will not deny though. There is more opportunity overseas and it is more plentiful, and there is great scarcity here in the states.
Quick, somebody frame this and put in on the wall before he deletes it!
Look as they hang onto every single word uttered. Make sure you memorize everything I write from now on.
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Re: Changing your thoughts vs. Changing your location?

Post by Eric » September 11th, 2016, 7:14 am

I don't know about this shit. All I know is that, thinking too much has not helped me. I felt like it was, thought it did. But didn't. In this world doing is all that matters, it's all people see.
I tried to get all metaphysical, but it did benefit me and I did gain wisdom, but it's pointless because it doesn't get you anywhere. You don't get anything from it - people walk all over you, the more open you are.

I'm too nice, that's the problem, it's always been my problem. Nice guys get nowhere - that's the truth. I wish I was happy. I wish I wasn't, didn't know how to ever not "not" be nice.
You just do it. You jus thave to do it. Changing location doesn't matter, you will always just be the same person you were - you have to change inside.


It's all frustrating. You have to do it.
Misery and happiness are only states of mind.

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Post by Ghost » September 11th, 2016, 9:42 am

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Re: Changing your thoughts vs. Changing your location?

Post by droid » September 11th, 2016, 10:46 am

Ghost wrote:
Adama wrote:
Ghost wrote:
Adama wrote:I will not deny though. There is more opportunity overseas and it is more plentiful, and there is great scarcity here in the states.
Quick, somebody frame this and put in on the wall before he deletes it!
Look as they hang onto every single word uttered. Make sure you memorize everything I write from now on.
*noted*
-Adama: Lord, why did you let me drown?

-God: What about the tree branch, the boat, and the helicopter I sent you? I also had people yelling hints on what to do, you idiot! why did you make fun of them?

-Adama: Oh...
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?

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Re: Changing your thoughts vs. Changing your location?

Post by Adama » September 11th, 2016, 1:48 pm

droid wrote:
Ghost wrote:
Adama wrote:
Ghost wrote:
Adama wrote:I will not deny though. There is more opportunity overseas and it is more plentiful, and there is great scarcity here in the states.
Quick, somebody frame this and put in on the wall before he deletes it!
Look as they hang onto every single word uttered. Make sure you memorize everything I write from now on.
*noted*
-Adama: Lord, why did you let me drown?

-God: What about the tree branch, the boat, and the helicopter I sent you? I also had people yelling hints on what to do, you idiot! why did you make fun of them?

-Adama: Oh...

Funny you should mention that. When I was around 15 I went backpacking in the mountains with a small group. We got to a place where they were going to swim across the water. I swam across but couldn't get a grip on the rock on the other side to climb out. Luckily my buddy was there to reach in and grab me. This man saved me from drowning already.

I could recount many miracles to you about my life. They're all meaningless happenstance to fools, but added together it becomes clear.

Keep mocking. It isn't me you're displeasing. There is one person who records every idle word uttered. He is the one you will have to give an accounting to.

Also, take note that as for the hints and making fun part, that applies to you, not me. I have been warning and yelling. You're the one mocking. I would bet that God may have some words for you, similar to those which you had for me. In fact, good that you mentioned that, since Proverbs chapter one basically says just that.
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Re: Changing your thoughts vs. Changing your location?

Post by Winston » October 2nd, 2016, 3:12 pm

My new video rant where I explain why LOCATION is the key to changing your life, not thoughts or attitudes.

Description:
My Happier Abroad movement is unique and revolutionary in two ways. First, it's the only self-help movement out there that focuses on changing your LOCATION rather than your thoughts and attitude like all other self-help movements advocate. Second, unlike all other critics of America, we focus on America's problems that are NOT related to government or economics, which more directly affect our lives such as:

1) The terrible dating scene for men that leaves many decent single men without romantic options for love or marriage, thus forcing many men to be celibate and depriving them of love, romance and sex against their will.
2) The antisocial, socially disconnected culture and lack of social connection, which results in loneliness and isolation and makes it unnaturally hard to make friends.
3) The high rate of mental illness in America, and horrible mental health in America which brings out the worst in you, creating low self-esteem and mental disorders that naturally stem from a toxic, unhealthy, unnatural, antisocial, negative environment.

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Re: Changing your thoughts vs. Changing your location?

Post by Winston » November 24th, 2016, 12:30 pm

Here are some great points from Ethan_sg (my Singaporean freethinker friend who lives in China) about why the self-improvement industry is INCOMPLETE without Happier Abroad:

"@Winston the phrase 'self help' is too broadly used. By the broadest definition, everything we do in life would be a form of 'self help' such as even eating food and drinking water , or getting enough sleep to stay healthy - life is a perpetual process of self help by that very definition. So by that very broad definition, there is nothing to be debated, because unless an individual is masochistic or suicidal, each and everything he does in life can be considered a form of 'self help'

Now there is also nothing wrong with a man striving to improve his looks, health, fitness, confidence levels, language abilities, developing interest and hobbies etc. These I suppose may also rightfully be considered forms of 'self improvements' and there is pretty much nothing wrong with them.

Now where there is a problem with self help is when it gets in the way of achieving bigger and important goals. For example when you're living in an environment as toxic as the Anglosphere, your number one priority should be to get out of it, not to try to make the best of it and then end up staying on for the rest of your life. Both moving abroad or making the best of life in the Anglosphere can be seen as ways of 'self help' or 'self improvement' - so which should you choose?

Herein lies the weakness and flaws of a term as broad and superficial as 'self help/improvement' - there is no underlying philosophy or social theory in self help which will help you decide which to choose when you are faced with the choice of moving abroad from the Anglosphere or deciding to stay and make the best of it. Self help and self improvement has no answers for that because it is not a philosophy.

And this is where happier abroad comes in along with the emphasis on concretely comparing and analyzing the deep differences in social and love life in different countries and societies. Self help alone cannot give you direction on the biggest choices in life, you need deep analysis and experience to make the best choices. In the end the problems with self help is that the concept is on the one hand too broad, and on the other hand can get in the way of seeing the bigger picture and getting you to compromise on a bad situation by making the best of it instead of taking the more drastic decision to revolutionize your life and move abroad.

Self help can be indiscriminately applied to many different things in life but in the end what men need most of all is direction. Helping one's self achieve happiness is the end goal but without direction you won't know which way to go. That's where you need philosophy and comparative sociology in order to figure out the best way forward - there are a ton of things you could do to help yourself , many of which many be mutually incompatible or even contradictory. So which direction do you take in life? You need philosophy. Not just blind self help. That would be putting the cart before the horse. Blindly and indiscriminately applied self help can lead to the overall degradation of one's life in the long run.

If you take it to the extreme, self help means enabling yourself to do literally anything in life, so as long as you believe it, but that of course has already been debunked. If you take a more conservative definition of self help, then it is merely common sense. Yes improve yourself, cultivate interests, stay healthy etc, be confident yes . But all this should go without saying and is pretty meaningless from a philosophical standpoint because it provides no underlying direction.

This diluted commonsensical form of self help is just stating the obvious and seems more like a 'feel good' marketing gimmick by those with commercial interests in the so called self improvement industry. What we need most of all is philosophy to give is direction, not just blind and indiscriminate self help over anything and everything under the sun."
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Re: Changing your thoughts vs. Changing your location?

Post by xhatox » August 14th, 2017, 4:12 am

Winston wrote:My new video rant where I explain why LOCATION is the key to changing your life, not thoughts or attitudes.

Description:
My Happier Abroad movement is unique and revolutionary in two ways. First, it's the only self-help movement out there that focuses on changing your LOCATION rather than your thoughts and attitude like all other self-help movements advocate. Second, unlike all other critics of America, we focus on America's problems that are NOT related to government or economics, which more directly affect our lives such as:

1) The terrible dating scene for men that leaves many decent single men without romantic options for love or marriage, thus forcing many men to be celibate and depriving them of love, romance and sex against their will.
2) The antisocial, socially disconnected culture and lack of social connection, which results in loneliness and isolation and makes it unnaturally hard to make friends.
3) The high rate of mental illness in America, and horrible mental health in America which brings out the worst in you, creating low self-esteem and mental disorders that naturally stem from a toxic, unhealthy, unnatural, antisocial, negative environment.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkQStiHJBw8[/youtube]
I realize this is an older post, but I couldn't agree more with you Winston! I tried changing my thoughts for 3 years, but it didn't work for the reasons you gave about location being a problem.

Regards,
xhatox

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